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Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
March 08 2014 02:49 GMT
#161
Just goes to show how fragile the sc2 business is. There's just barely enough interest in the game that, if nothing goes wrong, they stay afloat. Unfortunately, looks like a few things went wrong for them.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
March 08 2014 02:52 GMT
#162
At least it will be nice to watch Nathanias finally cast some WCS
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 02:54:48
March 08 2014 02:53 GMT
#163
On March 08 2014 11:22 Plansix wrote:
The Chinese players could be boned if their visas can't be obtained. But maybe they can get in on a travel visa since this should be a one off thing. Those have to be easier to obtain, right? (Hopeful smile)


how many Chinese players are there in WCS NA that need visas?

EDIT: ok looking at the wiki

its 2 so far, Xigua and Toodming, mostly Koreans in the ro16 lol

all Koreans so far except for Huk, Xigua, and Toodming
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 08 2014 02:53 GMT
#164
On March 08 2014 11:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:44 Bagration wrote:
Damn, now not only are NA players basically extinct from WCS Premier, but now even the tournament is being run by EU.

At least ESL will put on a good show


if ESL is based in Europe i think they'll have a hard time putting on solid live events in NA.

my prediction is... the live events for WCS AM in 2014 will suck balls compared to the final WCS event organized by NASL.

ESL's online only stuff should be good though.

basically, Blizzard is unwilling to pay MLG enough money to make it worth their while.

So wrong. So so wrong. One you are assuming ESL will be running seasons 2 and 3. Two, ESL has been putting on events I'm NA for years.
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GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
March 08 2014 02:55 GMT
#165
Really sad news. After their rocky start, I really came to love NASL. The broadcasts were quality, and they had a lot more personality than many of the other tournament organizations. The scene is definitely worse off without them.

Thanks for the memories, NASL.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
March 08 2014 02:55 GMT
#166
On March 08 2014 11:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:44 Bagration wrote:
Damn, now not only are NA players basically extinct from WCS Premier, but now even the tournament is being run by EU.

At least ESL will put on a good show


if ESL is based in Europe i think they'll have a hard time putting on solid live events in NA.

my prediction is... the live events for WCS AM in 2014 will suck balls compared to the final WCS event organized by NASL.

ESL's online only stuff should be good though.

basically, Blizzard is unwilling to pay MLG enough money to make it worth their while.


? ESL hosts the most geographically diverse set of events out of any organizer
Snake.69
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada140 Posts
March 08 2014 02:55 GMT
#167
WCS is falling apart... Korea wants *GSL CODE S* back, so its not really WCS korea anymore. Wcs america is in europe with mostly korean players... so its not really WCS america anymore..

ANd WCS europe cant be WCS europe if its the only region where theres a WCS.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
March 08 2014 02:59 GMT
#168
literally put any event anywhere in canada and it will be awesome
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
March 08 2014 03:06 GMT
#169
On March 08 2014 11:55 Snake.69 wrote:
WCS is falling apart... Korea wants *GSL CODE S* back, so its not really WCS korea anymore. Wcs america is in europe with mostly korean players... so its not really WCS america anymore..

ANd WCS europe cant be WCS europe if its the only region where theres a WCS.

What are you even talking about.. GSL hasn't changed...
Refer to my post.
Mattumsfox
Profile Joined April 2012
United States233 Posts
March 08 2014 03:06 GMT
#170
Redbull to run seasons 2 and 3?
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 08 2014 03:07 GMT
#171
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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 03:11:01
March 08 2014 03:10 GMT
#172
On March 08 2014 11:55 Snake.69 wrote:
WCS is falling apart... Korea wants *GSL CODE S* back, so its not really WCS korea anymore. Wcs america is in europe with mostly korean players... so its not really WCS america anymore..

ANd WCS europe cant be WCS europe if its the only region where theres a WCS.


You're partly right, the situation right now is a bit sketchy, but I hope Blizz will find a new organization in NA that can run future seasons of WCS NA.
On the identity problem with Huk being the only American player in WCS NA... well, we never mentioned region lock, did we?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 03:21:24
March 08 2014 03:10 GMT
#173
On March 08 2014 11:53 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:44 Bagration wrote:
Damn, now not only are NA players basically extinct from WCS Premier, but now even the tournament is being run by EU.

At least ESL will put on a good show


if ESL is based in Europe i think they'll have a hard time putting on solid live events in NA.

my prediction is... the live events for WCS AM in 2014 will suck balls compared to the final WCS event organized by NASL.

ESL's online only stuff should be good though.

basically, Blizzard is unwilling to pay MLG enough money to make it worth their while.

So wrong. So so wrong. One you are assuming ESL will be running seasons 2 and 3. Two, ESL has been putting on events I'm NA for years.


this is a fly by seat-of-their-pants last minute decision.. not some calculated move

so you are predicting a live event as good or better than the final event organized by NASL in 2013?
i'm predicting they live events in NA will be worse and just part of the general decline of the SC2 esports scene.

its not economically viable, especially in NA where you have a population so spread out.
the live events in 2014 in NA will reflect its lack of viability.

If the WCS finals occur at Blizzcon 2014 it'll be great because Blizzard is willing to lose money on that show.
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
March 08 2014 03:11 GMT
#174
On March 08 2014 12:06 Mattumsfox wrote:
Redbull to run seasons 2 and 3?


that assumes they want it. WCS NA seems to be a money loser and I don't think RedBull will want to be seen having a failure and will probably play it safe and keep a distance from WCS NA. (My completely speculative guess of course)
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 08 2014 03:11 GMT
#175
Pretty obvious stuff after seeing MrBitter leave a few days ago.
Sad tho.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
March 08 2014 03:12 GMT
#176
On March 08 2014 12:11 Noocta wrote:
Pretty obvious stuff after seeing MrBitter leave a few days ago.
Sad tho.


Not obvious to MrBitter. His tweet pretty much indicates that. Nor to Rotterdam - his tweet indicates the same thing.

Fortunately, I think Chance is safe even though he may be Clauf'd.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 08 2014 03:18 GMT
#177
On March 08 2014 12:12 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 12:11 Noocta wrote:
Pretty obvious stuff after seeing MrBitter leave a few days ago.
Sad tho.


Not obvious to MrBitter. His tweet pretty much indicates that. Nor to Rotterdam - his tweet indicates the same thing.

Fortunately, I think Chance is safe even though he may be Clauf'd.


Chance is on ESGN.
Every stream viewers have no idea what the dog is doing here everytime.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 08 2014 03:22 GMT
#178
On March 08 2014 11:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:28 Plansix wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:26 Popkiller wrote:
not sure what's wrong with broadcasting it at the same time they do WCS EU... that's 9am PST. Not too bad for NA and much better for the players and casters in EU.

That's fucking terrible, I'm at work and half of the fa base or more will be at class.


NA fans are almost like second class citizens.


There's like less than half the number of regular NA viewers as opposed to EU. It's to be expected that EU would get priority. The EU audience is more reliable and there's more of them.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 08 2014 03:25 GMT
#179
On March 08 2014 12:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:53 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:44 Bagration wrote:
Damn, now not only are NA players basically extinct from WCS Premier, but now even the tournament is being run by EU.

At least ESL will put on a good show


if ESL is based in Europe i think they'll have a hard time putting on solid live events in NA.

my prediction is... the live events for WCS AM in 2014 will suck balls compared to the final WCS event organized by NASL.

ESL's online only stuff should be good though.

basically, Blizzard is unwilling to pay MLG enough money to make it worth their while.

So wrong. So so wrong. One you are assuming ESL will be running seasons 2 and 3. Two, ESL has been putting on events I'm NA for years.


this is a fly by seat-of-their-pants last minute decision.. not some calculated move

so you are predicting a live event as good or better than the final event organized by NASL in 2013?
i'm predicting they live events willl be worse and just part of the general decline of the SC2 esports scene.

What live event are we talking about here? The events will basically mirror WCS EU, which has been better than WCS NA. There are no more season finals, so no reason to compare to the Toronto event. The WCS AM season finals were at Red bull. Which was a nice event for sure, but nothing amazing that ESL won't match or better.
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
March 08 2014 03:26 GMT
#180
Red Bull will most likely pick up WCS NA for season 2 would be my guess. Would make sense with their recent announcements about getting involved with ESPORTs and Sc2 plus Bitter has gone there too.
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