• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:44
CET 22:44
KST 06:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book9Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info7herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker1PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1530 users

Scarlett and ByuN eliminated from Code S; Stats, Ryung, Cl…

Forum Index > SC2 General
79 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 20:53:17
January 26 2017 20:46 GMT
#21
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/

Every forum has rules that restrict freedom of speech. This one has one against excessive balance whine, for instance.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
January 26 2017 20:50 GMT
#22
even though i was sad to see Scarlett lose, it still was cool having people hyped for a GSL & having a foreigner compete.
i dont miss God but i sure miss Santa Claus
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
January 26 2017 21:15 GMT
#23
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

User was warned for this post


he just is the only player to win code s and ssl that is all yknow
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
January 26 2017 21:40 GMT
#24
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/


most of the mods and admins get mad in this site when someone talk about balance like if that word doesn't mean anything on the dictionary
How may help u?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 26 2017 21:43 GMT
#25
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Well if you compare their achievements this might just be a slight exaggeration.
Zest fanboy.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 22:19:18
January 26 2017 22:18 GMT
#26
On January 27 2017 06:40 SC2BF3Love wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/


most of the mods and admins get mad in this site when someone talk about balance like if that word doesn't mean anything on the dictionary


Maybe people don't put enough effort in balance whining? Rather than "terran is OP" mods probably expect you to explain your choice in a post that makes logical sense. Don't confuse this with emotion though.
AVirtualGigolo
Profile Joined December 2016
12 Posts
January 26 2017 22:28 GMT
#27
#Byunstoppable!
Dungeontay
Profile Joined December 2015
126 Posts
January 26 2017 23:08 GMT
#28
already read it on expert's page. a shame, really. both were so close
Zzz
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 26 2017 23:53 GMT
#29
QQ... that was a painful loss for scarlett in the 2nd game
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
January 26 2017 23:56 GMT
#30
GG to all, Zerg is not weak atm it just takes a really high high high ability to pilot atm. Scarlet is a great player but she is not in the realms of Byul, SoO or Dark lets face it. In the final game v Alive - Alive really showed his prowess by skirting around creep, infiltrating her soft spots, diverting her attention and setting up that beautiful spread of marines whilst he dropped her Natural. Scarlet saw this attack coming but was slow to make her banes and got a very unfavourable initial engage because of it.

The real revelation here in the recent GSL games however, came from Stats bullying Byun. Stats' game on Whirlwind was probably the best (highest skill level) we have seen this year; perfect scouting, perfect vision, perfect reactions, perfect defense, perfect unit composition for the situation, perfect offense and execution. Made the presently T favored TvP 'match-up' look easy for P. I doubt he can repeat this level, but I could be wrong...
stefan16
Profile Joined June 2014
103 Posts
January 27 2017 00:30 GMT
#31
On January 27 2017 08:56 AxiomBlurr wrote:
infiltrating her soft spots


this


User was warned for this post
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
January 27 2017 00:35 GMT
#32
*insert one hunned emoji* Glad to see aLive and Classic performing well! Put Scarlett in her place :D Filthy Zerg
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 27 2017 00:48 GMT
#33
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Don't say that on TL, ya might get banned
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 27 2017 00:58 GMT
#34
Well, we should see both ByuN and Scarlett in Stage 2 IEM Qualifiers. Hopefully at the event itself too.
With any luck they can recover from this early elimination.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 01:02:51
January 27 2017 01:00 GMT
#35
On January 27 2017 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Don't say that on TL, ya might get banned


nah, nobody gets banned for using silly hyperboles or sarcasm.

Anyway, a week with good games on GSL.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
January 27 2017 01:32 GMT
#36
When Scarlett lost that final game vs aLive I threw my headset in rage and salt like Avilo
User was warned for this post
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 27 2017 01:38 GMT
#37
On January 27 2017 10:00 Superbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 09:48 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 27 2017 05:46 Paljas wrote:
alive is literally 10 times the player scarlett is, so no suprise here


Don't say that on TL, ya might get banned


nah, nobody gets banned for using silly hyperboles or sarcasm.

Anyway, a week with good games on GSL.


Nope never
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
January 27 2017 02:07 GMT
#38
Scarlett was absolutely dominant against muyungsik, but completely screwed up against alive. I was rooting for her but she missread a lot of situations.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2017 02:58 GMT
#39
On January 27 2017 05:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On January 27 2017 04:10 TentativePanda wrote:
Scarlett lost to a patch Terran. That is all

EDIT: And a player who is very good but made even better with PvZ imbalance.

Not sure if you are sarcastic about balance or about foreigners.

Sad for ByuN and Scarlett, cool for Ryung and aLive tho, their happiness depended on the sadness of fan favorites tho :/.


There was zero sarcasm there. Both Terran and Protoss are dominant vZ in the current meta. It's very obvious while playing that zerg is very weak currently. This problem is made even more obvious by recent tournament results.

Also, I find it quite ridiculous that I was warned for my OP. I guess freedom of speech isn't something I have here :/

Your post was pretty dumb. Calling someone who's been in Code S since 2011 a "patch terran" is either ignorance or just blatant disrespect. I can understand being mad about current state of the game (or more likely that your favored player lost) but you can talk about that in a more constructive way.

TL has always had a policy against balance whine. Keeps the site from becoming a shitty cesspool of memes and whining.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 27 2017 04:47 GMT
#40
On January 27 2017 11:07 JackONeill wrote:
Scarlett was absolutely dominant against muyungsik, but completely screwed up against alive. I was rooting for her but she missread a lot of situations.


This is true, but I kinda feel like Scarlett plays better against the ropes (i.e. the first game vs. alive, and that really old bomber game with the bane bomb at the end...). She kinda goes into overdrive when you think she's going to lose, but alas, it wasn't enough
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#39
RotterdaM1037
TKL 454
IndyStarCraft 325
SteadfastSC256
EnkiAlexander 48
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1037
TKL 454
IndyStarCraft 325
SteadfastSC 256
PiGStarcraft173
MaxPax 155
elazer 60
ForJumy 22
Temp0 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 460
EffOrt 386
Hyuk 191
ggaemo 101
hero 72
Shuttle 20
soO 17
Dota 2
syndereN133
League of Legends
C9.Mang0154
Counter-Strike
fl0m2064
Foxcn233
Other Games
summit1g5602
Grubby4559
FrodaN2157
Beastyqt984
Liquid`Hasu221
ArmadaUGS199
ToD95
Mew2King82
Trikslyr78
ROOTCatZ67
ZombieGrub37
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 23
• davetesta15
• mYiSmile110
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 31
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2180
League of Legends
• TFBlade1688
• Stunt393
Other Games
• imaqtpie2226
• Shiphtur333
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 17m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 17m
LiuLi Cup
13h 17m
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
LiuLi Cup
1d 13h
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.