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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 20:53:17
January 26 2017 20:46 GMT
#21
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/

Every forum has rules that restrict freedom of speech. This one has one against excessive balance whine, for instance.
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billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
January 26 2017 20:50 GMT
#22
even though i was sad to see Scarlett lose, it still was cool having people hyped for a GSL & having a foreigner compete.
i dont miss God but i sure miss Santa Claus
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
January 26 2017 21:15 GMT
#23
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

User was warned for this post


he just is the only player to win code s and ssl that is all yknow
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BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
January 26 2017 21:40 GMT
#24
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/


most of the mods and admins get mad in this site when someone talk about balance like if that word doesn't mean anything on the dictionary
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 26 2017 21:43 GMT
#25
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Well if you compare their achievements this might just be a slight exaggeration.
Zest fanboy.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 22:19:18
January 26 2017 22:18 GMT
#26
On January 27 2017 06:40 SC2BF3Love wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/


most of the mods and admins get mad in this site when someone talk about balance like if that word doesn't mean anything on the dictionary


Maybe people don't put enough effort in balance whining? Rather than "terran is OP" mods probably expect you to explain your choice in a post that makes logical sense. Don't confuse this with emotion though.
AVirtualGigolo
Profile Joined December 2016
12 Posts
January 26 2017 22:28 GMT
#27
#Byunstoppable!
Dungeontay
Profile Joined December 2015
126 Posts
January 26 2017 23:08 GMT
#28
already read it on expert's page. a shame, really. both were so close
Zzz
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 26 2017 23:53 GMT
#29
QQ... that was a painful loss for scarlett in the 2nd game
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
January 26 2017 23:56 GMT
#30
GG to all, Zerg is not weak atm it just takes a really high high high ability to pilot atm. Scarlet is a great player but she is not in the realms of Byul, SoO or Dark lets face it. In the final game v Alive - Alive really showed his prowess by skirting around creep, infiltrating her soft spots, diverting her attention and setting up that beautiful spread of marines whilst he dropped her Natural. Scarlet saw this attack coming but was slow to make her banes and got a very unfavourable initial engage because of it.

The real revelation here in the recent GSL games however, came from Stats bullying Byun. Stats' game on Whirlwind was probably the best (highest skill level) we have seen this year; perfect scouting, perfect vision, perfect reactions, perfect defense, perfect unit composition for the situation, perfect offense and execution. Made the presently T favored TvP 'match-up' look easy for P. I doubt he can repeat this level, but I could be wrong...
stefan16
Profile Joined June 2014
103 Posts
January 27 2017 00:30 GMT
#31
On January 27 2017 08:56 AxiomBlurr wrote:
infiltrating her soft spots


this


User was warned for this post
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
January 27 2017 00:35 GMT
#32
*insert one hunned emoji* Glad to see aLive and Classic performing well! Put Scarlett in her place :D Filthy Zerg
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 27 2017 00:48 GMT
#33
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Don't say that on TL, ya might get banned
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 27 2017 00:58 GMT
#34
Well, we should see both ByuN and Scarlett in Stage 2 IEM Qualifiers. Hopefully at the event itself too.
With any luck they can recover from this early elimination.
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Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 01:02:51
January 27 2017 01:00 GMT
#35
On January 27 2017 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Don't say that on TL, ya might get banned


nah, nobody gets banned for using silly hyperboles or sarcasm.

Anyway, a week with good games on GSL.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
January 27 2017 01:32 GMT
#36
When Scarlett lost that final game vs aLive I threw my headset in rage and salt like Avilo
User was warned for this post
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 27 2017 01:38 GMT
#37
On January 27 2017 10:00 Superbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Don't say that on TL, ya might get banned


nah, nobody gets banned for using silly hyperboles or sarcasm.

Anyway, a week with good games on GSL.


Nope never
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
January 27 2017 02:07 GMT
#38
Scarlett was absolutely dominant against muyungsik, but completely screwed up against alive. I was rooting for her but she missread a lot of situations.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2017 02:58 GMT
#39
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/

Your post was pretty dumb. Calling someone who's been in Code S since 2011 a "patch terran" is either ignorance or just blatant disrespect. I can understand being mad about current state of the game (or more likely that your favored player lost) but you can talk about that in a more constructive way.

TL has always had a policy against balance whine. Keeps the site from becoming a shitty cesspool of memes and whining.
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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 27 2017 04:47 GMT
#40
On January 27 2017 11:07 JackONeill wrote:
Scarlett was absolutely dominant against muyungsik, but completely screwed up against alive. I was rooting for her but she missread a lot of situations.


This is true, but I kinda feel like Scarlett plays better against the ropes (i.e. the first game vs. alive, and that really old bomber game with the bane bomb at the end...). She kinda goes into overdrive when you think she's going to lose, but alas, it wasn't enough
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