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NASL end SC2 Operations, ESL to take over WCS AM - Page 3

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Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
March 08 2014 00:39 GMT
#41
Crazy news. Sad to see them shut down like this. I'm sure ESL will do a good job so I'm not afraid of that. Just sad for NASL. Liked those guys a lot.
I have a question...
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 08 2014 00:39 GMT
#42
On March 08 2014 09:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 09:33 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 08 2014 09:20 .kv wrote:
good thing Bitter got out before this happen...hope the best for rotti


I think you mean bitter got out because he knew this was happening. Bitter got to a pretty high position within nasl, so I guess we should have seen this coming with him jumping ship. A decision like this doesn't happen overnight. Bitter knew this was coming for a while.

I don't know Kev... He just posted this on twitter:

Ben Nichol ‏@MrBitterTV 6m
Woah. So I'm feeling a little conflicted right now. #SuddenAnnouncements


Hmmm that's interesting and surprising if bitter didn't know.
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JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
March 08 2014 00:41 GMT
#43
This sucks so much. They brought SC2 to Canada and put on two awesome events among all the other great things they did for the scene.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 08 2014 00:43 GMT
#44
ESL's weight just doubled, goddamn OOOO:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 08 2014 00:44 GMT
#45
On March 08 2014 09:26 stuchiu wrote:
I like how NASL was so god damn insistent on playing KR vs KR games on the NA server but now we get the lan portion of WCS NA in EU.

its ok, they will still be played on NA from Cologne. Its still WCS America.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 08 2014 00:45 GMT
#46
ESL is reliable as always, really cool from the to take over midseason. Let's see what happens with WCS NA in season 2 and where Rotterdam ends up. Redbull, MLG (lol), Blizzard inhouse production or maybe NESL? I'm sure Kev won't do WOT.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
March 08 2014 00:46 GMT
#47
I can't wait for someone to get some info on why this actually happened. I don't understand it. They had a good thing with Blizzard, and they were all passionate, and put on a good show. Why'd they back out?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let RedBull take over and handle WCS AM. Holy shit that would be amazing.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 08 2014 00:48 GMT
#48
On March 08 2014 09:44 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 09:26 stuchiu wrote:
I like how NASL was so god damn insistent on playing KR vs KR games on the NA server but now we get the lan portion of WCS NA in EU.

its ok, they will still be played on NA from Cologne. Its still WCS America.


I feel all better now.
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tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
March 08 2014 00:49 GMT
#49
On March 08 2014 09:44 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 09:26 stuchiu wrote:
I like how NASL was so god damn insistent on playing KR vs KR games on the NA server but now we get the lan portion of WCS NA in EU.

its ok, they will still be played on NA from Cologne. Its still WCS America.


They're also adding a hot dog and fireworks vendor to the ESL studio.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 08 2014 00:50 GMT
#50
On March 08 2014 09:39 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 09:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On March 08 2014 09:33 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 08 2014 09:20 .kv wrote:
good thing Bitter got out before this happen...hope the best for rotti


I think you mean bitter got out because he knew this was happening. Bitter got to a pretty high position within nasl, so I guess we should have seen this coming with him jumping ship. A decision like this doesn't happen overnight. Bitter knew this was coming for a while.

I don't know Kev... He just posted this on twitter:

Ben Nichol ‏@MrBitterTV 6m
Woah. So I'm feeling a little conflicted right now. #SuddenAnnouncements


Hmmm that's interesting and surprising if bitter didn't know.


Maybe Bitter leaving is the reason to why the decision was taken. You can fill in for a caster but as I have understood it he was much more than that.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 00:53:31
March 08 2014 00:50 GMT
#51
Thanks for everything NASL. Although it would have been nicer had this been done after the season, I can't really generate any animosity towards the guys at NASL.

On the matter of WCS AM, I hope there won't be any visa issues. I mean this is pretty short notice and WCS AM has two players from the Chinese scene.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 08 2014 00:54 GMT
#52
MLG has to come in for Season 2. Having WCS AM in EU is just stupid. And ESL shouldn't have to run both, it must be a strain on them. There's no other NA organisation, really.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 08 2014 00:55 GMT
#53
It would be kind of funny if a bunch of NA natives had to drop out due to visa issues.
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SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
March 08 2014 00:55 GMT
#54
On March 08 2014 09:17 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 09:16 stuchiu wrote:
So Rotterdam is left in limbo?

Since they will continue to cast from the Cologne studios I guess he will work with ESL for WCS America. Also he conveniently is in Germany atm


I think Take said this week that this will be Rotti's shortest trip to Europe and that he's already flying back next week... I guess he didnt know it?

I guess things really moved fast from MrBitter leaving 3 days ago, it seems like he didnt know it back then if i interpret his reaction on twitter correctly.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 08 2014 00:55 GMT
#55
On March 08 2014 09:54 Larkin wrote:
MLG has to come in for Season 2. Having WCS AM in EU is just stupid. And ESL shouldn't have to run both, it must be a strain on them. There's no other NA organisation, really.

There's Blizzard themselves.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 08 2014 00:56 GMT
#56
Rotterdam and Nathanias will cast the remainder of the round of 32.
http://eslgaming.com/news/esl-take-over-production-wcs-america-2014-season-1

The ESL will be the operator of the remainder of World Championship Series America in Season I of 2014 following NASL's announcement that they’re unable to continue operating the league.

All remaining WCS America shows as well as studio events will be produced out of the ESL studios in Cologne, Germany. The remaining round of 32 groups played online will be broadcasted as originally scheduled, on March 11 and March 12 with Kevin “RotterdaM” van der Kooi and Nathan “Nathanias” Fabrikant as the commentators.

The Round of 16 groups will be played on a new date of April 5-6 (two groups a day) in the ESL studio in Cologne which has been home to WCS Europe for almost a year, with the players present as well as a live studio audience. We have already begun working with players on their travel arrangements to Germany. The finals for both WCS Europe and WCS America will take place in the ESL studio in Cologne on April 10-13.

We are fully committed to bringing the StarCraft community the best possible WCS America experience and would like to reassure everyone that the quality at which we produce WCS Europe will not be affected in any way.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2014 00:58 GMT
#57
so there are 2 WCS EUs but one has the online portion played on NA server
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Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
March 08 2014 01:01 GMT
#58
Wow... I knew things were bad when Bitter left, but I didn't expect this :/
Towelie.635
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 08 2014 01:01 GMT
#59
I wonder if Nathanias will be live at the studio or will they cast over Skype
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 08 2014 01:01 GMT
#60
I don't get it, will Rotterdam and Nathanias be in the cologne studio on March 11 and 12?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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