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dankobanana
Profile Joined February 2016
Croatia237 Posts
February 15 2016 09:01 GMT
#141
Good luck in the future HerO! I will always root for you.

btw does anyone else think MVP HerO would be great? they only have 1 toss
Battle is waged in the name of the many. The brave, who generation after generation choose the mantle of - Dark Templar!
realityyy
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany50 Posts
February 15 2016 09:24 GMT
#142
Another step on Blizzard's quest to kill professional Starcraft II.
Korakys
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
New Zealand272 Posts
February 15 2016 09:42 GMT
#143
On February 15 2016 17:59 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Still, there are a couple of independent events, such as HSC. It`s always been a huge problem for Korea to not having a functional tournament scene, apart from GSL/Proleague.

I wonder, is not Proleague bigger and more lucrative than all non-WCS tournaments put together? You don't get big prize money, but you do get a stable environment, coaching and steady salary (usually).
Swing away sOs, swing away.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 15 2016 09:49 GMT
#144
On February 15 2016 17:59 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Still, there are a couple of independent events, such as HSC. It`s always been a huge problem for Korea to not having a functional tournament scene, apart from GSL/Proleague.

Since most of the Korean players were traveling abroad(in the beginning) there was nothing to create at the first place. Also since there's PL you don't have a big incentive to start any weekend tournament, because players are preparing for their PL. That's the problem with KeSPA players not traveling abroad, with few exceptions like herO. Well, now there are no exceptions.

So if you are out of KeSPA, you are fucked. Say hello to Parting, HerO and others!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 10:25:55
February 15 2016 10:23 GMT
#145
Well, but then Kespa is to blame even more for their super strict rules about re-joining pro-teams than Blizz for their changes in WCS. And in the case of hero, it`s highly likely that he will simply join MVP anyways. Simply put, by playing proleague for another team, thus not being able to stream and being unable to travel to events in the foreigner sphere, he had very little value for TL. In addition to that, TL had an already big roster and they added Vortix.
Aber
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden332 Posts
February 15 2016 14:21 GMT
#146
this is the worst news i´ve heared since i started getting involved with sc2 in the beginning of WoL... shit, this makes me sad
Trying is the first step towards failure
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
February 15 2016 18:20 GMT
#147
atleast he will still play sc2, best of luck hero
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
February 15 2016 21:23 GMT
#148
Damn Still I know HerO will do well, gl!
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
February 16 2016 00:21 GMT
#149


Bye HerO, always a fan
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
February 16 2016 01:02 GMT
#150
This really hurts my heart. So much so, I will choose to ignore it for now, seeing as this is just too much pain for me to bare
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 16 2016 02:53 GMT
#151
HerO without the Liquid? Haha, ya right. I mean, nice try, but you don't lose a tag you held for 5 years that easily, especially over something as silly as a contract.

Liquid`HerO for WCS champion!
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
February 16 2016 03:03 GMT
#152
ohh boy, thought there were news about Parting at first, anyway gl hero
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 16 2016 14:36 GMT
#153
HerO was the only player I followed back in WOL and early HOTS. It was incredible to watch him mature and grow as a gamer and as a person. He was genuine, humble, and passionate about the game and his fans. It's sad to see him part ways with Liquid. It's sad to see the state of SC2 now compared to before.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
February 16 2016 15:22 GMT
#154
Fuck you, Blizzard.

Good luck HerO. So many great memories. Thanks to TL as well.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1835 Posts
February 16 2016 16:47 GMT
#155
gj blizz, pls more of these good wcs changes that benefit the scene and the community.
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1023 Posts
February 16 2016 17:02 GMT
#156
We'll miss you on liquid HerO! =( GL and will be cheering for you wherever you go
todespolka
Profile Joined November 2012
221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 17:16:59
February 16 2016 17:16 GMT
#157
On February 15 2016 06:35 mammuluk wrote:
I'm european, so this consideration could seem a bad one, but once again: this new WCS system is UNFAIR.
goodbye HerO


Maybe it doesn't suit HerO but it isn't unfair! We need a own strong local scene just as korea. There is no way to practise for a tournament if you can't play against the same player on ladder. WCS is the only income for an up and comming player.

Koreans could have practised on na server and prevented this situation. But why would they? It's not in their interest. They thought selfish just as we do now. We need a strong local scene and thats the way we need to take. If a foreigner can only expect top32 at wcs and if wcs is the only income then there is no reason to practise for this game because it takes years to get good at the game.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 17:26:07
February 16 2016 17:25 GMT
#158
On February 17 2016 02:16 todespolka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 06:35 mammuluk wrote:
I'm european, so this consideration could seem a bad one, but once again: this new WCS system is UNFAIR.
goodbye HerO


Maybe it doesn't suit HerO but it isn't unfair! We need a own strong local scene just as korea. There is no way to practise for a tournament if you can't play against the same player on ladder. WCS is the only income for an up and comming player.

Koreans could have practised on na server and prevented this situation. But why would they? It's not in their interest. They thought selfish just as we do now. We need a strong local scene and thats the way we need to take. If a foreigner can only expect top32 at wcs and if wcs is the only income then there is no reason to practise for this game because it takes years to get good at the game.

This affected ForGG, previous changes affected MC, First or Yoda. All these players were on EU ladder. So that's it. Also IIRC NA players from west coast practice in Korea, should they be banned from WCS too?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
February 16 2016 17:42 GMT
#159
On February 17 2016 02:16 todespolka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 06:35 mammuluk wrote:
I'm european, so this consideration could seem a bad one, but once again: this new WCS system is UNFAIR.
goodbye HerO


Maybe it doesn't suit HerO but it isn't unfair! We need a own strong local scene just as korea. There is no way to practise for a tournament if you can't play against the same player on ladder. WCS is the only income for an up and comming player.

Koreans could have practised on na server and prevented this situation. But why would they? It's not in their interest. They thought selfish just as we do now. We need a strong local scene and thats the way we need to take. If a foreigner can only expect top32 at wcs and if wcs is the only income then there is no reason to practise for this game because it takes years to get good at the game.



How many fan favorites have to be forced into retirement before we have a "fair" scene that nobody wants to watch anymore?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
February 16 2016 18:24 GMT
#160
On February 15 2016 18:24 realityyy wrote:
Another step on Blizzard's quest to kill professional Starcraft II.


The first WCS did everything right, the tournaments and finals for each nation, then region then the world. It was awesome.

Blizzard took that experience and just keeps making it worse.
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