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Soohyung
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)116 Posts
December 22 2013 22:02 GMT
#41
Good bye Sting and good luck with whatever you will do now.
이지은
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 22:08:25
December 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#42
At this point they could simply say a pro Terran has just retired without releasing the Terran's name, previous accomplishments, or the circumstances surrounding why he retired, and people on TL will still still find a way to blame balance.
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
December 22 2013 22:15 GMT
#43
On December 23 2013 03:05 HotGlueGun wrote:
#NeverForget I always thought of him as a player with huge potential but it never really developed I guess. But he was the cutest korean terran by a mile.

Jesus Christ, comments like these make me cringe so hard.
wat.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
December 22 2013 22:23 GMT
#44
On December 23 2013 04:51 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 04:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On December 23 2013 02:47 JacobShock wrote:
not unexpected to me, the game is over saturated with good players. these players a tier below will have a hard time competing for wages.

Way over saturated

Let's be honest here.
All pros from Korea are here:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano
54
43
49
There are only 146 progamers in Korea. For me it is not a lot. 80 players can be in GSL so only 66 players left, 29 korean players are in WCS AM and EU so in total we have only 37 players without any league.


Well, are you implying that 37 players are basically unemployed isn't a lot considering the size of the scene? And most of the players which retired in the past few months were "part of" these 37 players - which should not be surprising at all. Especially in Korea there's just nothing to gain if you're not able to play any tournaments. You can't do it as a pro and if you can't do it as a pro, you'll fall off.
In Europe/USA it seems like there are quite a lot of players which just play beside studying (or whatever), but in Korea... that's probably not possible.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 22:43:14
December 22 2013 22:39 GMT
#45
That is sad. He is the only Terran not named MVP or Taeja that won a premier tournament in WoL post queen patch. People are just going to keep retiring though. Retirement announcements won't slow down until next season of WCS is starting.

People blaming over saturation are dumb. It isn't that at all. It's just a lack of opportunity/reason to play. If you don't already have a spot in WCS or you haven't previous made a bunch of money in SC2 the smart move is to retire. WCS has reduced opportunity for players a ridiculous amount. If 2013 WCS didn't exist or was like the 2012 WCS this wouldn't be happening. There would still be people retiring and teams disbanding but it wouldn't be this ridiculous.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 22 2013 22:39 GMT
#46
:/ well at least Daisy stays.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 22 2013 22:40 GMT
#47
On December 23 2013 07:15 Tipany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 03:05 HotGlueGun wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__rsfdROGY #NeverForget I always thought of him as a player with huge potential but it never really developed I guess. But he was the cutest korean terran by a mile.

Jesus Christ, comments like these make me cringe so hard.


Are you saying that you never felt the urge to pinch those cheeks?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
December 22 2013 22:43 GMT
#48
On December 23 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 04:41 DiMano wrote:
On December 23 2013 03:44 LimeMouse wrote:
How many friggen Terrans are going to retire?
gl Sting !

It is not about race here.


People will always make it about the race as long as it's Terran


Your comment is no different than someone complainting about balance, great example you set for others to follow.
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
December 22 2013 22:56 GMT
#49
On December 23 2013 06:59 Ghanburighan wrote:
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On December 23 2013 06:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On December 23 2013 04:14 Clbull wrote:
On December 23 2013 03:44 LimeMouse wrote:
How many friggen Terrans are going to retire?
gl Sting !

As many as is needed for Blizzard to finally step in and change the status quo.
.


5?

Am I missing something? There's like 4 listed on liquipedia retired in the last 2 months and Sting makes 5. There are more Protoss retiring than Terran, so what's your point?


Considering that he meant that terrans with no results are retiring.



Does Sting not count then?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sting#Achievements
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
December 22 2013 23:09 GMT
#50
On December 23 2013 07:56 HeavenResign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 06:59 Ghanburighan wrote:
On December 23 2013 06:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On December 23 2013 04:14 Clbull wrote:
On December 23 2013 03:44 LimeMouse wrote:
How many friggen Terrans are going to retire?
gl Sting !

As many as is needed for Blizzard to finally step in and change the status quo.
.


5?

Am I missing something? There's like 4 listed on liquipedia retired in the last 2 months and Sting makes 5. There are more Protoss retiring than Terran, so what's your point?


Considering that he meant that terrans with no results are retiring.



Does Sting not count then?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sting#Achievements


Of course he does throughout his career, but the page you listed has his last achievement 9 months ago. This is a long enough period of poor results to warrant inclusion. I think the point that people keep bringing up is that terrans that used to be good (got achievements) have fallen off and are now retiring.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
December 22 2013 23:19 GMT
#51
GL Sting! Pretty sad though...
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 22 2013 23:22 GMT
#52
More retires everyday... He looked so strong in IEM Singapore even though he didn't performed equally afterwards.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
December 23 2013 00:17 GMT
#53
Sting is my 2nd favorite streamer of all time after SerapisPrime (T). I could watch that proxy depot rush thing he does TvZ all day.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
December 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#54
GGs Sting, sad to see you go.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
XaMaXaM
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany113 Posts
December 23 2013 01:10 GMT
#55
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 23 2013 03:05 HotGlueGun wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__rsfdROGY #NeverForget I always thought of him as a player with huge potential but it never really developed I guess. But he was the cutest korean terran by a mile.



Why are you saying that he has/had potential?
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
December 23 2013 01:54 GMT
#56
That's so sad. He was so young, and seemed to have such a bright future in SC2. I guess with how saturated the scene is with talented players, it was getting hard for him to continue. Best of luck in the future.
Long live the King of Wings
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