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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
![]() Original Source Tough run for some of the favorites. EDIT: ![]() ![]() | ||
Nebuchad
Switzerland12054 Posts
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Elentos
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Also it only took like 8 tournaments to have Hydra and Neeb on different sides of the bracket. | ||
SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
On August 04 2016 02:18 Elentos wrote: Showtime vs Heromarine RIP Germany Also it only took like 8 tournaments to have Hydra and Neeb on different sides of the bracket. To bad Hydra will die to Welmu :D | ||
corydoras
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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Durnuu
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On August 04 2016 02:32 Durnuu wrote: Snute vs TRUE ![]() Yeah, that is really unfortunate. ![]() | ||
BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On August 04 2016 02:51 BaneRiders wrote: Possible re-match UThermal vs Need already in the second round... I mean its not neeb hydra, we can't have it all If Polt shows the same level he had in the last months this is a great bracket for The Bergman | ||
SiorasSC
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On August 04 2016 02:52 ArtyK wrote: Show nested quote + On August 04 2016 02:51 BaneRiders wrote: Possible re-match UThermal vs Need already in the second round... I mean its not neeb hydra, we can't have it all If Polt shows the same level he had in the last months this is a great bracket for The Bergman Yeah, may the sortof be with him. ![]() | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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[16thSq] Kuro
1213 Posts
Yeah, it's silly for such an important tournament to be single elimination | ||
ejozl
Denmark3340 Posts
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WhosQuany
Germany257 Posts
On August 04 2016 02:18 Elentos wrote: Showtime vs Heromarine RIP Germany Also it only took like 8 tournaments to have Hydra and Neeb on different sides of the bracket. RIP Germany so sad | ||
showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:05 ejozl wrote: Shadown? ![]() | ||
Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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Duckman
United States158 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:10 Solar424 wrote: Scarlett vs Nerchio round 2 again rofl I think you mean Semper vs Scarlett in Round 2 hype | ||
VengefulTree
Canada637 Posts
On August 04 2016 02:52 ArtyK wrote: Show nested quote + On August 04 2016 02:51 BaneRiders wrote: Possible re-match UThermal vs Need already in the second round... I mean its not neeb hydra, we can't have it all If Polt shows the same level he had in the last months this is a great bracket for The Bergman Sorry I've been out of loop, you mean Polt has been playing sub-par recently? Also, seems like a bad bracket for Drogo ![]() | ||
Soke
United States790 Posts
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:13 VengefulTree wrote: Show nested quote + On August 04 2016 02:52 ArtyK wrote: On August 04 2016 02:51 BaneRiders wrote: Possible re-match UThermal vs Need already in the second round... I mean its not neeb hydra, we can't have it all If Polt shows the same level he had in the last months this is a great bracket for The Bergman Sorry I've been out of loop, you mean Polt has been playing sub-par recently? Also, seems like a bad bracket for Drogo ![]() Polt basically won wcs winter, but then lost his cm storm jacket, the rest is history... And drogo didnt do too good last wcs against bunny first round yeah :/ | ||
Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I think you mean Semper vs Scarlett in Round 2 hype If Semper beats Nerchio then no Terran gets to whine about Ultras ever again. | ||
Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
Reignite tori perkele. | ||
TheDougler
Canada8302 Posts
(Okay that's a slight exaggeration, sortOf and Elazer are pretty good, but that top right bracket is pretty soft compared to the rest of the tournament). On August 04 2016 03:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I think you mean Semper vs Scarlett in Round 2 hype Hell yeah buddy. | ||
Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
and ridiculous bracket on bottom left part bottom right too i guess | ||
BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:13 VengefulTree wrote: Show nested quote + On August 04 2016 02:52 ArtyK wrote: On August 04 2016 02:51 BaneRiders wrote: Possible re-match UThermal vs Need already in the second round... I mean its not neeb hydra, we can't have it all If Polt shows the same level he had in the last months this is a great bracket for The Bergman Sorry I've been out of loop, you mean Polt has been playing sub-par recently? Also, seems like a bad bracket for Drogo ![]() I think both Polt and Drogo have been pretty cold lately | ||
HsDLTitich
Italy830 Posts
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rotta
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
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b0ub0u
Canada445 Posts
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
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lastride
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:28 rotta wrote: Welmu - Hydra ;____; I just reeeaaaally hope that Welmu is willing to play non-standard builds among his regular ones..Really wanna see him show some good games for old times sake ^^ | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On August 04 2016 04:27 opisska wrote: What are the rules of the bracket, is it completely random, completely rigged, or something inbetween? Idk about now but the way they did it for winter was : 1 batch of 8 players seeded according to wcs rankings in 2015 1 batch of 8 players seeded according to wcs 2016 1 batch of the other 16 Then they match those 16 randomly with the other 8 and 8 I'd be surprised if they still use the 2015 rankings this time though, but just an fyi | ||
Elentos
55465 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:17 BaneRiders wrote: Show nested quote + On August 04 2016 03:13 VengefulTree wrote: On August 04 2016 02:52 ArtyK wrote: On August 04 2016 02:51 BaneRiders wrote: Possible re-match UThermal vs Need already in the second round... I mean its not neeb hydra, we can't have it all If Polt shows the same level he had in the last months this is a great bracket for The Bergman Sorry I've been out of loop, you mean Polt has been playing sub-par recently? Also, seems like a bad bracket for Drogo ![]() I think both Polt and Drogo have been pretty cold lately Polt had some good online runs very recently though. | ||
Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On August 04 2016 04:29 ArtyK wrote: Show nested quote + On August 04 2016 04:27 opisska wrote: What are the rules of the bracket, is it completely random, completely rigged, or something inbetween? Idk about now but the way they did it for winter was : 1 batch of 8 players seeded according to wcs rankings in 2015 1 batch of 8 players seeded according to wcs 2016 1 batch of the other 16 Then they match those 16 randomly with the other 8 and 8 I'd be surprised if they still use the 2015 rankings this time though, but just an fyi The top player of each quadrant look like the 1-4 seeds and their opponents are all newcomers (this year at least) I think, so there's probably some seeding involved. | ||
Sharkken
Jordan141 Posts
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Symons7
United States25 Posts
On August 04 2016 04:38 Thax wrote: Show nested quote + On August 04 2016 04:29 ArtyK wrote: On August 04 2016 04:27 opisska wrote: What are the rules of the bracket, is it completely random, completely rigged, or something inbetween? Idk about now but the way they did it for winter was : 1 batch of 8 players seeded according to wcs rankings in 2015 1 batch of 8 players seeded according to wcs 2016 1 batch of the other 16 Then they match those 16 randomly with the other 8 and 8 I'd be surprised if they still use the 2015 rankings this time though, but just an fyi The top player of each quadrant look like the 1-4 seeds and their opponents are all newcomers (this year at least) I think, so there's probably some seeding involved. Obviously it's based on WCS points. There're 6 players without any points, so they're facing No.1-No.6 (randomly maybe). The 7th is Elazer, he's facing XY who qualified with lowest points (175). Violet is 8th, and facing Kalazhur who is second lowest (240). You can continue to map the rest players easily. For Nerchio, if he could beat Violet in IEM Shanghai then he can surpass Polt and be in a good position for this. But he failed, so he's still No.3 and have to be in the same quad with Neeb (No.6). Also in second round he has to face winner of No.14 and No.19 (Puck/Scarlett), consider Scarlett's HSC performance and Nerchio's ZvZ is his worst match-up this may not be that easy like their match in Spring Circuit. So that's all bad consequences of not beating Violet in IEM Shanghai. For Neeb it's the same, if he could win IEM shanghai he can be in No.5 which should be a slightly better quad than he has now, especially consider he's not fear of ShowTime (just 3-0'd). So now we can only see Polt continue lay on his success from Winter Circuit and get relatively quite easy to at least ro8. Though his recent Leifeng cup run make a little bit come back sign for him. All WCS events uses this seeding system, for example IEM Shanghai with Polt out Hydra is No.4 and Neeb is No.5 so you're sure to see Hydra vs Neeb in second round. (Except the open tournaments like DH Valencia) Don't know if most people like this seeding system, but I think it's at least better than pure random. And, there're always amazing things happen, especially on Circuit events. Still remember Strange almost take down Polt? And the miracle run by ShowTime (at least at that time). So hopefully there're some new kings or even 0 point players can bring something amazing. | ||
B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Artur, you got 10 days you fix your ZvZ | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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CynicalDeath
Italy3286 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:02 [16thSq] Kuro wrote: https://twitter.com/KarlJayG/status/760894052602486784 Yeah, it's silly for such an important tournament to be single elimination ...regarding EnDerr not attending: are nearly two months really not enough time to get a visa for a tournament in Canada for someone living in the Philippines? ![]() | ||
Penev
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On August 04 2016 06:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: My predictions ![]() You misspelled "Neeb gets second!" | ||
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:16 Koivusto wrote: haha when was the last time I saw two of our finns in a tournament. No pressure Serral and Welmu, I will be cheering what ever comes <3 Reignite tori perkele. A bit over a month ago in HSC. But yeah good luck the Finn bros. | ||
Executer08
Germany163 Posts
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SlammerIV
United States526 Posts
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IArako
Germany195 Posts
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Kafka777
361 Posts
Obviously it's based on WCS points. There're 6 players without any points, so they're facing No.1-No.6 (randomly maybe). No, actually the only person without points is True, who should be playing Showtime in the first round. Generally, seeds/matchups are based on WCS points with a few strange exceptions. | ||
evolsiefil
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
On August 04 2016 09:24 evolsiefil wrote: will we ever get a global event? these low level tournaments are really starting to drive me away from sc2. There are two currently running in korea, you might want to check those out. One's even being played 8hs from this post! | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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warlocke
97 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
On August 04 2016 11:54 Inflicted wrote: MaSa/viOLet (#8/#9) & Elazer/PtitDrogo (#7/#10) brackets are gonna be really important for Blizzcon You guys all forget that the winner of this tournament qualifies for blizzcon so if TRUE/Serral/MarineLorD were to somehow win it will change everything :D | ||
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
ShowTimE 3-1 HeRoMaRinE Cham 0-3/3-1 MarineLorD (coinflip) viOLet 3-1 Kelazhur MaSa 3-2 MajOr Snute 3-2 TRUE Harstem 2-3 iaguz Hydra 3-2 Welmu Has 3-1 MaNa Polt 3-2 ShaDoWn SortOf 3-1 TooDming Elazer 3-2 XY again for shits and giggles PtitDrogo 1-3 Bunny Nerchio 3-0 Semper puCK 2-3 Scarlett Neeb 3-0 PiLiPiLi uThermal 3-1 Serral these are more personal and less analytic so yolo | ||
Symons7
United States25 Posts
On August 04 2016 09:14 Kafka777 wrote: Show nested quote + Obviously it's based on WCS points. There're 6 players without any points, so they're facing No.1-No.6 (randomly maybe). No, actually the only person without points is True, who should be playing Showtime in the first round. Generally, seeds/matchups are based on WCS points with a few strange exceptions. Looks like I didn't open the "rest" part in WCS points page so missed some players actually do have some points. I checked again and here's the results: 1. ShoWTimE - 4235 2. Polt - 4170 3. Nerchio - 4100 4. Snute - 3405 5. Hydra - 3135 6. Neeb - 3050 7. Elazer - 2310 8. viOLet - 2310 9. MaSa - 2055 10. PtitDrogo - 1945 11. uThermal - 1780 12. Has - 1350 13. Harstem - 1315 14. puCK - 1045 15. SortOf - 1015 16. Cham - 760 17. MarineLorD - 715 18. TooDming - 690 19. Scarlett - 630 20. iaguz - 490 21. MaNa - 360 22. Serral - 330 23. Bunny - 330 24. MajOr - 250 25. Kelazhur - 240 26. XY - 185 27. PiLiPiLi - 90 28. Welmu - 45 29. Semper - 30 30. ShaDoWn - 15 31. HeRoMaRinE - 15 32. TRUE - 0 Based on this list, I think the the only reasonable explanation is that they somehow treat TRUE's WCS point as something between 30 to 45 instead of 0. So, TRUE is actually placed at the 29th position which faces Snute. And all other players matches the seeding. Maybe someone from blizzard/dreamhack can explain the details why TRUE has some points between 30 to 45. This is not important to me (or anyone who just watch and enjoy the games) but it's actually very important to those players, especially Snute - he should get Semper according to the WCS points but he actually got TRUE, which is quite different. Hope someone can provide an answer. | ||
Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On August 04 2016 09:24 evolsiefil wrote: will we ever get a global event? these low level tournaments are really starting to drive me away from sc2. Bye. | ||
Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On August 04 2016 09:24 evolsiefil wrote: will we ever get a global event? these low level tournaments are really starting to drive me away from sc2. Nope, Blizzard decided that Koreans shouldn't be allowed to play in international events. Even though literally the rest of the world can. Social justice Blizzard! | ||
Kafka777
361 Posts
Looks like I didn't open the "rest" part in WCS points page so missed some players actually do have some points. I checked again and here's the results: Just one more detail. You also missed the points of Major and Marinelord that have been removed - but still are used for seeding. Meaning Marinelord has 1060 and Major has 485 points giving them respectively seeds 14 and 20. Anyway the rest is ok and this will not change much. | ||
True_Spike
Poland3415 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:02 [16thSq] Kuro wrote: https://twitter.com/KarlJayG/status/760894052602486784 Yeah, it's silly for such an important tournament to be single elimination Agreed. | ||
SeriousLus
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On August 05 2016 03:24 SeriousLus wrote: snute true.. that poor fucker has no luck at all ![]() Well, I dunno, True has hardly tried to qualify for anything else up until now, so it is a bit harsh to say that he has no luck at all just because he has to face Snute in his first appearance. ![]() | ||
Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
That Harstem vs Uthermal finals potential though | ||
phodacbiet
United States1739 Posts
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
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Autumn22
26 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On August 05 2016 06:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Top left corner is the easiest by far That Harstem vs Uthermal finals potential though #yearofharstem | ||
thickertom
China612 Posts
Just rumor! ![]() Who will replace him? Huk? | ||
rikapi
United States63 Posts
On August 04 2016 13:35 Symons7 wrote: Maybe someone from blizzard/dreamhack can explain the details why TRUE has some points between 30 to 45. They're probably taking into consideration that TRUE had accumulated 300 WCS KR points this year (100 from GSL S1 Code A, 200 from GSL S2 Code S spot which he forfeited when switching to Circuit) in some form. At least, that's my guess. | ||
showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On August 05 2016 11:02 thickertom wrote: Rumor! Just rumor! ![]() Who will replace him? Huk? More likely the Chinese player who came 3-4 in the qualifer with the highest amount of WCS points. ![]() | ||
thickertom
China612 Posts
On August 05 2016 17:45 showstealer1829 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2016 11:02 thickertom wrote: Rumor! Just rumor! ![]() Who will replace him? Huk? More likely the Chinese player who came 3-4 in the qualifer with the highest amount of WCS points. ![]() DreamHack xxxx Mainland Chinese players truly. Passport issues are all that she likes to use. Therefore, no Mainland Chinese players are allowed to join in this NA Server Qualifier. | ||
catabowl
United States815 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On August 05 2016 21:22 catabowl wrote: Good draw for Polt! That's what we thought about strange... | ||
LtCalley
United States244 Posts
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thickertom
China612 Posts
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babobbyj
636 Posts
On August 04 2016 03:02 [16thSq] Kuro wrote: https://twitter.com/KarlJayG/status/760894052602486784 Yeah, it's silly for such an important tournament to be single elimination What does that have to do with visa issues? wtf | ||
Kafka777
361 Posts
What does that have to do with visa issues? wtf It takes time to apply for Visa and process a Visa. Depending on country etc it may take a month or even 3 months or even longer vide True for ex. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
On August 04 2016 05:09 B-royal wrote: Where's avilo? he decided to boycott after finding out David Kim will be there. No one will be able to maphack or stream snipe at a live event so Avilo certainly would've easily won this event, .. o well maybe next season! | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On August 10 2016 10:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote: he decided to boycott after finding out David Kim will be there. No one will be able to maphack or stream snipe at a live event so Avilo certainly would've easily won this event, .. o well maybe next season! https://twitter.com/StarCraft/status/763115955060772864 Thank god he has a sword in case avilo finds him thouhg | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
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Kafka777
361 Posts
http://open.dreamhack.se/news/403-wcs-summer-circuit-championship-schedule.html | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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CynicalDeath
Italy3286 Posts
On August 10 2016 23:00 Kafka777 wrote: XY officially replaced by iAsonu. http://open.dreamhack.se/news/403-wcs-summer-circuit-championship-schedule.html ...it would be nice to understand why iAsonu, since he was not the next one in the Chinese Qualifer/Regional Challenger... | ||
geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
On August 10 2016 23:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: May end up having to have more last minute replacements https://twitter.com/InvasionHarstem/status/763374920495665152 Today is only Wednesday in Montreal. Still lots of time to book a last minute flight. | ||
Kafka777
361 Posts
...it would be nice to understand why iAsonu, since he was not the next one in the Chinese Qualifer/Regional Challenger... Since he was 5-8 placed in the qualifier its hard to say. Most likely he was the only one who had passport/visa issues resolved. Then again well, errr... maybe he was selected as he has the best chance in the match-up. | ||
SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
On August 11 2016 00:23 Kafka777 wrote: Show nested quote + ...it would be nice to understand why iAsonu, since he was not the next one in the Chinese Qualifer/Regional Challenger... Since he was 5-8 placed in the qualifier its hard to say. Most likely he was the only one who had passport/visa issues resolved. Then again well, errr... maybe he was selected as he has the best chance in the match-up. iAsonu was in canada last year for wcs s2 so i guess it was alot easier to get him a visa? | ||
Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On August 10 2016 23:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: May end up having to have more last minute replacements https://twitter.com/InvasionHarstem/status/763374920495665152 Operation "NA #1" is now in full effect ![]() ![]() | ||
BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On August 11 2016 01:11 Solar424 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2016 23:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: May end up having to have more last minute replacements https://twitter.com/InvasionHarstem/status/763374920495665152 Operation "NA #1" is now in full effect ![]() ![]() LMAO! Sortof and the rest will just have to play from home then: "...and in the blue corner, not wearing blue trunks, weighing in at absolutely nothing, we have the Bergman, the Mechanics, none other than SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFF... ...playing from an internet cafe somewhere in Amsterdam or so we are told..." | ||
RedAlice
51 Posts
On August 11 2016 00:55 SNSeigifried wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 00:23 Kafka777 wrote: ...it would be nice to understand why iAsonu, since he was not the next one in the Chinese Qualifer/Regional Challenger... Since he was 5-8 placed in the qualifier its hard to say. Most likely he was the only one who had passport/visa issues resolved. Then again well, errr... maybe he was selected as he has the best chance in the match-up. iAsonu was in canada last year for wcs s2 so i guess it was alot easier to get him a visa? Also Copa international will be Cyan's first experience abroad he barely had time to get his passport. Also he and MacSed were both 3rd. | ||
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
On August 10 2016 23:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: May end up having to have more last minute replacements https://twitter.com/InvasionHarstem/status/763374920495665152 i have experience with this | ||
Topher_Doll
United States76 Posts
On August 10 2016 23:25 CynicalDeath wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2016 23:00 Kafka777 wrote: XY officially replaced by iAsonu. http://open.dreamhack.se/news/403-wcs-summer-circuit-championship-schedule.html ...it would be nice to understand why iAsonu, since he was not the next one in the Chinese Qualifer/Regional Challenger... Same reason uThermal got to play in IEM Shanghai, he was available. On short notice it's entirely about who is free AND next in line. | ||
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