Pinnacle voids ByuL vs MarineKing Match - Page 61

On April 02 2015 22:39 damoonwolf wrote:
It's not cheating, MarineKing is just very really bad.

On April 02 2015 08:35 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
I posted basically the same thing in another thread like this.

To those of you who think betting lines that suspicious are NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.

Please I pray to god you are never on a jury because you have no ability to assess evidence. Sure its not a smoking gun, but it is STRONG evidence. Lines moving that much, the most reasonable explanation is that someone knows the fix is in.

Then we have the game itself. Well when you have one piece of strong evidence, then THAT game, which itself would imo, be almost a smoking gun, in fact close to DNA evidence on the murder weapon, then we have a cast iron certainty. This game was fixed. The probability of that? Honestly its 99.9999% or something. But the way people act they seem to think its like a 50/50 or something. Because they jump through insane mental loops to try to convince themselves that each piece of evidence is not that strong in itself.

But its no surprise really a lot of people on this site are:

1. Very young
2. Not versed in mathematics
3. No idea about betting, how it works anything like that

On April 02 2015 23:03 Pr0wler wrote:

Lol, that was funny. Go tell that to a lawyer... and watch how he laughs at your face. A betting line movement and a replay of the game. Strong evidence... Better send the guy to the jail.

On April 02 2015 23:19 Saya666 wrote:
It's really been awhile since the last update... trying to let it blow over?

On April 03 2015 02:34 Swoopae wrote:
I think the mods (if they are so inclined) could maybe put together the key posts from this thread and put them in the OP; lichter's post from the other thread re: kespa are aware of this, DJhelium's tweets to MVP and their replies, the posts where I explained the manner in which the money was bet on Byul and why the betting action was suspicious and unusual and explained dynamic line movement, a list of the 4 cancelled matches and additional matches identified as having suspicious line movement that were not cancelled, Pinnacle's original statement on the San vs Dark match and brief statement on this match , the replay itself which is already in OP, Marineking's facebook rant response, the videos where kane/huk/richard etc all discuss the issue, Welmu and Huk's posts ITT, Rekrul's post in the thread, etc

On April 03 2015 03:42 boxerfred wrote:
Well, no Proleague for me until this is solved. The more I lurk this thread, the sicker I get. StarCraft used to cheer me up, especially high quality competition that is Proleague.

On April 02 2015 23:39 Penev wrote:

We're waiting for this
https://twitter.com/SC2MVP/status/582525929135738880
Also for people who just started posting: Please read the thread.

On April 03 2015 07:58 Swoopae wrote:
For the record not all of the cancelled matches were in Proleague; Innovation vs Super map 1 and Super vs Dream map 1 were in individual leagues, although a majority of the suspicious matches did occur in Proleague as well as two of the four cancelled bets on matches.

San vs Dark, no statements of significance were made other than San issuing a denial and claiming he played badly and claimed had a shoulder injury I think it was.

Because a thread was never made for the individual league series where there was suspicious line movement on Map 1 only, no statements were made about any of those.

On March 26 2015 09:50 Davichi wrote:
Hello there.

I am posting this on my alternative account as I don't want my main account to be associated with any of the investigations in regards to the current match-fixing crisis we have right now. If moderators want to know who I am, they are free to check my user profile to see the IP matched to the user I am. All I ask is anonymity and to refrain from leaking my actual identity to the public.

Anyway, there's a very popular prop bet that shows up on Korean toto (betting sites) for 'game ending in (X) minutes', where there are several betting odds for a different time (so for example, 15 will have a lower line than say, 10). Word on the street in Korea is that many 'good' players will take advantage of this prop bet in a best-of-series against a weak opponent in order to make a bit of money by throwing one of the sets taking advantage of the prop bet, and then convincingly win the rest of the series.

One game which was highlighted by SwoopAE in terms of being suspicious that may have fit the bill was Innovation vs Super Game 1 from the GSL. This was a part of a best-of-series and had a 2-1 result.

If possible, could anyone check on the times the game ended at and the manner in which the game ended?

EDIT: There was also Super vs Dream Game 1 that was apparently compromised, but Dream swept the series 3-0 so I'm guessing for the bet to be nulled was that Super decided to do something in Game 1 that would have fulfilled a prop bet but he still lost.

On April 03 2015 03:55 JoeCool wrote:


Yeah same for me... but I feel like there are lots of people that lost part of their passion because of the recent events. How has viewership been this week?
Maybe it was naive, believing that Sc2 is a "clean" sport, but it is a huge disappointment.