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TL.net ESPORTS
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P7GAB
Canada486 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Moobutt
United States1996 Posts
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
These two teams, starting way back in the beginning of this season, I don't think would have stood out as the two best in the league. Really excited to see what they can show us. | ||
sLiMpoweR
United States430 Posts
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United States134 Posts
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Korea (South)2066 Posts
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Israel1526 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
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FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
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alone
Poland410 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:18 Oukka wrote: Is it just a best of one? :o (yes, I am a SC2 person :D) And sick matches incoming ![]() Yeah, bo1. | ||
Caffeine0212
United States22 Posts
BrAvO > Mini Soulkey < INnoVation sOs > Dear free < hyvaa ZerO < Trap Flying <Classic 2-4 STX wins | ||
SoFrOsTy
United States525 Posts
poor performance vs Maru. He played spectacularly bad against Maru. Cool line up. I feel like I haven't seen zero in a while. I'm excited to see how he plays. | ||
edlover420
349 Posts
BrAvO < Mini Soulkey < INnoVation sOs < Dear free > hyvaa ZerO < Trap 1-4 STX wins | ||
Caffeine0212
United States22 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:21 SoFrOsTy wrote: I hope innovation isn't too rattled after his... + Show Spoiler + poor performance vs Maru. He played spectacularly bad against Maru. Cool line up. I feel like I haven't seen zero in a while. I'm excited to see how he plays. Innovation doesn't care Ro4 WCS korea... he wants Proleague finals and WCS season finals championship :D | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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forsakeNXE
Germany539 Posts
Hope that INnoVation is in good shape against soulkey after that loss against maru... ![]() | ||
ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
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thepaz
France31 Posts
Soulkey < Innovation Sos < Dear Free > Hyvaa Zero > Trap Flying < Classic Stx wins 4-2! | ||
ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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banjoetheredskin
United States744 Posts
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nobot87
United States23 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19246 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ACE <Naro Station> ACE edit: Wow WJS got really good match ups. If soulkey wins it will be a blow out. | ||
xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
(Z)Soulkey <Whirlwind> (T)INnoVation (P)sOs <Korhal Floating Island> (P)Dear (P)free <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)hyvaa (Z)ZerO <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (P)Trap (P)Flying <Neo Planet S>(P)Classic stx wins 4-2 . my predictions | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:32 Zealously wrote: They should probably send out Bravo against Innovation if it goes to the ace match bullshit. they should DROP THE HAMMER!!! he actually looked ok vs Flash and JangBi. If they injected some macro into his skill set... but I guess he could just cheese | ||
Pazuzu
United States632 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19246 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:30 forsakeNXE wrote: + Show Spoiler [OSL Spoiler] + Hope that INnoVation is in good shape against soulkey after that loss against maru... ![]() Please update your spoiler tag to this. I thought you just spoiler-ed predictions for STX vs WJS ![]() | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:23 Caffeine0212 wrote: Innovation doesn't care Ro4 WCS korea... he wants Proleague finals and WCS season finals championship :D Simply not true. Straight from his mouth: I don't think I'm going to lose any practice time just because we have a Proleague finals coming up. I plan on preparing extensively for both tournaments. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Damn. Soulkey vs Innovation has the potential to be awesome but I still think it's bad for WJS. wish they could burn a weaker player on him and use Soulkey to pick up a win somewhere else. Gotta hope for the Soulkey upset, now. Yea, it's perfect clash for STX unless Soulkey will come up with something surprising. Generally it looks good for STX. | ||
Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
BrAvO <Akilon Wastes> Mini Soulkey <Whirlwind> INnoVation sOs <Korhal Floating Island> Dear free <Bel'Shir Vestige> hyvaa ZerO <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> Trap Flying <Neo Planet S> Classic Light <Naro Station> Innovation (Ok, I guess Soulkey will go to ace and then lose to Inno, but this would be more awesome :p) Also, I can see ZerO easily winning vs Trap, cause he is actually REALLY good, but Trap has a VERY scary PvZ (even hotugh I think he is not very good player besides that PvZ..) | ||
logic13
Sweden128 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:46 Ammanas wrote: Sick, cannot wait! It is obvious WJS gave much though to the lineups. Predictions: BrAvO <Akilon Wastes> Mini Soulkey <Whirlwind> INnoVation sOs <Korhal Floating Island> Dear free <Bel'Shir Vestige> hyvaa ZerO <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> Trap Flying <Neo Planet S> Classic Light <Naro Station> Innovation (Ok, I guess Soulkey will go to ace and then lose to Inno, but this would be more awesome :p) Also, I can see ZerO easily winning vs Trap, cause he is actually REALLY good, but Trap has a VERY scary PvZ (even hotugh I think he is not very good player besides that PvZ..) Does the format allow for the ace player to be someone who hasn't played in the previous 6 games? I remember the format for one of the previous seasons or rounds didn't allow that. | ||
Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:49 bourne117 wrote: Why is it going from bo3 to bo1 for the finals? Seems like moving in the wrong direction. Because of the hype. The grand finals are exactly what it is - the grand finals. One match with everything on the line. You either win, or you fail. It creates more tension and the players have more to play for and more pressure on them. They know why they do it for 10 years already :p | ||
Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
Best game of 2013 or hots | ||
figq
12519 Posts
i had some doubts about Soulkey-Innovation, so originally predicted 4-1, but meh, bogus is down | ||
invisigoat
184 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:11 P7GAB wrote: soulkey vs innovation gonna be siiick Yeah and chances are we're gonna see it twice :D | ||
Xpace
United States2209 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:32 Zealously wrote: They should probably send out Bravo against Innovation if it goes to the ace match That's what I was thinking but no, BrAvO is not good enough I think. But at least sOs because INnoVation v Z is too strong. | ||
vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:54 figq wrote: 4-0 easy incoming i had some doubts about Soulkey-Innovation, so originally predicted 4-1, but meh, bogus is down I agree, STX 4-0 stomp. | ||
vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:58 Boucot wrote: That's what I was thinking but no, BrAvO is not good enough I think. But at least sOs because INnoVation v Z is too strong. sOs still having nightmares about Season 1 World Finals. | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:46 Ammanas wrote: Sick, cannot wait! It is obvious WJS gave much though to the lineups. Predictions: BrAvO <Akilon Wastes> Mini Soulkey <Whirlwind> INnoVation sOs <Korhal Floating Island> Dear free <Bel'Shir Vestige> hyvaa ZerO <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> Trap Flying <Neo Planet S> Classic Light <Naro Station> Innovation (Ok, I guess Soulkey will go to ace and then lose to Inno, but this would be more awesome :p) Also, I can see ZerO easily winning vs Trap, cause he is actually REALLY good, but Trap has a VERY scary PvZ (even hotugh I think he is not very good player besides that PvZ..) I think Light being Ace would be really cool. I can actually see it happening. Their best shot at beating Innovation in an Ace match is simply sniping him with a strong TvT build. Innovation will need to dedicate most his practice vs Z since Soulkey is too good. Basically sending out Light in ace would allow both him and Soulkey to practice one map one matchup. | ||
hai2u
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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Ctesias
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Ahli
Germany355 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:52 Nerevar wrote: Does the format allow for the ace player to be someone who hasn't played in the previous 6 games? I remember the format for one of the previous seasons or rounds didn't allow that. Well it happened in regular season, I guess it can also happen in playoffs. If they didn't change some rules for playoffs, but I don't think there is any reason to. On July 31 2013 03:13 Die4Ever wrote: the finals match is shorter than the other playoff matches? never heard of a format like that The most prestigious/biggest sports competition in the world - UEFA Champion's League. | ||
SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:53 Ammanas wrote: Because of the hype. The grand finals are exactly what it is - the grand finals. One match with everything on the line. You either win, or you fail. It creates more tension and the players have more to play for and more pressure on them. They know why they do it for 10 years already :p They switch around sometimes tho. SKT vs Oz was Bo3 a few years ago. | ||
scr
Hungary1025 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
Bo1 seems a bit weird, but I think Soulkey v Innovation will be sick (hopefully twice) | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:36 scr wrote: am i seeing this wrong, or bogus vs SK quickly became the new DRG vs MKP? it does appear to be the new ZvT matchup of titans that keeps happening a lot | ||
trada
Germany347 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
common bogus | ||
Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:32 SamirDuran wrote: maybe this is the reason why bogus lost his ro4 match. PL is more important to them No, Innovation said he was preparing extensively for both of them, and even that PL would not hinder his OSL practice (subtle difference from OSL not hindering PL practice). | ||
sacade
166 Posts
Soulkey < INnoVation sOs > Dear free > hyvaa ZerO < Trap Flying < Classic BrAvO < INnoVation BrAvO 2 rax INnoVation who doesn't CC first. 3-4 STX wins edit: in Bel'Shir Vestige maybe hyvaa can win so I think it will end 4-2 fot STX | ||
KnadRa
United States56 Posts
My body is ready | ||
Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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pink_moon
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On July 31 2013 02:49 bourne117 wrote: Why is it going from bo3 to bo1 for the finals? Seems like moving in the wrong direction. Finals have been bo1 due to its unique venue, cost, and general excitement. | ||
shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
This should be a great final,both team have a good rooster and both team aligned the best (aslo soulkey vs inno :D) BrAvO < Mini Soulkey < INnoVation sOs > Dear free > hyvaa ZerO > Trap Flying > Classic GO WJS you've been the best since s1 you deserve it ! | ||
DusTerr
2520 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:56 pink_moon wrote: Finals have been bo1 due to its unique venue, cost, and general excitement. Thanks for the info - I'm certainly quite excited :D | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:59 shid0x wrote: Ohh BrAvO instead of light ? I wasn't expecting that ! This should be a great final,both team have a good rooster and both team aligned the best (aslo soulkey vs inno :D) BrAvO < Mini Soulkey < INnoVation sOs > Dear free > hyvaa ZerO > Trap Flying > Classic GO WJS you've been the best since s1 you deserve it ! Light is so weak vs Protoss that I thin it makes sense with the number of toss STX uses. Light only has a 33% win rate vs toss in SC2 http://www.aligulac.com/players/1707-Light/ and STX is pretty much guaranteed to use 4 protoss per match so it's a pretty big chance he would probably just lose if he came out edit: actually I just found out Bravo is horrible against Protoss, too. http://www.aligulac.com/players/722-BrAvO/ I guess Bravo looks better in practice? | ||
{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
pls dont let the 1man team win the PL!^^ | ||
atmosphere23
United States3 Posts
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On July 31 2013 04:25 atmosphere23 wrote: Surprised Trap wasn't sent for a PvP Both teams pick their line-ups blind. They only know the map order. | ||
Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
If i had to bet i'd still go for STX just because of innovation. Just too good of an ace for a potential ace match since WJS lacks a good terran to snipe him there. If it comes to an ace WJS probably still goes with SK or SoS which i'd heavily favor innovation against. I don't think innovation will be too much influenced by his humiliating defeat in WCS, he only has to focus on this now. | ||
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InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On July 31 2013 04:25 atmosphere23 wrote: Surprised Trap wasn't sent for a PvP Trap's best matchup is actually PvZ - more then 70% iirc. | ||
SneX
Sweden377 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2013 04:53 Ammanas wrote: Trap's best matchup is actually PvZ - more then 70% iirc. 78% in HoTS O.o http://aligulac.com/players/177/results/?after=&before=&race=z&nats=all&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS | ||
psiANIDe
Korea (South)47 Posts
I'm just hoping that Innovation is back to top form in time. If not could be an easy victory for WJS. That Soulkey vs Innovation game should be ridiculously good regardless. | ||
tl2212
Belize731 Posts
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Aiobhill
Germany283 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Baumbart
Germany17 Posts
Soulkey > INnoVation sOs > Dear free < hyvaa ZerO > Trap Flying < Classic Ace Match: Soulkey > Innovation WJS 4:3 STX | ||
Seporo
France61 Posts
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juicyjames
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United States3815 Posts
BrAvO et al. 0-0 mini et al. | ||
sacade
166 Posts
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TruEcz
Czech Republic25 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ace match: ![]() ![]() Yeah, right. Soulkey gets revenge in Ace match. Wouldn't it be awesome? | ||
Philozovic
France1677 Posts
I don't really know what Bravo really worth but Mini is kind of bad in PvT and Akilon is slighty T favored. Tough call. (Z)Soulkey < (T)INnoVation Team Bogus (P)sOs > (P)Dear SoS is a PvP Beast. (P)free < (Z)hyvaa Free isn't that good at PvZ hyvaa is gonna cheese the hell out of him I guess (Z)ZerO < (P)Trap Trap doesn't lose against Zerg and newkirk is slighty P favored (P)Flying > (P)Classic Really hard to call I'm betting on Flying for the sake of ACE MATCH more freaking bogus ! Soulkey < Bogus STX SOUL 4-3 | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
Ofcourse if they do go to ace match the last map is very possible that they expect innovation to play and prepare a super cheese strat for him. I think it will be close but WJS will take it. | ||
NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
Soulkey <Whirlwind> INnoVation sOs <Korhal Floating Island> Dear free <Bel'Shir Vestige> hyvaa ZerO <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> Trap Flying <Neo Planet S> Classic Unless they prepare really sick cheeses, I'm almost sure Bravo and Zero are gonna lose their games. Games 2, 3 and 4 could go either way I think. Classic > Flying. | ||
havok55
United States276 Posts
On July 31 2013 06:16 Chairman Ray wrote: Last time Woongjin met STX in the post-season, it didn't go well for STX. Let's see if this will be a repeat. That was then. STX has proved they've got what it takes to take the championship. Great games against SKT and completely crushing KT. They're on cloud 9. | ||
sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
I think woongjin is gonna win 4-2 or 4-3 sOs zero and flying gonna do it and I see a chance for soulkey as well | ||
lookfirewood
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DrBeansy
England85 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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k3n705
Canada134 Posts
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rift
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PerSe
United Kingdom550 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:01 DrBeansy wrote: why are people excited to see innovation vs soulkey? innovation will just destroy him again.... cant see it being that much of a game. too many fan boys getting over excited i think Because the best ZvT player versus the best TvZ player is a world class match up? Because SK actually has a winning record against Innovation on whirlwind? (2-0 iirc?). Because SK is the most likely zerg in the world to be able to make Innovation the TvZ beast bleed in a macro game? | ||
asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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Walnuts
United States770 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:22 asdfOu wrote: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() can i dream? Having Innovation lose twice would be just like the BW proleague where Flash lost to both Fantasy and Bisu to have SKT T1 win it all. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Soulkey < Innovation Sos > Dear Free < Hyvaa Zero > Trap Flying > Classic WJS 4-2 | ||
jeri
Germany335 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:13 justiceknight wrote: is this the 1st time either STX/WS gonna win a PL? for wj yes imho, stx have won once i think. | ||
Darthsanta13
United States564 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:04 k3n705 wrote: Why only bo1? Seconding this. It seems bizarre. I guess the thought process is that it condenses all of the showiness and drama of the finals into one night? But if that's the case, why have the other playoff rounds be anything other than bo1? Seems really really silly to me. | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:13 justiceknight wrote: is this the 1st time either STX/WS gonna win a PL? Woongjin has a PL win under their belt already. ![]() | ||
docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:38 Walnuts wrote: Having Innovation lose twice would be just like the BW proleague where Flash lost to both Fantasy and Bisu to have SKT T1 win it all. And wasn't that a beautiful ace match to end BW ![]() In this case, it's the battle of the acronyms lol. | ||
GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:23 Caffeine0212 wrote: Innovation doesn't care Ro4 WCS korea... he wants Proleague finals and WCS season finals championship :D "You have Proleague finals next week. I don't think I'm going to lose any practice time just because we have a Proleague finals coming up. I plan on preparing extensively for both tournaments." | ||
SneX
Sweden377 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:07 PerSe wrote: Because the best ZvT player versus the best TvZ player is a world class match up? Because SK actually has a winning record against Innovation on whirlwind? (2-0 iirc?). Because SK is the most likely zerg in the world to be able to make Innovation the TvZ beast bleed in a macro game? In SPL Round 5 (allkill format) they faced each other on Whirlwind with INnoVation as the winner. He also won on the same map in the code S finals so I think INnoVation has a 2-1 record on that map against SK. I do think the match between them 2 will decide the outcome of the finals. Gogo STX. | ||
xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:04 k3n705 wrote: Why only bo1? the champions league final is a bo1 too. they can make the stadium full easier with a bo1. | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
You would be correct about stx but stars won the SKY 2004 Grand Final. | ||
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digmouse
China6329 Posts
On July 31 2013 08:14 Darthsanta13 wrote: Seconding this. It seems bizarre. I guess the thought process is that it condenses all of the showiness and drama of the finals into one night? But if that's the case, why have the other playoff rounds be anything other than bo1? Seems really really silly to me. Champions League is also BO2 (home and away) till the semifinals, the grand final is a BO1 as well, this format adds the risk of everything on the line and the prestige of winner-takes-all, I don't see a problem with it. Proleague has been like this for like 10 years. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
![]() Okay predictions : BrAvO > Mini Soulkey < INnoVation sOs > Dear free < hyvaa ZerO < Trap Flying < Classic 4 - 2 STX ! GO ! | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 31 2013 07:04 k3n705 wrote: Why only bo1? I hope you realize that's been asked several times and the response has always been the same. | ||
ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
BrAvO > Mini Soulkey < INnoVation sOs < Dear free > hyvaa (go free!, one of last two great dragons) ZerO < Trap (much as I do want ZerO to win) Flying > Classic ACE: Light > INnoVation !!! Woongjin 4-3 Soul | ||
trwkling
658 Posts
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On July 31 2013 08:54 SneX wrote: In SPL Round 5 (allkill format) they faced each other on Whirlwind with INnoVation as the winner. He also won on the same map in the code S finals so I think INnoVation has a 2-1 record on that map against SK. I do think the match between them 2 will decide the outcome of the finals. Gogo STX. I actually think the match between Trap and ZerO will decide the outcome. | ||
Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
On July 31 2013 18:55 Fjodorov wrote: I wonder if woongjin are thinking about sending out a terran for the ace match after yesterdays OSL match. Cant say I have a clue about their terran players but if soulkey is beaten once again by innovation I think it is possible. They have always been bargains in FPL with a couple of great games but never really escaped obscurity. | ||
Seishou
Hong Kong16 Posts
pls SK win please ;_; WJS 4-1 STX | ||
TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Cartman_
119 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On July 31 2013 20:26 Ammanas wrote: I actually think the match between Trap and ZerO will decide the outcome. Yeah, and Zero sucks ass right now so STX will definitely win. | ||
Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On July 31 2013 22:18 NicksonReyes wrote: Yeah, and Zero sucks ass right now so STX will definitely win. That's simply not true at all. ZerO is very good, imo at least at the same level as Hydra. | ||
Negius
Netherlands290 Posts
Soulkey <> INnoVation sOs <> Dear free <> hyvaa ZerO <> Trap Flying <> Classic Soulkey <> INnoVation And then, INnoVation is once again the best in the world... And Soulkey's Soul would have been stolen by STX Soul... Gogo INnoVation! | ||
ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:30 ffadicted wrote: My predictions/dream ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Daaaamn so close | ||
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