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NASL end SC2 Operations, ESL to take over WCS AM - Page 8

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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 08 2014 02:24 GMT
#141
On March 08 2014 11:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:16 Squat wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Got some serious concerns regarding travel compensation which was supposed to be done through NASL. Hopefully we'll get an answer from Blizzard soon about it otherwise that could be a huge suckerpunch to teams budgets.

You got any Axiom guys in WCS NA atm? Sorry, I haven't been following this season much so I'm a little out of the loop. I really think Bizzard should pick up the tab for it regardless, they are the ultimately responsible party.


3 of em, we have the most of any team in that tournament iirc. We sent them because of travel compensation arrangements made for the 2014 season. This puts that into flux, though I trust Blizzard to have our backs regardless. No doubt other teams with Korean players have similar concerns though. I'm most worried about the Chinese players.

Alright, cool. I think you should be pretty safe in that case.

The Chinese guys might be fucked though, no question about that. Hard enough to get a Visa as it is, this just makes it even more of a pain for them.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 02:26:54
March 08 2014 02:26 GMT
#142
Big Thanks to NASL for recognizing that "Toronto" was a great place to put on a live event.

NASL is gone, but not forgotten.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
March 08 2014 02:26 GMT
#143
not sure what's wrong with broadcasting it at the same time they do WCS EU... that's 9am PST. Not too bad for NA and much better for the players and casters in EU.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 08 2014 02:28 GMT
#144
On March 08 2014 11:26 Popkiller wrote:
not sure what's wrong with broadcasting it at the same time they do WCS EU... that's 9am PST. Not too bad for NA and much better for the players and casters in EU.

That's fucking terrible, I'm at work and half of the fa base or more will be at class.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 08 2014 02:30 GMT
#145
Yeah they should keep the NA friendly schedule so I'll have something to watch when I get to work
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ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
March 08 2014 02:30 GMT
#146
ouch, NASL was the very first SC2 content I ever watched thanks for all the memories!

hopefully all goes well regarding WCS AM and its players / teams
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
March 08 2014 02:31 GMT
#147
Just seems like a few months ago when I attended WCS Season 3 finals at the Convention Center in Toronto. Really a shame, enjoyed that and watching the NASL finals on stream the year before that where Stephano won... really really feel for NASL and wish everyone there all the best going forward
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 08 2014 02:31 GMT
#148
On March 08 2014 11:26 Popkiller wrote:
not sure what's wrong with broadcasting it at the same time they do WCS EU... that's 9am PST. Not too bad for NA and much better for the players and casters in EU.

Because if you play the tournament, which now consists mainly of Koreans and a few Chinese fellows, in EU, on an EU centric timetable, you kind of lose any right to call it WCS NA anymore. It's supposed to be an NA region qualifier for the WCS season and grand finals. If they did that it would just be WCS EU 2.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
March 08 2014 02:33 GMT
#149
R.I.P. NASL... i knew something was fishy when frodan, bitter, clutch were no longer involved. never thought this day would come... #dicey ((
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
March 08 2014 02:35 GMT
#150
Blizzard restructures everything so there is a tonne of time between active seasons. and still a league goes tits up midway through a season.

its telling that this happens right in the middle of a season rather than in a nice clean neat and tidy way between seasons.

"Alas, fate has scouted our fast expand, and our time broadcasting StarCraft has come to an end. To all of our partners, sponsors, friends, and especially our fans, thank you. "

NASL needed extra cash so when they built their expansion command center they converted it to an orbital command.
i guess they couldn't afford bunkers, missile turrets and a planetary fortress upgrade..
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 02:36:11
March 08 2014 02:35 GMT
#151
On March 08 2014 11:10 Dodgin wrote:


I guess this means they will run WCS AM at AM friendly times even for the ro16 onwards, the players and casters will have to be up really late if they're in germany though.


that seems to go against what was said by Kaivax on reddit who basically said that times are still TBD for RO16 on.

edit: source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1zuofs/our_farewell_to_the_starcraft_community/cfx6kkn
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 08 2014 02:36 GMT
#152
On March 08 2014 11:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:26 Popkiller wrote:
not sure what's wrong with broadcasting it at the same time they do WCS EU... that's 9am PST. Not too bad for NA and much better for the players and casters in EU.

That's fucking terrible, I'm at work and half of the fa base or more will be at class.


NA fans are almost like second class citizens.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 08 2014 02:38 GMT
#153
On March 08 2014 11:33 Advantageous wrote:
R.I.P. NASL... i knew something was fishy when frodan, bitter, clutch were no longer involved. never thought this day would come... #dicey ((


aw man I just realized we may never here "I DON'T KNOW KEV IT'S GETTING KINDA DICEY" ever again
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 08 2014 02:38 GMT
#154
On March 08 2014 11:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:28 Plansix wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:26 Popkiller wrote:
not sure what's wrong with broadcasting it at the same time they do WCS EU... that's 9am PST. Not too bad for NA and much better for the players and casters in EU.

That's fucking terrible, I'm at work and half of the fa base or more will be at class.


NA fans are almost like second class citizens.

Even SEA server is now more relevant
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 02:42:13
March 08 2014 02:39 GMT
#155
Wtf? WCS AM in Europe? Why not give it to Red Bull?

On March 08 2014 11:35 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:10 Dodgin wrote:
https://twitter.com/kimaphan/status/442118293432696834

I guess this means they will run WCS AM at AM friendly times even for the ro16 onwards, the players and casters will have to be up really late if they're in germany though.


that seems to go against what was said by Kaivax on reddit who basically said that times are still TBD for RO16 on.

edit: source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1zuofs/our_farewell_to_the_starcraft_community/cfx6kkn


So... there goes the sleep schedule of all the players and the casters as well as the production team?

On March 08 2014 11:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Big Thanks to NASL for recognizing that "Toronto" was a great place to put on a live event.

NASL is gone, but not forgotten.


This! They loved Toronto! We loved NASL! You will always be remembered just like IPL!
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
March 08 2014 02:41 GMT
#156
On March 08 2014 11:38 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:33 Advantageous wrote:
R.I.P. NASL... i knew something was fishy when frodan, bitter, clutch were no longer involved. never thought this day would come... #dicey ((


aw man I just realized we may never here "I DON'T KNOW KEV IT'S GETTING KINDA DICEY" ever again


Never say never
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 08 2014 02:42 GMT
#157
On March 08 2014 11:41 Nathanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:38 lichter wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:33 Advantageous wrote:
R.I.P. NASL... i knew something was fishy when frodan, bitter, clutch were no longer involved. never thought this day would come... #dicey ((


aw man I just realized we may never here "I DON'T KNOW KEV IT'S GETTING KINDA DICEY" ever again


Never say never


:o :o :o :o :o

don't disappoint me :D
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 08 2014 02:43 GMT
#158
On March 08 2014 11:38 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:33 Advantageous wrote:
R.I.P. NASL... i knew something was fishy when frodan, bitter, clutch were no longer involved. never thought this day would come... #dicey ((


aw man I just realized we may never here "I DON'T KNOW KEV IT'S GETTING KINDA DICEY" ever again


They can invite Rotti to cast an RB event and hey, there is always Harstem
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 08 2014 02:44 GMT
#159
Damn, now not only are NA players basically extinct from WCS Premier, but now even the tournament is being run by EU.

At least ESL will put on a good show
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 02:50:04
March 08 2014 02:48 GMT
#160
On March 08 2014 11:44 Bagration wrote:
Damn, now not only are NA players basically extinct from WCS Premier, but now even the tournament is being run by EU.

At least ESL will put on a good show


if ESL is based in Europe i think they'll have a hard time putting on solid live events in NA.

my prediction is... the live events for WCS AM in 2014 will suck balls compared to the final WCS event organized by NASL.

ESL's online only stuff should be good though.

basically, Blizzard is unwilling to pay MLG enough money to make it worth their while.
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