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On the Cutting Edge: Woongjin_sOs - Road to Blizzcon #2

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Text byTL.net ESPORTS
November 1st, 2013 00:50 GMT
2013 WCS Finals

sOs is one of the greatest innovators of HotS, but others have caught up as he looks for a way to stay ahead of the curve.

by lichter

Once the Captain of the Wacky Toss Navy, (P)Woongjin_sOs has fallen off the radar during the the last two seasons of WCS. His inspiring and entertaining Ro4 run in WCS KR Season One and his runner up finish in the WCS Season One Finals, both at a time when Protoss were struggling, are now distant memories. A Ro32 knock-out in season two followed by a Ro16 elimination in season three has pushed sOs off Protoss Hope Pedestal, replaced by both rising stars like (P)Dear and (P)Trap, and old mainstays like (P)MC and (P)Rain.

What exactly happened to sOs? During sOs’ rise to fame in early HotS, he was truly ahead of the curve. He showed us that we didn’t have to play like Rain to be successful, and that we didn’t have to all-in each game either. It's not much of a stretch to say that his success in Season 1 ushered in our current era of creative, stylish and most of all successful Protosses. He's helped make PvZ and PvP some of the most strategically diverse matchups we have today, with a multitude of build orders and compositions available.

One of his most important innovations was figuring out how to really abuse the unpredictability of gateway openers in PvZ, vexing his opponents with a multitude of follow-ups including DTs, gateway all-ins, fast thirds, and stargate play. sOs was also a pioneer in figuring out effective void ray play, able to take what seemed like absurdly fast third bases while rushing up to mass void rays. On top of that, he discarded colossi and blink stalkers in favor of zealots and archons, which combined with void rays to create a nightmare combination that Zergs could not handle.

With his vast array of builds and strange new compositions, sOs became a ZvP terror. Playing 'standard' against sOs was suicide, one either had to play as risky as him, or try to counter his innovative compositions with even more creative counter-compositions. Even in his worst match-up of PvT, sOs showed he had some very good ideas, and he proved tempests could be rather effective against Terran in his WCS Season Finals match against INnoVation.

Although sOs enjoyed great success for a period, it can be argued that he became a victim of his own revolution. Protoss players around the world were inspired by sOs' style, endlessly imitating and experimenting with his strategies. After "sOs-style" became a standard part of the Protoss playbook, sOs was surpassed by even better versions of himself. What are Dear and Trap if not more refined evolutions of sOs?

Faced with an army of sOs clones and mutations, it was inevitable that Zerg players would evolve as well. They found out what they needed to scout for, delved into the weak timings that could be exploited, and came up with end-game counter compositions that could fight against sOs-style on equal footing.

As a big fan of sOs' play during his initial rise, and having been insulted by editor Waxangel about my knowledge of sOs's recent strategies, I decided to rewatch all forty of his streamed games after the Season 1 Finals. In an exercise of excessive fandom, let us revisit every single build that sOs has performed during his 'decline,' in reverse chronological tournament order.

Forty games, Forty builds
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vs. Revival (2-0)
Game 1: Blink Stalker timing attack does irreparable damage.
Game 2: Gateway expand; zealot pressure kills the third. Turtles to late game with colossus, blink stalkers and Templar.

vs. HuK (2-0)
Game 1: sOs holds a gateway expand into a robo versus 3gates. Gets a 12 minute third, and relies on immortal archon.
Game 2: Blink into an expansion versus gateway pressure; HuK all ins on one base with a robo but can’t break it

vs. San (0-2)
Game 1: Opens DT expand which does little damage against gateway expand into robo. Loses in lategame Immortal-Archon battles.
Game 2: 3 stalker opening defends against DTs. Loses in the late game due to prioritizing immortal archon over colossus.

vs. Curious (2-3)
Game 1: Nexus first into forge. Stargate for 1 phoenix then voidrays and a 7:30 third. Templar and chargelot heavy composition. 14 minute fourth. Harasses Curious to death.
Game 2: Same build as Game 1. Curious tries some hydra pressure, and the muta switch does lots of damage and roach hydra infestor kills him.
Game 3: Gateway expand versus 3hatch before pool. Stargate into phoenixes. 7gate stalker sentry pressure stopped by burrow roaches. Colossus then Templar transition, but loses the base trade due to BroodLords.
Game 4: Gateway expand. 7:30 third plus twilight tech into blink+colossus. Constant harass bleeds Curious out despite reaching BroodLords and Swarm Hosts.
Game 5: Nexus into forge instead of cannon rush on Bel’shir Vestige. Early +1 and a Stargate. Phoenix Zealot pressure does little so he transitions to colossus. Curious constantly stops his third base, and sOs eventually dies to the muta switch after roach hydra viper.




WCS KR S3

vs. Dear (2-0)
Game 1: Double gas steal into cheeky 4gate.
Game 2: Fast Expand into DTs versus Proxy Stargate. DTs prove more effective.

vs. Trap (0-2)
Game 1: Gas steal, but he realizes it’s a proxy 2gate with a core. Dies from the micro.
Game 2: Gas steal. Trap proxy’s a stargate against sOs’ normal stargate. Phoenix versus phoenix, but Trap’s better micro wins again.

vs. KeeN (2-0)
Game 1: Fast expand and 2gate robo into chargelot archon. Base trade in sOs’ favor.
Game 2: Oracle into expand followed by double forge into twilight tech, mostly chargelot archon. Cute use of oracles and hallucination versus defensive widowmines. He eventually gets colossus and wins.

vs. Trap part 2 (1-2)
Game 1: Trap opens with blink and sOs counters with Charge and a DT Shrine. DTs do nothing and sOs gets caught in the middle of the map.
Game 2: Gas steal. Stargate versus Trap’s blink, but both go robo. sOs expands, but Trap is on one base. Blink pressure doesn’t kill the nexus and sOs survives.
Game 3: Macro game. Chargelot immortal archon. Tempests eventually. Gets caught out of position.

vs. Avenge (2-1)
Game 1: Blink for sOs against an early expand, but he can’t break it.
Game 2: Avenge tries to proxy gate but gets spotted immediately and loses.
Game 3: Gas steal. Avenge tries to 4gate but his sneaky probe in the main gets spotted. He gets a stargate for an oracle, and it allows him to win a close game.




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vs. Jaedong (2-1)
Game 1: Nexus into forge and double stargate before twilight for charge. 8minute third base. Chargelots, Voidrays and Templar. Constantly loses bases to roach hydra infestor but his immortal archon eventually loses a crazy close basetrade to mutas.
Game 2: Gateway expand, 2 more gates and a forge but the pressure does nothing. A gateway allin doesn’t materialize so he transitions to twilight tech for blink and a robo. sOs survives constant roach pressure until he has enough colossus and immortals.
Game 3: Nexus into forge and a stargate versus a baneling bust. sOs miraculously holds with nothing. Wins with a big 6gate +1 attack.

vs. Taeja (0-2)
Game 1: Gateway expand into robo vs quick 3 CCs. sOs tries to punish it with quick ranged colossus, but he can’t break Taeja. He tries to transition to chargelot archon but it doesn’t work.
Game 2: Core expand vs gas before CC. Immortal bust versus marine hellion. Taeja ends up slightly ahead and wins against gateway units.




WCS KR S2

vs. EffOrt (1-0)
Cannon rush on Bel’shir evens out due to a ling runby. sOs moves on to phoenix harass, but EffOrt tries to nydus bust but can’t break against Voidrays.

vs. soO (0-1)
Gateway expand with 2 gasses into phoenixes. Ling Hydra attack on the third arrives before colossus and the muta switch does too much damage.

vs. Maru (0-1)
Gateway expand against reaper expand. Robo, single forge and colossus. Maru constantly kills the third, and takes good enough engagements. sOs claws back with chargelot immortal archon Templar but he starves out.

vs. Ruin (2-1)
Game 1: Early Mamacore for harass into stargate and expand against 2gate expand. Hallucinated oracle fakes for the real oracle. sOs goes phoenix next against double proxy stargate. Transitions to chargelot immortal archon and wins.
Game 2: Blink vs 2gate expand. sOs can’t bust the natural against immortals.
Game 3: Blink vs proxy stargate. Oracle does nothing and Ruin tries a proxy dark shrine, while sOs also builds his. sOs scouts the dark shrine and he does way more damage. Wins with chargelot immortal.

vs. Curious (2-0)
Game 1: Nexus into forge. Stargate for 1 phoenix straight into voidrays, and a 7:30 third base. Chargelot archon Templar and voidrays wins.
Game 2: Nexus before forge. Double stargate for voidrays and phoenixes; abuses the destructible rocks. Chargelot archon + SkyToss.




SPL

vs. Dear (1-0)
Proxy blink against 2gate expand and stargate. Straightforward win.

vs. PartinG (1-0)
2gate expands for both followed by a robo, and quick thirds for both. Chargelot immortal archon before transitioning to 2robo colossus. sOs attacks before tempests come out.

vs. Classic (1-0)
Proxy gate does damage, and more gates end it.

vs. Zenio (1-0)
Forge expand followed by a stargate. 1 Phoenix and 1 voidray, then straight into robo and colossus, and 2 more stargates. Ends with voidray colossus archon Templar and lots of harass.

vs. TY (0-1)
Gateway expand against CC first and a ninja CC. Stargate for oracles into twilight tech. Chargelot archon Templar with the occasional colossus.


Summary (cheese defense games excluded)
  • PvP: 19 games – 13 different openings; mostly chargelot immortal archon
  • PvZ: 15 games – 11 different openings; mix of different compositions
  • PvT: 6 games – 6 different openings; prefers chargelot archon or stargate harassment

Most interesting builds
  • PvP: Gas steals!
  • PvZ: Nexus first into forge, followed by 1 phoenix and voidrays for a 7:30 third base.
  • PvZ: Double stargate

After rewatching the games, I remembered why I appreciated sOs all over again. His unpredictable, constantly evolving, unique style of play never fails to entertain, even if it's not as effective as before. Very few players are willing to play in such a risky manner and use so many builds, and only sOs really makes some of these builds work. From his daring fast thirds, seemingly anachronistic gas steals, and his desire to use every single Protoss unit, everything he does is just plain endearing.

sOs is still a very good player—the question is whether or not he is one that can win the WCS Grand Finals. He's still tweaking his strategies to be more effective—for example he's recently stopped going mass void rays in PvZ, keeping them at a reasonable number while focusing on getting faster storm. However, it's clear that he's now only inches ahead of the curve, not miles ahead as he was in the past.

Outlook for Blizzcon

Mini predictions:
  • sOs will use Chargelot+Archon at least once vs every race
  • His PvP’s will average only 12 minutes
  • Out against the first Terran he meets
It's hard to know where sOs is at. Some of his wins have been impressive, and some of his losses have looked clumsy and very avoidable. It is almost impossible to prepare completely for someone as volatile and unpredictable as the Woongjin Protoss, but players seem to have figured out a general blueprint for how to play against him. Also, PvT is the one match-up where sOs has been less than a revelation, showing fairly ordinary play. With eight Terrans at Blizzcon, his chances are that much lower.

Unless sOs busts out something completely new for Blizzcon, things are going to be difficult for him. His micro isn’t as good as players such as Trap or HerO, he doesn't have the all-in instinct of MC or duckdeok, and he's just not as good as Dear all-around (who sOs personally coached for the GSL finals, by the way). His PvZ late game is a joy to behold and looks on par with the best, but he still relies on a strong economy and well calculated risks to get there. And who knows if he'll even play a Zerg?

It looks like we’re again reaching a point where the game has been mapped out, discoveries are few and far in between, and creative players are surpassed by their mechanically superior peers. But if anyone can bring something completely new to the table, it's HotS' most innovative player.


WCS Grand Finals
Brackets and info on Liquipedia

1: Soulkey - The Tragic Champion
2: INnoVation - The Man in the Machine
3: Jaedong - In Search of Lost Time
4: Polt - Prince of the Tides
5: HerO - Fire and Ice
6: Dear - The Unending Royal Road
7: Maru - The Prince Who Would be King
8: Bomber - I Fought the Law (And I Won)
9: MMA - Out of Exile
10: MC - Cash Rules Everything Around Me
11: TaeJa - Fire and Ice
12: sOs - On the Cutting Edge
13: aLive - The Iconoclast
14: Mvp - The King
15: duckdeok - Faceless
16: NaNiwa
17: Revival - ???


Writers: lichter.
Photo: ESL.
Editors: CosmicSpiral, SC2John, Teoita, Waxangel.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#2
ahhh I love these!
only small thing update the last thing to "SOS: On the Cutting Edge" in the last box
Aeromi
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France14460 Posts
November 01 2013 00:56 GMT
#3
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/
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Olli
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Austria24417 Posts
November 01 2013 00:58 GMT
#4
HYPE!
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NovemberstOrm
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Canada16217 Posts
November 01 2013 00:58 GMT
#5
Thanks Lichter!
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bittman
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Australia8759 Posts
November 01 2013 01:08 GMT
#6
Yeah I'm already going to love all of these by default if they maintain this quality.

Thanks Lichter!
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Australia412 Posts
November 01 2013 01:14 GMT
#7
Awesome!
ChoDing
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United States740 Posts
November 01 2013 01:16 GMT
#8
Orgyyyy lets go sos. Its time for u to go to final. But...jd gonna take it.
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lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
November 01 2013 01:19 GMT
#9
Awesome series! cant wait to see bomber's
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Sweden960 Posts
November 01 2013 01:36 GMT
#10
Thanks TL for these awesome tournaments. The hype for BlizzCon will be through the roof.
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#11
sOs! Such a fun player to watch
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bertu
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Brazil871 Posts
November 01 2013 01:48 GMT
#12
Just...wow. If the level of the other installments keep up, those previews might just be the best thing I've ever read on TL. Great job.
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November 01 2013 01:59 GMT
#13
HYPE HYPE HYPE
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Canada798 Posts
November 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#14
God, these are wonderful. These (Relatively) short player bios serve as both hype and a "Getting to know the players" for some of the people who aren't constantly in the spotlight (Such as aLive, sOs, duckdeok, Revival *ugh*)
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Austria24417 Posts
November 01 2013 02:05 GMT
#15
I can confirm that lichter has been working his ass off. Passion through the roof.
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November 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#16
What's the order for these hype articles? Judging from the first 2, it's going from the player whose last impressive showing is the furthest from now. Does that mean Dear's is last?
Kal_rA
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United States2925 Posts
November 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#17
Stoked for the Jaedong one :D
Jaedong.
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United States225 Posts
November 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#18
Nerdchill one more... omfg im so hypeeeeee
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AxiomBlurr
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November 01 2013 02:09 GMT
#19
I am loving this current Protoss epoch. Super write up!!~~ I will be reading everyone on eof these and showing my appreciation to the authors as well....HYPE!!!! love TL.....and love SC2 and super super super LOVE Protoss!!!!

dinosrwar
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November 01 2013 02:12 GMT
#20
sHy! Captain of my FPL team. Gogogogo! I hope he pulls out some crazy build that no one has seen before and wins the whole thing.
LastLemming
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United States38 Posts
November 01 2013 02:21 GMT
#21
These write ups are awesome, go sos!
Shellshock
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United States97276 Posts
November 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#22
I hope sOs has a good Blizzcon but I agree that he'll probably lose to the first terran he meets and unfortunately for him there are going to be quite a few of those in attendance
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esReveR
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United States567 Posts
November 01 2013 02:30 GMT
#23
These stories are really interesting. Keep them coming!
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Darkhorse
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United States23455 Posts
November 01 2013 02:44 GMT
#24
#2! Don't see sOs making it past ro8, which is weird because in June or so I would've called him top 4 easily, maybe even the winner.
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Darkhorse
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United States23455 Posts
November 01 2013 02:44 GMT
#25
On November 01 2013 11:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I can confirm that lichter has been working his ass off. Passion through the roof.

More passion than you fo sho
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Northern Ireland25613 Posts
November 01 2013 03:00 GMT
#26
Sexy writeup man
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November 01 2013 03:02 GMT
#27
This writeup series is sooo good.
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November 01 2013 03:27 GMT
#28
wow these are excellent, <3 TL writers
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hellokitty[hk]
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United States1309 Posts
November 01 2013 03:38 GMT
#29
How to play like SOS? Try really, really, really hard no to build a robo.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
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November 01 2013 03:40 GMT
#30
On November 01 2013 09:56 Aeromi wrote:
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/


He won't, but he can do damage. HerO versus him should be good.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2013 03:56 GMT
#31
On November 01 2013 12:40 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:56 Aeromi wrote:
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/


He won't, but he can do damage. HerO versus him should be good.

Damage to my heart if he beats HerO
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Shellshock
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United States97276 Posts
November 01 2013 03:57 GMT
#32
On November 01 2013 12:56 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 12:40 StarStruck wrote:
On November 01 2013 09:56 Aeromi wrote:
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/


He won't, but he can do damage. HerO versus him should be good.

Damage to my heart if he beats HerO

I have a feeling that it'll go 3-2 either way.
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Canada1109 Posts
November 01 2013 04:00 GMT
#33
Awesome write-up thanks, his VR builds were a thing of beauty.
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Last Edited: 2013-11-01 04:02:54
November 01 2013 04:02 GMT
#34
40 matches - 40 builds ... wow amazing research lichter .. 2 down 14 more to go
this is a quote
Darkhorse
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United States23455 Posts
November 01 2013 04:02 GMT
#35
On November 01 2013 12:57 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 12:56 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 01 2013 12:40 StarStruck wrote:
On November 01 2013 09:56 Aeromi wrote:
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/


He won't, but he can do damage. HerO versus him should be good.

Damage to my heart if he beats HerO

I have a feeling that it'll go 3-2 either way.

Hopefully better than at the season 1 finals.
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Australia69 Posts
November 01 2013 04:26 GMT
#36
Great article lichter
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November 01 2013 04:27 GMT
#37
Cool article!
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November 01 2013 04:28 GMT
#38
The mighty Huk praised you lichter
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November 01 2013 05:19 GMT
#39
Good job with the hype thread!
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United States12612 Posts
November 01 2013 05:30 GMT
#40
Yeaahhh lichter! Great write up keep 'em coming!
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Vronti
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States111 Posts
November 01 2013 05:37 GMT
#41
Impressive write up, I pay little attention to the Protoss stars but this has me looking forward to seeing how he plays at Blizzcon.
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Malaysia2 Posts
November 01 2013 06:48 GMT
#42
Fuck robotics bay!!
better late than never
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United States4064 Posts
November 01 2013 07:23 GMT
#43
wow can't wait for the rest of the installments.
great read!
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November 01 2013 08:12 GMT
#44
is it me or does TL as a site look different now
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holmesgenius
Profile Joined February 2013
Vietnam65 Posts
November 01 2013 08:15 GMT
#45
i think: HerO > sOs
Terran imbalance ---- Zerg wins ---- Protoss advances
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
November 01 2013 08:23 GMT
#46
On November 01 2013 09:56 Aeromi wrote:
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/

well, TBH nobody does
pms
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Poland611 Posts
November 01 2013 08:37 GMT
#47
Loving the mini-predictions. Perfect for to;dr people like me
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
November 01 2013 08:42 GMT
#48
sOs hasn't been at the top of his game since WCS season 1 finals, hope he can still give a strong showing with innovative new builds.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
November 01 2013 08:54 GMT
#49
Another great hype article. I can see myself rooting for almost every player after all the articles are done, which shows the quality of the articles. Please continue.
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 09:43:20
November 01 2013 09:42 GMT
#50
Good read! I love these I really like sOs, even though I don't see him winning Blizzcon I'm sure he will show us some epic strategies Looking forward to that!

On November 01 2013 17:54 Ctesias wrote:
Another great hype article. I can see myself rooting for almost every player after all the articles are done, which shows the quality of the articles. Please continue.


^this
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 01 2013 09:47 GMT
#51
On November 01 2013 13:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
The mighty Huk praised you lichter
https://twitter.com/LorangerChris/status/396130391523741696

i remember when huk flamed me on twitter for not putting his name in the poll for BWC last year
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 01 2013 09:55 GMT
#52
praise the tl writing staff
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44179 Posts
November 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#53
On November 01 2013 18:55 Paljas wrote:
praise the tl writing staff

they are just too epic .. and we get to read 14 more articles like this .. im excited on JD hype
this is a quote
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 01 2013 10:45 GMT
#54
Thanks for the article! sOs still one of my favorite Protosses, hope he can wack out some dudes at Blizzcon!


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HYRULE15
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany72 Posts
November 01 2013 12:03 GMT
#55
This is really well done, thx to the author.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2013 13:21 GMT
#56
On November 01 2013 17:12 DinosaurPoop wrote:
is it me or does TL as a site look different now

You can read about it here
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 01 2013 13:33 GMT
#57
Almost forgot this guy. I hope he does the mass tempest strategy at least once.
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Pockmark
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom23 Posts
November 01 2013 14:21 GMT
#58
Looking forward to Maru . Awesome write up so far!
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
November 01 2013 15:14 GMT
#59
Oh shit!

This retrospective is excellent. I would have never guessed that sOs was such an innovative player if not for the extensive list "40 game, 40 builds".

Thanks a lot for the detective work!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 01 2013 15:15 GMT
#60
On November 01 2013 18:42 Darrkhan wrote:
Good read! I love these I really like sOs, even though I don't see him winning Blizzcon I'm sure he will show us some epic strategies Looking forward to that!

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 17:54 Ctesias wrote:
Another great hype article. I can see myself rooting for almost every player after all the articles are done, which shows the quality of the articles. Please continue.


^this


Got to hype up the players man. TL is doing their job.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 01 2013 15:17 GMT
#61
Any bets on who is next one? My bet is Bomber.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2013 15:17 GMT
#62
On November 02 2013 00:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
Any bets on who is next one? My bet is Bomber.

I'll go Taeja.
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 01 2013 15:35 GMT
#63
sOs has one of the most entertaining styles. Protoss has come a long way. I hope he does well at blizzcon but with out knocking out Mvp or Naniwa :o
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
November 01 2013 15:39 GMT
#64
Nice writeups pretty fun to read
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MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
November 01 2013 15:43 GMT
#65
Maru will win. Time stamp this post. Taking bets, PM me.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
November 01 2013 15:45 GMT
#66
On November 02 2013 00:43 MrRicewife wrote:
Maru will win. Time stamp this post. Taking bets, PM me.


This has been done before.

On October 26 2013 02:21 TT1 wrote:
maru is gonna win wcs, i give u permission to requote this in 1-2 days

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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
November 01 2013 16:09 GMT
#67
On November 01 2013 17:23 SorrowShine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:56 Aeromi wrote:
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/

well, TBH nobody does

I'd put him about in the middle in terms of overall skill, but the lack of Zergs and abundance of Terrans does make his outlook a bit bleak.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
November 01 2013 16:54 GMT
#68
Calling Mr. Chargelot "cutting edge" is hilariously clever--well played OP well written too
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Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
November 01 2013 16:56 GMT
#69
I can't describe how hyped these write ups are making me. Cannot. fucking. wait.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 16:58:34
November 01 2013 16:58 GMT
#70
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 01 2013 17:18 GMT
#71
On November 02 2013 01:56 Pazuzu wrote:
I can't describe how hyped these write ups are making me. Cannot. fucking. wait.

this. a thousand times this!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Kramer
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania73 Posts
November 01 2013 18:27 GMT
#72
I guess the tournament setting is optimal for a great performance by sOs.

At the same time I hope Hero wins.
I believe!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#73
On November 02 2013 01:58 The_Templar wrote:
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^

I, for one go with how far player fell after his success. It started with Mvp, moved on to sOs, it only makes sense to do Bomber now. I have no clue who will go next, Revival perhaps?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 01 2013 19:07 GMT
#74
On November 02 2013 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 01:58 The_Templar wrote:
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^

I, for one go with how far player fell after his success. It started with Mvp, moved on to sOs, it only makes sense to do Bomber now. I have no clue who will go next, Revival perhaps?


Sorry to disappoint but I don't think we're doing them in any particular order besides which one is good enough to be published at the time
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
November 01 2013 19:50 GMT
#75
very well written article nicely done! and you re watched 40 games you maniac i barley have time to keep up with wcs
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2013 19:54 GMT
#76
On November 02 2013 04:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:58 The_Templar wrote:
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^

I, for one go with how far player fell after his success. It started with Mvp, moved on to sOs, it only makes sense to do Bomber now. I have no clue who will go next, Revival perhaps?


Sorry to disappoint but I don't think we're doing them in any particular order besides which one is good enough to be published at the time

Oh so revival and alive last then?
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 01 2013 20:20 GMT
#77
On November 02 2013 04:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:58 The_Templar wrote:
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^

I, for one go with how far player fell after his success. It started with Mvp, moved on to sOs, it only makes sense to do Bomber now. I have no clue who will go next, Revival perhaps?


Sorry to disappoint but I don't think we're doing them in any particular order besides which one is good enough to be published at the time

so, Mvp first because stuchiu is cool?
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 01 2013 22:50 GMT
#78
That is a fantastic write up. I've personally always found Sos to be too gimmicky, but reading this, I see him with new eyes and appreciate that he uttered in a new era of protoss play. Thank you very much for this passionate piece!
Get off my lawn, young punks
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 01 2013 23:18 GMT
#79
Where's the next one? You guys are behind schedule
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
November 01 2013 23:40 GMT
#80
wow, the #passion necessary to watch 40 sOs games for this!

lichter saving esports
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 01 2013 23:55 GMT
#81
On November 02 2013 04:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:58 The_Templar wrote:
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^

I, for one go with how far player fell after his success. It started with Mvp, moved on to sOs, it only makes sense to do Bomber now. I have no clue who will go next, Revival perhaps?


Sorry to disappoint but I don't think we're doing them in any particular order besides which one is good enough to be published at the time


Calling 2-for-1 Revival/Naniwa! It allows Revival's indistinctive features to piggyback on Nani
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 02 2013 00:34 GMT
#82
On November 02 2013 05:20 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 04:07 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2013 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:58 The_Templar wrote:
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^

I, for one go with how far player fell after his success. It started with Mvp, moved on to sOs, it only makes sense to do Bomber now. I have no clue who will go next, Revival perhaps?


Sorry to disappoint but I don't think we're doing them in any particular order besides which one is good enough to be published at the time

so, Mvp first because stuchiu is cool?


I just wrote it fastest.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 02 2013 00:36 GMT
#83
On November 02 2013 09:34 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 05:20 Paljas wrote:
On November 02 2013 04:07 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2013 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:58 The_Templar wrote:
Next article I predict is on HerO, then Dear, then Taeja
Because those are players I like, deal with it.
Actually I like about 10-12 players in this tournament ^^

I, for one go with how far player fell after his success. It started with Mvp, moved on to sOs, it only makes sense to do Bomber now. I have no clue who will go next, Revival perhaps?


Sorry to disappoint but I don't think we're doing them in any particular order besides which one is good enough to be published at the time

so, Mvp first because stuchiu is cool?


I just wrote it fastest.

robot devil hands?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 02 2013 01:09 GMT
#84
i need an alive fan, quick.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 02 2013 01:14 GMT
#85
Did you ask Inzan1ty?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 02 2013 01:24 GMT
#86
yeah no reply yet
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 02 2013 01:43 GMT
#87
On November 02 2013 10:09 opterown wrote:
i need an alive fan, quick.

Yo me
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 03:06 GMT
#88
When is next write-up! What is next write-up!
Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
November 02 2013 11:53 GMT
#89
Almost made me a fan, but HerO shall crush him!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 02 2013 11:59 GMT
#90
On November 02 2013 12:06 Pandain wrote:
When is next write-up! What is next write-up!


One could say that it's boring
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EasyLemon
Profile Joined December 2012
Latvia5 Posts
November 02 2013 13:20 GMT
#91
Im sorry - random question - what is the name of a headset in the photo?
asdf
prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
November 02 2013 14:38 GMT
#92
i asked that several times too i think it looks awesome

i would also appreciate an answer to what headset sos wears on the photo
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#93
I don't know what particular brand they are, but they are noise cancelling headphones. If you can find me some more pics I can probably figure it out.
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EasyLemon
Profile Joined December 2012
Latvia5 Posts
November 02 2013 15:58 GMT
#94
http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2013/October/131014/8C9358737-naniwa.blocks_desktop_large.jpg
http://www.gosugamers.net/files/images/StarCraft 2/October 2013/Life-KevinFlorenzano-ESL.jpg
asdf
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 02 2013 16:20 GMT
#95
Here you go guys

http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/gamecom-commander
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Sloxify
Profile Joined July 2011
United States15 Posts
November 02 2013 19:13 GMT
#96
Great write-up!
If I lose it's because I wasn't playing good enough to win (why is irrelevant) or because my opponent was simply superior. I accept it, improve and try to win next time.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 03 2013 11:15 GMT
#97
I hope he does well. He's got very original builds and has a great decision making too.
prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
November 03 2013 20:44 GMT
#98
thanx a lot for the information bout the headset, loveya <3
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BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
November 04 2013 04:20 GMT
#99
great article!
[Woongjin Stars]
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
November 04 2013 17:31 GMT
#100
It's bugging me that the postcount for this article is only 98.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 04 2013 17:46 GMT
#101
On November 05 2013 02:31 LockeTazeline wrote:
It's bugging me that the postcount for this article is only 98.

I agree, each one should have at least 100.
Will be difficult when 10 articles are coming out at the same time...
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 04 2013 17:54 GMT
#102
This is the least emotional write up and the most research paper ish so duh
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VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 14:58:55
November 05 2013 14:52 GMT
#103
Yeah, Rain invented the solid defensive play, MC invented the Sentry rushes and busts and the backdoor Oracle-play.. Parting invented/improved the Soul/Train, and maybe the mass Stalker blink play (though I think the master there is San himself at it).. And everything else that now Protoss players use is sOs play (except TLHerO o.f.c. the guy is totally bonkerz with his Phoenix thing.. )

Still - point is that thanks to sOs - Protoss is in a very good state.. Trouble is that it lasted short enough for people to remember him (except those who do or at least try to copy his builds).. In the last META episode Naniwa himself (though it doesn't mean it was true-hartedly meant) thanked sOs for the builds he gave..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
November 05 2013 15:08 GMT
#104
HerO invented the warp prism, it didn't exist before

To me sOs is the inventor of "why is he doing this wtf is he thinki--- yeah I knew it would work"
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 05 2013 15:10 GMT
#105
San invented sentry drops. HerO just took San's invention and added to it
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 02:34:19
November 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#106
(from the interview thread)
(P)sOs:
In particular, there's a possibility that I'll bring out some strategies that will really shock the fans. I've been working hard on showing new strategies that I've worked hard to optimise as much as possible.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 06 2013 02:36 GMT
#107
creator invented forges man
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Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
November 06 2013 02:51 GMT
#108
On November 06 2013 11:33 LockeTazeline wrote:
(from the interview thread)
(P)sOs:
Show nested quote +
In particular, there's a possibility that I'll bring out some strategies that will really shock the fans. I've been working hard on showing new strategies that I've worked hard to optimise as much as possible.

Blink stalkers + Probes pull? Turtle to carriers? Archons drop?
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
November 06 2013 02:58 GMT
#109
sOs popularized Void Ray/DT
0mg_t1red
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation104 Posts
November 09 2013 19:57 GMT
#110
gogo SOS almost there!
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 10 2013 01:41 GMT
#111
Those 40 games with 10000 builds sure showed themselves in this tournament! sOs fighting!
jjakji fan
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Profile Joined February 2013
United States20 Posts
November 10 2013 03:01 GMT
#112
Well he found some inspiration for Blizzcon
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 10 2013 03:03 GMT
#113
Glad to see the Innovator of Protoss Violence is back.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 10 2013 03:09 GMT
#114
not bad sOs
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ogsgodlike
Profile Joined March 2013
Bulgaria31 Posts
November 10 2013 10:39 GMT
#115
On November 01 2013 09:56 Aeromi wrote:
sOs is a strong player but I don't see him winning Blizzcon. :/

What you say???:D:D:D
There can be only one..IMMvp..!!!!
anessie
Profile Joined August 2011
180 Posts
November 10 2013 11:30 GMT
#116
On November 01 2013 09:50 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Outlook for Blizzcon

Mini predictions:
  • sOs will use Chargelot+Archon at least once vs every race
  • His PvP’s will average only 12 minutes
  • Out against the first Terran he meets


3-1 (T)Polt
3-1 (T)Bomber

Guess his pvt wasn't that bad !
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
November 10 2013 23:15 GMT
#117
On November 06 2013 11:33 LockeTazeline wrote:
(from the interview thread)
(P)sOs:
Show nested quote +
In particular, there's a possibility that I'll bring out some strategies that will really shock the fans. I've been working hard on showing new strategies that I've worked hard to optimise as much as possible.


Damn, now the finals suddenly makes sense haha
Cute
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
November 10 2013 23:18 GMT
#118
The greatest thing about sOs winning is that he will never again be seen as a "faceless" unknown player.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 10 2013 23:19 GMT
#119
On November 11 2013 08:15 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 11:33 LockeTazeline wrote:
(from the interview thread)
(P)sOs:
In particular, there's a possibility that I'll bring out some strategies that will really shock the fans. I've been working hard on showing new strategies that I've worked hard to optimise as much as possible.


Damn, now the finals suddenly makes sense haha

what a beast, prepared builds to play all the way to the finals (could be just that the final was the only PvZ he played, but whatever. Still amazing )
jjakji fan
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 10 2013 23:27 GMT
#120
As someone who didn't really know sOs too well pre-Blizzcon, this article is really accurate and well written looking back on it now after watching his WCS final games. Good job lichter
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
November 10 2013 23:29 GMT
#121
On November 11 2013 08:27 Grobyc wrote:
As someone who didn't really know sOs too well pre-Blizzcon, this article is really accurate and well written looking back on it now after watching his WCS final games. Good job lichter


the article is good, but he hugely underestimated how good sOs has gotten at PvT.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 10 2013 23:34 GMT
#122
On November 11 2013 08:29 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 08:27 Grobyc wrote:
As someone who didn't really know sOs too well pre-Blizzcon, this article is really accurate and well written looking back on it now after watching his WCS final games. Good job lichter


the article is good, but he hugely underestimated how good sOs has gotten at PvT.

I think everyone did that though I mean, 6-2 against Bomber and Polt? You'd be hard pressed to predict any Protoss player to pull that off.
jjakji fan
prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
November 16 2013 12:07 GMT
#123
haha i predicted him to win, so proud now^^
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 16 2013 12:13 GMT
#124
Not to take anything away from sOs, he played great. However in the games against Bomber, I felt him coming back was more Bomber trowing it more then sOs's genius. In particular, on the Derelict game, Bomber was very far ahead, but failed to read into sOs's plans, failed to take a 3rd sooner and propel his economy while sOs was unable to deal with it.
Failed to drop sOs when he realized he was dealing with a chargelot archon comp, which is bad at scouting/map awareness as well as poor in the units that can deal with drops efficiently.
And then he insisted on being out on the map when he didn't need too, and lost too much HP on his army due to overstiming.

So, I think it might be you guys that are overestimating just how good sOs has gotten at PvT. Yes it takes a good player to be able to make good reads and play to his strengths to come back, but it also takes a failure on his opponent's part for there to be any hope.

And Bomber made several large mistakes.
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