• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:53
CEST 19:53
KST 02:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Has online-only competition during the pandemic changed your enjoyment of pro SC2? How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Syncronization issues and can't find games
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D BWCL Season 65 Announcement [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7980 users

INnoVation and soO survive 'Group of Death' in Code S - Pa…

Forum Index > SC2 General
69 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
February 12 2017 05:26 GMT
#41
On February 12 2017 03:52 Vutalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 20:49 Woosixion wrote:
I just wanna point out that soO scouting classic attempting to take a hidden expo really sealed the deal. Classic probably stays in the game had that not been scouted, And i can only guess that soO knew to do that so quickly because they were team mates for so long and classic probably tends to take hidden expos when he gets behind. Well done.

Cactus Valley reminds me of Frost which is a huge map and I died to hidden bases on that map like a thousand times. verecunda said above that this is soO's habit on big map so that makes sense. Also, he might do that so scout for hidden pylon that is used to warp in to harass while he moved out. Well-done indeed. I'm happy that soO advanced!


I was wondering when he took it why he took it there. Why not just take it at the southwest main instead of in the bottom middle like that? It wouldn't have been spotted.
Search "FTM" in SC2 | Latest Maps: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/528528-2-ftm-siegfried-station http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/525489-2-ftm-crimson-aftermath http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/524737-2-ftm-grime
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
February 12 2017 06:55 GMT
#42
Innovation too good, and soO played so well, upsets Dark, wow!!!!!
also sick ex-SKT vs ex-KT matches in the quarter finals
Faker is the GOAT!
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
February 12 2017 12:56 GMT
#43
Very sad for Classic. I think almost everybody agree that he really showed some special PvZ tricks and nice ideas yesterday. I really don't think soO has the energy and the top form of his best period in order to beat TY. Also he is a classical ZvPand ZvZ player, I don't remember any successful games against top terrans.

Looks like a TvT final with TY and Bogus, but we shall see. After Ro16, every player becomes different with different preparations and approach. I really hope for TY to get his first GSL title.
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 14:26:08
February 12 2017 14:14 GMT
#44
On February 12 2017 03:13 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2017 01:47 Lightrush wrote:
Thanks for the spoiler!


You're welcome to use spoiler free TL.



But I'm getting spoiled anyway


On February 12 2017 15:55 AzAlexZ wrote:
Innovation too good, and soO played so well, upsets Dark, wow!!!!!
also sick ex-SKT vs ex-KT matches in the quarter finals


I can't wait for this. TY and Stats are going to mop the floor with them. KT forever!
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2275 Posts
February 12 2017 15:11 GMT
#45
Thank goodness I've ticked the 'hide spoilers' box! ffs
Cogito, ergo Toss
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
February 12 2017 16:27 GMT
#46
TY - SoO
Stats - Innovation
This is already sooo good
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
February 12 2017 17:00 GMT
#47
On February 12 2017 08:25 Wallenberg wrote:
Sometimes I wished I'd spawn as a south korean, I mean, there are no girls like Gyuri in Sweden I tell you that... Wonderful hostess of GSL. Always happy.


Am I the only one who finds comments like this very very creepy?

Ah who am I kidding, this site already has an unhealthy obsession with K-pop idol culture. -_-
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
February 12 2017 17:11 GMT
#48
On February 13 2017 02:00 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2017 08:25 Wallenberg wrote:
Sometimes I wished I'd spawn as a south korean, I mean, there are no girls like Gyuri in Sweden I tell you that... Wonderful hostess of GSL. Always happy.


Am I the only one who finds comments like this very very creepy?

Ah who am I kidding, this site already has an unhealthy obsession with K-pop idol culture. -_-

don't know what's creepy about finding girls from a certain ethnicity particularly attractive. it's normal.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 17:27:43
February 12 2017 17:24 GMT
#49
don't know what's creepy about finding girls from a certain ethnicity particularly attractive. it's normal.


.......does 'yellow fever' not mean anything to you?


Am I the only one who finds comments like this very very creepy?


Not creepy so much as misguided. Koreans are people like everyone else. Imagining people on the other side of the world from you as fundamentally different just because they are exotic/fascinating to you is just (mostly) harmless dreaming.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 17:34:16
February 12 2017 17:31 GMT
#50
On February 13 2017 02:24 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
don't know what's creepy about finding girls from a certain ethnicity particularly attractive. it's normal.


.......does 'yellow fever' not mean anything to you?


Yes, racist obsession of white Americans.

I wonder what happened to KwarK...

On February 13 2017 02:24 pvsnp wrote:

Not creepy so much as misguided.


Sorry, being fetishized is most definitely creepy.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 17:46:29
February 12 2017 17:38 GMT
#51
Sorry, being fetishized is most definitely creepy.


But it's mostly born of ignorance. Isn't that something that should evoke pity instead of disgust?
Like Orientalism in general.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
February 12 2017 18:31 GMT
#52
im sure its reasonable to be disgusted by the fetishization of foreign cultures

scholars would say its our duty to be disgusted by it, others would just say gyuri is hot and leave it at that. i dont typically pity a guy who knows whta he likes, but the world is full of beautiful , interesting women so ultimately hes just doin himself dirty. if he was in KR he might fetishize US girls which is very common with my friends in mexico. enjoying ur posts pvsnp
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10365 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 19:54:58
February 12 2017 18:52 GMT
#53
Although in general people tend to seek genetically similar (but not too similar) mates, there is research showing that some people have a genetic inclination to seek people who are sufficiently different from themselves to guarantee a lack of overlap in MHCs (major histocompatibility complexes) and that is just the tip of the iceberg. "Opposites attract," white guy vs. Asian girl, can have a genetic component to it. In layman terms, this makes sense because pursuing genetic diversity in mate and therefore offspring greatly decreases the chance for many recessive traits to become pronounced.

I'm not denying that weebs and foreign k-pop fans might have an unhealthy obsession with another culture/race, just that science justifies it for certain cases. Just as people can be born gay, others can be born pre-programmed to seek an abnormal drive to seek genetic diversity in mates.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 12 2017 19:20 GMT
#54
This is not the thread for this.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 19:28:34
February 12 2017 19:27 GMT
#55
im sure its reasonable to be disgusted by the fetishization of foreign cultures

scholars would say its our duty to be disgusted by it, others would just say gyuri is hot and leave it at that. i dont typically pity a guy who knows whta he likes, but the world is full of beautiful , interesting women so ultimately hes just doin himself dirty. if he was in KR he might fetishize US girls which is very common with my friends in mexico.

Olli does not approve, so I won't continue.


enjoying ur posts pvsnp

Thanks!
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
February 12 2017 19:37 GMT
#56
Seriously guys there are plenty of places to shame someone for who/what they are attracted to, but not here.

These were the sickest matches I have seen in a while and they deserve to be discussed! I recall Arty saying he had never seen the build Classic started out on against Dark, so even though Dark scouted it he still lost. Can anyone talk about how that strategy worked and was different? Like what Dark was expecting when he scouted?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 12 2017 21:08 GMT
#57
On February 13 2017 04:20 Olli wrote:
This is not the thread for this.


Would you allow it if we talked about how attracted we are to Korean SC2 players?
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 04:00:33
February 13 2017 03:57 GMT
#58
On February 13 2017 04:37 zealotstim wrote:
Seriously guys there are plenty of places to shame someone for who/what they are attracted to, but not here.

These were the sickest matches I have seen in a while and they deserve to be discussed! I recall Arty saying he had never seen the build Classic started out on against Dark, so even though Dark scouted it he still lost. Can anyone talk about how that strategy worked and was different? Like what Dark was expecting when he scouted?


the early robotics classic used is really just uncommon. and his push was extremely delayed (Newkirk city) compared to the typical builds that use robotics. they usually do not have a third base so early, and they usually dont wait for like 4-5 immortals to push

i think when dark scouted his units/production he thought "fuck hes about to immortal push me, because i scouted this build hes doing, and thats what people typically do when you discover they have been chronoing immortals all early game instead of upgrading and buying splash/air units"

what clasic was thinking, "dark is going to get overlord speed and see this push and over prepare while i take my third. he will assume i am going to push immediately, because when this is scouted it can be countered by spire or x strategy. i will just wait for archon tech and go kill him, becuase he knows that i know that there is an expiration date on this strategy, and because i know that that he knows that i know that there is an expiration date on this strategy, i will make an educated bet and predict that he will make units and not a spire, fearing the immediate push and as a result, ultimately die to just "more" of the same stuff ive been making all game"

thats as best i can describe it, and spire might not be the best choice. but if dark played that game again, he would have tried to counter it much differently me thinks

ro32 and ro16 have had an immense amount of metagaming in them, really weird builds from all the races tbh
Saizuchi
Profile Joined July 2015
1 Post
February 13 2017 04:11 GMT
#59
Classic played so well but it seems soO really understands Classic's playstyle.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
February 13 2017 04:29 GMT
#60
Classic got so close. Using the voidray to take the queen agro while his oracles killed drones was super impressive. He jumped the gun and went allin on cactus valley instead of transitioning into templar tech, and that is why he lost.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 8m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 132
MindelVK 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1306
Hyuk 373
Rush 155
Dewaltoss 129
Zeus 88
Hm[arnc] 53
Pusan 48
IntoTheRainbow 11
Dota 2
Gorgc5305
Counter-Strike
fl0m1257
x6flipin585
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang091
Other Games
Grubby2515
Liquid`RaSZi1500
FrodaN1004
B2W.Neo473
ceh9401
mouzStarbuck383
KnowMe181
ArmadaUGS136
RotterdaM103
Mew2King85
QueenE70
Chillindude14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1448
StarCraft 2
WardiTV507
TaKeTV 174
Other Games
BasetradeTV41
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 12
• Azhi_Dahaki1
• Pr0nogo 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3346
League of Legends
• TFBlade1101
Other Games
• imaqtpie524
• Shiphtur136
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 8m
Replay Cast
6h 8m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
17h 8m
RotterdaM Event
22h 23m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
GSL
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-16
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.