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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 09 2013 22:36 GMT
#61
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote:
Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.

Sniped :o


Pigbaby cheesy pig.
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tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
August 09 2013 23:34 GMT
#62
wow, first life now Leenock. Its a new age
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 10 2013 00:30 GMT
#63
On August 10 2013 08:34 tjtombo wrote:
wow, first life now Leenock. Its a new age

It's ok DRG will represent for the WoL zergs (he has to considering NesTea isn't even in WCS Korea and life and Leenock are code a.)
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Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
August 10 2013 01:42 GMT
#64
On August 09 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote:
no nestea award for leenock

sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.

If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.


"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^"
- Mr Chae 2013

And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.

Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.

I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.



DRG an MKP did NOT qualify for osl, so why count leenock and give them a free pass?? thats bs too.
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
August 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#65
On August 09 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote:
no nestea award for leenock

sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.

If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.


"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^"
- Mr Chae 2013

And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.

Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.

I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.


"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.

The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.
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H0bgawblin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States109 Posts
August 10 2013 03:20 GMT
#66
On August 10 2013 11:27 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote:
no nestea award for leenock

sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.

If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.


"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^"
- Mr Chae 2013

And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.

Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.

I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.


"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.

The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.



The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.

The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 10 2013 03:25 GMT
#67
Pigbaby!~!!!!!!!!!!! gogo Jin Air
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TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
August 10 2013 03:27 GMT
#68
On August 10 2013 05:34 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:54 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote:
Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.

Oh and for this..

On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote:
Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:


How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?



You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.

On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote:
It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.

So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )

As if he could control it being Starleague?

And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.

Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.


Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.

And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD


I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"


Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.


Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.


lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
August 10 2013 07:15 GMT
#69
sad for Leenock...
sunless
Profile Joined November 2011
62 Posts
August 10 2013 07:40 GMT
#70
On August 10 2013 12:27 TronJovolta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 05:34 StarStruck wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:54 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote:
Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.

Oh and for this..

On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote:
Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:


How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?



You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.

On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote:
It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.

So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )

As if he could control it being Starleague?

And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.

Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.


Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.

And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD


I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"


Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.


Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.


lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.


On August 10 2013 07:36 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote:
Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.

Sniped :o


Pigbaby cheesy pig.


So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 10 2013 09:28 GMT
#71
On August 10 2013 12:20 H0bgawblin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:27 Monochromatic wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote:
no nestea award for leenock

sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.

If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.


"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^"
- Mr Chae 2013

And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.

Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.

I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.


"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.

The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.



The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.

The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.

This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.

We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.

As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.

It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..

It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#72
On August 10 2013 18:28 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:20 H0bgawblin wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:27 Monochromatic wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote:
no nestea award for leenock

sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.

If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.


"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^"
- Mr Chae 2013

And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.

Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.

I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.


"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.

The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.



The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.

The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.

This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.

We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.

As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.

It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..

It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..


WCS America was not MLG though. Nor NASL. It was just WCS America.

Blizzard chose to make the distinction between WCS Korea GSL and WCS Korea OSL, not just in terms of who organizes it. Poor analogy imo.

And no matter what you say or think, it is NOT the same tournament. And I find it very laughable that you say "everyone agrees" when in this very thread people disagree and make the distinction.
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 10 2013 10:40 GMT
#73
On August 10 2013 18:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:28 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:20 H0bgawblin wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:27 Monochromatic wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote:
no nestea award for leenock

sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.

If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.


"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^"
- Mr Chae 2013

And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.

Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.

I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.


"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.

The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.



The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.

The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.

This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.

We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.

As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.

It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..

It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..


WCS America was not MLG though. Nor NASL. It was just WCS America.

Blizzard chose to make the distinction between WCS Korea GSL and WCS Korea OSL, not just in terms of who organizes it. Poor analogy imo.

And no matter what you say or think, it is NOT the same tournament. And I find it very laughable that you say "everyone agrees" when in this very thread people disagree and make the distinction.

Leenock qualified for his 10th season through GOM's up and downs into Code S.
Reread this part until you get it.

He actually did qualify 10 seasons in a row, in GOM's rules and laws. It wasn't OGNs Up and Downs. And then AFTER he did it for 10 seasons in a row with GOM's rules he still won't get rewarded because he just happened to qualify for OSL (yet once again, 10 seasons with GOMs rules) that season that was completely out of his power.

If he could have chosen between qualifying for OSL or GSL that season he would have gotten the award. Because he did it through GOM's qualification system for his 10th season. He did what was required 9 seasons in a row and then requalify with GOMs rules into Code S for his 10th season. The Code S just happened to be OSL that time because Blizzard made WCS. How can you not say he got fucked by higher powers?

"Oh you played in the DreamHack qualifier and qualified? Shame we changed it to Kenyas superlan and there is nothing you can do about it."
Better analogy?
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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:07 GMT
#74
On August 10 2013 19:40 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 18:28 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:20 H0bgawblin wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:27 Monochromatic wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote:
no nestea award for leenock

sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.

If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.


"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^"
- Mr Chae 2013

And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.

Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.

I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.


"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.

The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.



The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.

The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.

This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.

We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.

As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.

It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..

It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..


WCS America was not MLG though. Nor NASL. It was just WCS America.

Blizzard chose to make the distinction between WCS Korea GSL and WCS Korea OSL, not just in terms of who organizes it. Poor analogy imo.

And no matter what you say or think, it is NOT the same tournament. And I find it very laughable that you say "everyone agrees" when in this very thread people disagree and make the distinction.

Leenock qualified for his 10th season through GOM's up and downs into Code S.
Reread this part until you get it.

He actually did qualify 10 seasons in a row, in GOM's rules and laws. It wasn't OGNs Up and Downs. And then AFTER he did it for 10 seasons in a row with GOM's rules he still won't get rewarded because he just happened to qualify for OSL (yet once again, 10 seasons with GOMs rules) that season that was completely out of his power.

If he could have chosen between qualifying for OSL or GSL that season he would have gotten the award. Because he did it through GOM's qualification system for his 10th season. He did what was required 9 seasons in a row and then requalify with GOMs rules into Code S for his 10th season. The Code S just happened to be OSL that time because Blizzard made WCS. How can you not say he got fucked by higher powers?

"Oh you played in the DreamHack qualifier and qualified? Shame we changed it to Kenyas superlan and there is nothing you can do about it."
Better analogy?


Yeah I kinda agree. It would be quite obnoxious if MKP/DRG gets the award while Leenock doesn't.
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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:08 GMT
#75
On August 10 2013 16:40 sunless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:27 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:34 StarStruck wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:54 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote:
Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.

Oh and for this..

On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote:
Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:


How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?



You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.

On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote:
It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.

So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )

As if he could control it being Starleague?

And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.

Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.


Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.

And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD


I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"


Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.


Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.


lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.


Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 07:36 painkilla wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote:
Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.

Sniped :o


Pigbaby cheesy pig.


So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)


He cheesed the shit out of Ragnarok in code A too (soul train and then proxy gates).
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Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 14:55:02
August 11 2013 14:54 GMT
#76
On August 10 2013 16:40 sunless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:27 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:34 StarStruck wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:54 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote:
Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.

Oh and for this..

On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote:
Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:


How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?



You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.

On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote:
It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.

So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )

As if he could control it being Starleague?

And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.

Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.


Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.

And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD


I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"


Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.


Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.


lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.


Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 07:36 painkilla wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote:
Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.

Sniped :o


Pigbaby cheesy pig.


So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)

what's wrong with cheese build ? LOL cheesy or macro, it doesn't matter with pro gamers because their aim is the victories. It's not platinum or gold league ladder games but pro gamers level
@taefoxy
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 12 2013 20:18 GMT
#77
On August 11 2013 23:54 Porishan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 16:40 sunless wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:27 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:34 StarStruck wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:54 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote:
Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.

Oh and for this..

On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote:
Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:


How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?



You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.

On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote:
It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.

So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )

As if he could control it being Starleague?

And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.

Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.


Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.

And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD


I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"


Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.


Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.


lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.


On August 10 2013 07:36 painkilla wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote:
Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.

Sniped :o


Pigbaby cheesy pig.


So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)

what's wrong with cheese build ? LOL cheesy or macro, it doesn't matter with pro gamers because their aim is the victories. It's not platinum or gold league ladder games but pro gamers level


Nothing wrong with cheese build. But if all you do is cheese then ppl will call you cheesy.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 12 2013 20:29 GMT
#78
On August 10 2013 12:27 TronJovolta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 05:34 StarStruck wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:54 TronJovolta wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote:
Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.

Oh and for this..

On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote:
Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:


How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?



You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.

On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote:
It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.

So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )

As if he could control it being Starleague?

And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.

Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.


Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.

And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD


I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"


Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.


Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.


lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.


Mediocre? Pwease. This guy's been on a rampage for T8 for a while and where the heck you think? Look at the LRs and bets on the gaming sites. He was a heavy favorite to make it out. Nice attempt at a jab, but it is you who are in fact clueless. Watch more SC2, thx.
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