• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:02
CEST 02:02
KST 09:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence5Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups3WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues
Tourneys
WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion Playing StarCraft as 2 people on the same network
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group C Is there English video for group selection for ASL [ASL20] Ro16 Group B [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1322 users

S2SL Season 2 Challenger Match Ups Announced - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
116 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
March 30 2015 11:28 GMT
#41
Why is the league abbreviated to NSSL? Where does the 'N' come from?
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 11:29:35
March 30 2015 11:29 GMT
#42
(T)Flash 3-1 (Z)Leenock
(Z)Rogue 3-0 (P)Hurricane
(P)herO[jOin] 3-1 (Z)Symbol
(Z)soO 3-2 (P)Super
(T)Cure 3-2 (Z)Soulkey
(P)Trap 3-1 (Z)Dark
(P)Zest 3-1 (T)Bbyong
(Z)Losira 3-1 (Z)HyuN
(P)Creator 3-2 (P)Classic
(T)INnoVation 3-1 (Z)ByuL
(P)Dear 3-2 (P)sOs
(P)PartinG 3-1 (P)MacSed
Icebound Esports
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 30 2015 11:30 GMT
#43
On March 30 2015 20:28 dala wrote:
Why is the league abbreviated to NSSL? Where does the 'N' come from?

Naver, their sponsor. They are a big company, apparently Korea's Google.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 30 2015 11:30 GMT
#44
On March 30 2015 20:28 dala wrote:
Why is the league abbreviated to NSSL? Where does the 'N' come from?

Naver, main sponsor of the league.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
March 30 2015 11:34 GMT
#45
On March 30 2015 19:56 sc2chronic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 19:26 Ja.Y. wrote:
I have faith that Creator will be back in some what of his old form. I can see him beating Classic, especially if Classic's mindset isn't stable.

I'm super excited for the Trap vs. Dark matchup. Dark has a lot to prove in individual leagues and Trap, who has been doing pretty well for himself lately, is going to test Dark's ability against a strong Protoss. But, I think Trap will beat Dark because JAGW doesn't have to play Trap in SPL because JAGW has a deeper lineup than SKT. So, Trap can save some sick builds for Dark. We'll have to see I guess.

I wonder what form Dear and sOs are in...... *strokes beard* interesting...


literally disagreed with everything you said

Trap already beat Dark 3-1 in IEM WC Katowice, he can do it again
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
March 30 2015 11:53 GMT
#46
On March 30 2015 20:19 opisska wrote:
The single-match "challenger league" continues to be the dumbest format in the SC2 universe.

I think it's the best. It makes challenger round is more worth to watch.
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18449 Posts
March 30 2015 11:57 GMT
#47
On March 30 2015 20:19 opisska wrote:
The single-match "challenger league" continues to be the dumbest format in the SC2 universe.


No, that award goes to IEM's winner takes it all format. Even IEM admitted it by not doing it this year again heh
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
March 30 2015 12:02 GMT
#48
(T)Flash vs (Z)Leenock rip Leenock
(Z)Rogue vs (P)Hurricane RIP Hurricane
(P)herO[jOin] vs (Z)Symbol RIP Symbol
(Z)soO vs (P)Super RIP soO
(T)Cure vs (Z)Soulkey rip Cure
(P)Trap vs (Z)Dark rip Dark
(P)Zest vs (T)Bbyong RIP Bbyong
(Z)Losira vs (Z)HyuN rip Hyun
(P)Creator vs (P)Classic RIP Creator
(T)INnoVation vs (Z)ByuL rip Byul
(P)Dear vs (P)sOs RIP sOs
(P)PartinG vs (P)MacSed[/QUOTE] RIP^2 MacSed
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
March 30 2015 12:21 GMT
#49
On March 30 2015 20:19 opisska wrote:
The single-match "challenger league" continues to be the dumbest format in the SC2 universe.


Indeed.

Super excited for sOs PvP :D
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
March 30 2015 12:40 GMT
#50
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
March 30 2015 12:46 GMT
#51
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
March 30 2015 12:49 GMT
#52
On March 30 2015 20:53 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 20:19 opisska wrote:
The single-match "challenger league" continues to be the dumbest format in the SC2 universe.

I think it's the best. It makes challenger round is more worth to watch.


I also like the format. The volatility seems designed to differentiate the NSSL from the GSL, since it presumably shakes up the ro16 more. A GSL clone would get fewer viewers because most people would just watch the original. They could have done another format (last season someone "suggested" a 32-player round robin), but this keeps the stakes high and adds a lot of variety.
<3 BaseTradeTV <3
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 30 2015 12:49 GMT
#53
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 12:57:07
March 30 2015 12:53 GMT
#54
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 30 2015 12:58 GMT
#55
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.

skyhigh isn't really a regular proleague player ( i didn't watch the game though!)
Ok i agree that Leenock probably is not the weakest of them all, but i still am of the opinion that he is one of the weakest for sure.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18449 Posts
March 30 2015 12:58 GMT
#56
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.


Flash vs protoss - enough said.
Flash got his best matchup vs the weakest zerg.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 13:06:26
March 30 2015 13:03 GMT
#57
On March 30 2015 21:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.

skyhigh isn't really a regular proleague player ( i didn't watch the game though!)
Ok i agree that Leenock probably is not the weakest of them all, but i still am of the opinion that he is one of the weakest for sure.

CJ is fielding sKyHigh a lot this round, not sure what you mean.
On March 30 2015 21:58 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.


Flash vs protoss - enough said.
Flash got his best matchup vs the weakest zerg.

Flash completely rekt Creator, barely lost to Trap and threw the game against sOs. Flash vs Protoss isn't as bad as you make it sound. KT actively fields him against Protoss in SPL. And his historically best MU is TvT. He had a 10 game losing streak against Zerg in the beginning of this year, mind you. And Leenock isn't even the weakest Zerg.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 30 2015 13:07 GMT
#58
On March 30 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.

skyhigh isn't really a regular proleague player ( i didn't watch the game though!)
Ok i agree that Leenock probably is not the weakest of them all, but i still am of the opinion that he is one of the weakest for sure.

CJ is fielding sKyHigh a lot this round, not sure what you mean.
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 21:58 sharkie wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.


Flash vs protoss - enough said.
Flash got his best matchup vs the weakest zerg.

Flash completely rekt Creator, barely lost to Trap and threw the game against sOs. Flash vs Protoss isn't as bad as you make it sound. KT actively fields him against Protoss in SPL. And his historically best MU is TvT. He had a 10 game losing streak against Zerg in the beginning of this year, mind you.


Haha fair enough (i probably should watch more CJ games)
Still, outside of Proleague skyhigh doesn't have any real results. I am just saying that a game vs skyhigh probably shouldn't determine how we value Leenock
Leenock is definitely bottom tier if we look at all these players, that's my whole point
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 13:11:22
March 30 2015 13:09 GMT
#59
On March 30 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.

skyhigh isn't really a regular proleague player ( i didn't watch the game though!)
Ok i agree that Leenock probably is not the weakest of them all, but i still am of the opinion that he is one of the weakest for sure.

CJ is fielding sKyHigh a lot this round, not sure what you mean.
On March 30 2015 21:58 sharkie wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:46 Elentos wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:40 esdf wrote:
flash couldn't have gotten an easier opponent. hope he doesn't bomb it this time.

What? There are many easier opponents than friggin Leenock.

He won 6 out of his last 23 games, no there probably isn't an easier opponent.
At least there aren't "many"

He crushed sKyHigh today. Other easy opponents include Symbol, Hurricane, Super, HyuN and friggin MacSed. Don't tell me Leenock is easier than friggin MacSed.


Flash vs protoss - enough said.
Flash got his best matchup vs the weakest zerg.

Flash completely rekt Creator, barely lost to Trap and threw the game against sOs. Flash vs Protoss isn't as bad as you make it sound. KT actively fields him against Protoss in SPL. And his historically best MU is TvT. He had a 10 game losing streak against Zerg in the beginning of this year, mind you.


Haha fair enough (i probably should watch more CJ games)
Still, outside of Proleague skyhigh doesn't have any real results. I am just saying that a game vs skyhigh probably shouldn't determine how we value Leenock
Leenock is definitely bottom tier if we look at all these players, that's my whole point

sKyHigh's mech crushed both soO and Losira, that's why I brought it up. Leenock isn't top tier, but he's not the easiest Flash could have gotten.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3392 Posts
March 30 2015 13:20 GMT
#60
So hard for bbyong and byul...
Horang2 fan
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
Mid Season Playoffs #2
CranKy Ducklings13
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 238
ROOTCatZ 58
CosmosSc2 49
SpeCial 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 714
ggaemo 67
sSak 18
Counter-Strike
fl0m1083
Stewie2K508
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0148
Liquid`Ken74
Other Games
summit1g4612
Grubby3369
FrodaN1948
shahzam996
JimRising 322
ToD180
SortOf115
Maynarde100
Trikslyr75
Nathanias21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick696
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta37
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 22
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22483
• WagamamaTV453
• Ler53
Other Games
• Scarra996
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 58m
Afreeca Starleague
9h 58m
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
2v2
10h 58m
PiGosaur Monday
23h 58m
LiuLi Cup
1d 10h
RSL Revival
2 days
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Online Event
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Team Wars
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.