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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 08 2017 19:28 GMT
#1
The first group of Code S' Ro16 was played on Wednesday and saw two favorites advance on the the final eight. (T)TY topped the group with a 2-0 TvT victory over (T)aLive and a closer 2-1 series against his former team-mate (P)Stats.
Unfortunately for aLive, he wasn't able to make his strong online form count in Code S.

The ex-KT Protoss redeemed himself rather easily, however, as he took the rematch of his opening set against (Z)ByuL 2-0. ByuL never found an answer to Stats' rock solid play, whether it was long macro games or decisive timings.





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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
February 08 2017 20:14 GMT
#2
aLive still doesn't have the key to offline success
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SwiftRH
Profile Joined August 2013
United States105 Posts
February 08 2017 20:56 GMT
#3
nooo rip mcaning alive gls champion prediction
Man MODE!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 08 2017 21:03 GMT
#4
This really does need the poll about Elentos vs. Ej_ too...
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Smu1
Profile Joined February 2017
2 Posts
February 08 2017 21:23 GMT
#5
This is a spoiler and not news
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
February 08 2017 21:31 GMT
#6
On February 09 2017 06:03 intotheheart wrote:
This really does need the poll about Elentos vs. Ej_ too...

lol, I wasn't there for lr this morning, but this statement makes me wish I had been
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africola
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany35 Posts
February 08 2017 21:41 GMT
#7
On February 09 2017 06:23 Smu1 wrote:
This is a spoiler and not news


THANK YOU!
those new spoiler articles really suck. you could choose the title in a more wise way in the future, maybe?! yes, there is spoiler free TL, but some people dont want to have cookies
Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
February 08 2017 21:51 GMT
#8
Bro Stats was on point today. Without a doubt.
I love LOveRH
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 08 2017 22:00 GMT
#9
Actually it is news.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 08 2017 22:53 GMT
#10
On February 09 2017 06:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 06:03 intotheheart wrote:
This really does need the poll about Elentos vs. Ej_ too...

lol, I wasn't there for lr this morning, but this statement makes me wish I had been

On February 08 2017 23:03 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2017 22:56 intotheheart wrote:
On February 08 2017 22:56 Elentos wrote:
Does anyone else think Artosis is just adding those compliments to TY to satisfy himself and Stats didn't actually say those?

Probably, but TY was also on KT for a while so he might actually believe it too.

We haven't discussed this in a while, and with GumBa effectively retiring I think we need a new champion of shitposting.
Poll: Who is the bigger LR Shitposter now?

Ej_ (15)
 
75%

Elentos (5)
 
25%

20 total votes

Your vote: Who is the bigger LR Shitposter now?

(Vote): Ej_
(Vote): Elentos






For anyone who missed it.

Also mod please put this into OP. It's important.

You missed out.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
February 08 2017 23:02 GMT
#11
On February 09 2017 07:53 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 06:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 09 2017 06:03 intotheheart wrote:
This really does need the poll about Elentos vs. Ej_ too...

lol, I wasn't there for lr this morning, but this statement makes me wish I had been

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2017 23:03 intotheheart wrote:
On February 08 2017 22:56 intotheheart wrote:
On February 08 2017 22:56 Elentos wrote:
Does anyone else think Artosis is just adding those compliments to TY to satisfy himself and Stats didn't actually say those?

Probably, but TY was also on KT for a while so he might actually believe it too.

We haven't discussed this in a while, and with GumBa effectively retiring I think we need a new champion of shitposting.
Poll: Who is the bigger LR Shitposter now?

Ej_ (15)
 
75%

Elentos (5)
 
25%

20 total votes

Your vote: Who is the bigger LR Shitposter now?

(Vote): Ej_
(Vote): Elentos






For anyone who missed it.

Also mod please put this into OP. It's important.

You missed out.

The thing is Elentos doesn't actually shitpost. He's the LR king no doubt, but Ej wins as our new shitposter.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-08 23:03:48
February 08 2017 23:03 GMT
#12
I don't know if he doesn't shitpost, man. We'd have to get the grand jury of shitposters to decide on that.
Poll: Should I make a blog for the grand jury signups?

Yes. (23)
 
85%

Definitely not. (4)
 
15%

27 total votes

Your vote: Should I make a blog for the grand jury signups?

(Vote): Yes.
(Vote): Definitely not.



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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 09 2017 00:13 GMT
#13
On February 09 2017 08:02 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 07:53 intotheheart wrote:
On February 09 2017 06:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 09 2017 06:03 intotheheart wrote:
This really does need the poll about Elentos vs. Ej_ too...

lol, I wasn't there for lr this morning, but this statement makes me wish I had been

On February 08 2017 23:03 intotheheart wrote:
On February 08 2017 22:56 intotheheart wrote:
On February 08 2017 22:56 Elentos wrote:
Does anyone else think Artosis is just adding those compliments to TY to satisfy himself and Stats didn't actually say those?

Probably, but TY was also on KT for a while so he might actually believe it too.

We haven't discussed this in a while, and with GumBa effectively retiring I think we need a new champion of shitposting.
Poll: Who is the bigger LR Shitposter now?

Ej_ (15)
 
75%

Elentos (5)
 
25%

20 total votes

Your vote: Who is the bigger LR Shitposter now?

(Vote): Ej_
(Vote): Elentos






For anyone who missed it.

Also mod please put this into OP. It's important.

You missed out.

The thing is Elentos doesn't actually shitpost. He's the LR king no doubt, but Ej wins as our new shitposter.


He's the king for sure. I wouldn't say he doesn't shitpost either. He just happens to actually be helpful sometimes.

Pretty sure the dude is straight up addicted to SC2.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 09 2017 00:33 GMT
#14
Yeah he definitely has more #passion than a lot of us, but passion and shitposting aren't mutually exclusive. Espeeeecially for LR threads.
kiss kiss fall in love
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 09 2017 04:23 GMT
#15
mah boys!
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
February 09 2017 05:03 GMT
#16
On February 09 2017 06:23 Smu1 wrote:
This is a spoiler and not news


Have to use link http://teamliquid.net/nospoiler
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 09 2017 08:29 GMT
#17
On February 09 2017 06:23 Smu1 wrote:
This is a spoiler and not news


This is a news website and we have a spoiler free option. Stop complaining.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Smu1
Profile Joined February 2017
2 Posts
February 09 2017 08:56 GMT
#18
On February 09 2017 17:29 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 06:23 Smu1 wrote:
This is a spoiler and not news


This is a news website and we have a spoiler free option. Stop complaining.


No wonders sc2 is dead, with that mentality from people

User was temp banned for this post.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 09 2017 09:10 GMT
#19
On February 09 2017 17:56 Smu1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 17:29 Olli wrote:
On February 09 2017 06:23 Smu1 wrote:
This is a spoiler and not news


This is a news website and we have a spoiler free option. Stop complaining.


No wonders sc2 is dead, with that mentality from people



People like Olli are reason why there is still a sc2 professionnal scene. Just be a little more thankful and stop act like a spoiled brat.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 09 2017 09:26 GMT
#20
On February 09 2017 17:56 Smu1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 17:29 Olli wrote:
On February 09 2017 06:23 Smu1 wrote:
This is a spoiler and not news


This is a news website and we have a spoiler free option. Stop complaining.


No wonders sc2 is dead, with that mentality from people


Thank you for your contribution to the SC2 scene.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
February 09 2017 11:09 GMT
#21
Ex-KT best KT!
don't wall off against random
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
February 09 2017 11:09 GMT
#22
No surprise there on the winners. They could go beyond the top 8.
AndreasHeideman
Profile Joined February 2017
Sweden30 Posts
February 09 2017 11:18 GMT
#23
GoGo TY !
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
February 09 2017 12:46 GMT
#24
Why is the mappool not showed on liquipedia? Does anyone actually know which maps are in it?
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 09 2017 14:26 GMT
#25
On February 09 2017 21:46 Cosmos wrote:
Why is the mappool not showed on liquipedia? Does anyone actually know which maps are in it?

They're here.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/519039-gsl-code-s-season-1-2017-ro16-group-a
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 09 2017 14:30 GMT
#26
TY a big favorite to win this season
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
February 09 2017 15:34 GMT
#27
On February 09 2017 23:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TY a big favorite to win this season

He pProbably plays Dark/INnoVation next round, so I'm kinda worried, but quietly confident in him this time
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
February 09 2017 21:03 GMT
#28
Why is "Hide Spoilers" button not working?
Thanks for the spoilers... :-\
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 09 2017 21:14 GMT
#29
On February 10 2017 00:34 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 23:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TY a big favorite to win this season

He pProbably plays Dark/INnoVation next round, so I'm kinda worried, but quietly confident in him this time


And then he would likely play herO in Ro4. And then Dark/Innovation/Maru in the finals.

So, he would probably have to beat all the best.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 09 2017 21:53 GMT
#30
On February 10 2017 06:03 Jenia6109 wrote:
Why is "Hide Spoilers" button not working?
Thanks for the spoilers... :-\


I think it only lasts 24 hours or something?
slit
Profile Joined March 2013
Spain212 Posts
February 10 2017 02:10 GMT
#31
On February 10 2017 06:53 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 06:03 Jenia6109 wrote:
Why is "Hide Spoilers" button not working?
Thanks for the spoilers... :-\


I think it only lasts 24 hours or something?


Yep, 24 hours as stated.
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
February 10 2017 02:33 GMT
#32
On February 10 2017 06:14 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 00:34 Sakat wrote:
On February 09 2017 23:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TY a big favorite to win this season

He pProbably plays Dark/INnoVation next round, so I'm kinda worried, but quietly confident in him this time


And then he would likely play herO in Ro4. And then Dark/Innovation/Maru in the finals.

So, he would probably have to beat all the best.


If he does not choke I think he has what it takes -- and it seems that recently he's better in keeping his head cool
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-10 03:54:57
February 10 2017 03:53 GMT
#33
If he does not choke I think he has what it takes -- and it seems that recently he's better in keeping his head cool


Not too sure about TY's planning tbh. He advanced in first, but he put Inno into Group B so that basically guarantees that he will have to play Inno/Dark in the Ro8, instead of Classic/soO.

He has a good shot against Inno/Dark of course, but they have just as good a shot against him.
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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
February 10 2017 11:58 GMT
#34
On February 10 2017 12:53 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
If he does not choke I think he has what it takes -- and it seems that recently he's better in keeping his head cool


Not too sure about TY's planning tbh. He advanced in first, but he put Inno into Group B so that basically guarantees that he will have to play Inno/Dark in the Ro8, instead of Classic/soO.

He has a good shot against Inno/Dark of course, but they have just as good a shot against him.


TY's plan is obvious as he said in the ceremony, he wanted to use InnoVation as a sniper, probably to eliminate Soo/Classic (he might have thought Dark will take first place). It shows that TY is confident abt his TvT against InnoVation.
jedi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
United States172 Posts
February 10 2017 14:26 GMT
#35
sooo...about that "Hide spoilers" checkmark...doesn't seem to hide very well
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 10 2017 14:36 GMT
#36
On February 10 2017 23:26 jedi1982 wrote:
sooo...about that "Hide spoilers" checkmark...doesn't seem to hide very well


It does, for 24 hours.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-10 16:29:59
February 10 2017 16:29 GMT
#37
On February 10 2017 23:36 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 23:26 jedi1982 wrote:
sooo...about that "Hide spoilers" checkmark...doesn't seem to hide very well


It does, for 24 hours.


Could you please explain what is the reasoning behind it?

Why not set the cookie to expire in e.g. 10 years? I think if someone wants to avoid spoilers and enables the setting, they expect to avoid spoilers in general, not just today. This kind of setting should be persistent.
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4945 Posts
February 10 2017 18:51 GMT
#38
The setting is persistent, only anything isn't considered a spoiler anymore after 24 hours
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Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
February 10 2017 19:13 GMT
#39
Ah, thanks. I did not understand that part
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
February 10 2017 20:09 GMT
#40
I don't understand this "24 hours" rule too.
I'm scared of visiting TL now
And i think i'm not only one...
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 10 2017 21:35 GMT
#41
TY's plan is obvious as he said in the ceremony, he wanted to use InnoVation as a sniper, probably to eliminate Soo/Classic (he might have thought Dark will take first place). It shows that TY is confident abt his TvT against InnoVation.


According to the translator, he said he wanted to use Inno as a sniper to eliminate Dark. Presumably because he doesn't want to face Dark later. He then said that out of Group B, he wanted to face soO the most. Presumably because he thinks soO is the weakest of the four. In his Group A interview he also said he drew up a Group B bracket and hoped Classic/soO would advance. Presumably because he doesn't want to face Inno/Dark.

All this evidence points to the idea that TY (wisely) is not super eager to square off against INnoVation or Dark. Because he has a relatively higher chance of losing (I'd say 50/50) compared to his chances against soO/Classic (I'd say 65-35).

But by placing Inno in Group B, all TY did was make it more likely that he's going to end up against Inno/Dark. Because those two are the clear favorites to advance, TY is likely going to have to face one of them in the Ro8. Whereas if he had left Ryung in Group B, Dark would have easily advanced in first and TY would probably face soO/Classic.

TY's logic seems to contradict his actions. Logically, he wants the easiest opponents possible. But his actions have only made it more likely that he faces the hardest opponents possible. Hence why I am not too sure about TY's planning, because his actions appear to be illogical for fulfilling his goals.
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Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
February 10 2017 22:04 GMT
#42
I love the spoiler-free mode, but 24 hours is a little too short. I also don't understand who really benefits from that time limit. If you don't mind spoilers you can turn that feature off, so it's really only hurting a small subset of people with no benefit to anyone else.
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
February 11 2017 08:45 GMT
#43
On February 11 2017 06:35 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
TY's plan is obvious as he said in the ceremony, he wanted to use InnoVation as a sniper, probably to eliminate Soo/Classic (he might have thought Dark will take first place). It shows that TY is confident abt his TvT against InnoVation.


According to the translator, he said he wanted to use Inno as a sniper to eliminate Dark. Presumably because he doesn't want to face Dark later. He then said that out of Group B, he wanted to face soO the most. Presumably because he thinks soO is the weakest of the four. In his Group A interview he also said he drew up a Group B bracket and hoped Classic/soO would advance. Presumably because he doesn't want to face Inno/Dark.

All this evidence points to the idea that TY (wisely) is not super eager to square off against INnoVation or Dark. Because he has a relatively higher chance of losing (I'd say 50/50) compared to his chances against soO/Classic (I'd say 65-35).

But by placing Inno in Group B, all TY did was make it more likely that he's going to end up against Inno/Dark. Because those two are the clear favorites to advance, TY is likely going to have to face one of them in the Ro8. Whereas if he had left Ryung in Group B, Dark would have easily advanced in first and TY would probably face soO/Classic.

TY's logic seems to contradict his actions. Logically, he wants the easiest opponents possible. But his actions have only made it more likely that he faces the hardest opponents possible. Hence why I am not too sure about TY's planning, because his actions appear to be illogical for fulfilling his goals.

Luckily for TY he is a fucking genius
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Yora
Profile Joined March 2013
United States35 Posts
February 11 2017 18:27 GMT
#44
On February 11 2017 05:09 Jenia6109 wrote:
I don't understand this "24 hours" rule too.
I'm scared of visiting TL now
And i think i'm not only one...


Same =x. I didn't realize it was a 24 hour limit until I saw the title of this thread on the front page.

I know it's been a somewhat frustrating issue for the staff and I respect their reasoning, and I'm probably an unusual case in the way I consume esports content. Generally I watch VODs of whatever game I'm in the mood for while I'm eating a meal or in the background while I'm working. Sometimes it takes a week or two to catch up on certain games if I haven't watched them for a while.

So personally I would like it if the hide spoiler option simply kept the spoilers hidden without a time limit, and I could just click the hidden links when I know I'm caught up on watching SC. As it is, I just won't visit this site when I know I'm not caught up.
Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
February 11 2017 22:31 GMT
#45
On February 12 2017 03:27 Yora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 05:09 Jenia6109 wrote:
I don't understand this "24 hours" rule too.
I'm scared of visiting TL now
And i think i'm not only one...


Same =x. I didn't realize it was a 24 hour limit until I saw the title of this thread on the front page.

I know it's been a somewhat frustrating issue for the staff and I respect their reasoning, and I'm probably an unusual case in the way I consume esports content. Generally I watch VODs of whatever game I'm in the mood for while I'm eating a meal or in the background while I'm working. Sometimes it takes a week or two to catch up on certain games if I haven't watched them for a while.

So personally I would like it if the hide spoiler option simply kept the spoilers hidden without a time limit, and I could just click the hidden links when I know I'm caught up on watching SC. As it is, I just won't visit this site when I know I'm not caught up.


I understand their position. If you go to a traditional sports news website you will probably be spoiled. I imagine this concession was made because of the nature of global esports. If I were a fan of traditional sports I would probably avoid those sites altogether and probably wish there was a spoiler feature.

I guess the difference here is that TL.net is my only source of community for esports. I have no friends that watch these games. No one to share the experience with. That definitely wouldn't be the case if I were a fan of American football and I would easily be able to avoid those sites without a second though. I come here for reasons other than just news. I rely on this community.

I think it's just odd to me that they make the concession to have a spoiler free mode and then also impose a 24 hour limit. In the end, it's my fault for forgetting how long it's been since the match aired, I won't blame TL for that. Usually it's not an issue. But if we have a spoiler-free mode that users can toggle on their own, it seems like a win-win to have no time-limit, especially since (I believe) spoilers are on by default.
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