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WCS EU Premier Division Groups & Casters Announced - Page 5

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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 19 2013 20:09 GMT
#81
On April 20 2013 04:59 TumNarDok wrote:
Keep in mind that the predictions in % are not equal to the predicted outcome of the dual tournament structure
Plus, some players will better prepare for specific opponents than others wich will change the predicitons in unknown ways.

+ Show Spoiler +

Group A has

ForGG > Bunny
Sase< slivko

ForGG > slivko
Bunny > Sase

slivko < Bunny

ForGG and Bunny advance


Ya, i found that interesting...but i trust sase or slivko to prevail...no offense to bunny
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
April 19 2013 20:09 GMT
#82
My dream is a Naniwa vs Stephano final.
Darg
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland18 Posts
April 19 2013 20:11 GMT
#83
(P)MaNa is killing everyone from the left and right so im sure he will advance, but that (P)Feast (T)MMA and ofc (Z)SortOf

Pretty stock group for sure its the hardest.
Fubb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany160 Posts
April 19 2013 20:11 GMT
#84
does this mean that both Lucifron and Vortix will get out of their groups?

Since one of them has to eliminate the other.
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 19 2013 20:12 GMT
#85
Most of these groups are quite competitive so WTG on that one.

Group A so hard to call, I will root for Bunny.
Group B I have a feeling about HasuObs... may be upset
Group C Damn how the mighty have fallen Thorzain. Well I like Titan and Ret but its insanely close.
Group D Dimaga, so underrated. =( Yeah MVP's got this.
Group E You serious about the 25% chance bro on Shuttle? I never bet against Koreans.
Group F You are dead right Aligulac.
Group G Yes
Group H Too close IMHO. MMA got this. Mana should be second.


ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 19 2013 20:19 GMT
#86
Stephano and Grubby in the same group should be interesting, I'd actually say that Grubby is the favorite over Stephano right now.
Kaelaris and Tod should make this pleasant to watch, looking forward to this!
Are VODs going to be free?
Get off my lawn, young punks
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
April 19 2013 20:23 GMT
#87
Aha, so the theory was correct, this is why ToD forfeited his games vs XlorD in the qualifiers while being up 1-0. Very happy to see him cast! (I'm biased for French accent ofc)
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 19 2013 20:29 GMT
#88
On April 20 2013 04:59 TumNarDok wrote:
Keep in mind that the predictions in % are not equal to the predicted outcome of the dual tournament structure
Plus, some players will better prepare for specific opponents than others wich will change the predicitons in unknown ways.

+ Show Spoiler +

Group A has

ForGG > Bunny
Sase< slivko

ForGG > slivko
Bunny > Sase

slivko < Bunny

ForGG and Bunny advance


Updated to reflect matchup predictions! :D

Aligulac Predictions:

+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
ForGG 84.55% 55.26% 29.29% 9.73% 5.71%
SaSe 42.36% 18.24% 24.13% 29.00% 28.64%
sLivko 42.57% 17.30% 25.28% 29.64% 27.79%
Bunny 30.51% 9.20% 21.31% 31.63% 37.86%

(T)ForGG 2-0 (T)Bunny

(P)SaSe 1-2 (Z)sLivko

(T)ForGG 2-1 (Z)sLivko

(T)Bunny 2-1 (P)SaSe

(Z)sLivko 1-2 (T)Bunny

(T)ForGG and (T)Bunny advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 71.55% 40.86% 30.69% 16.56% 11.89%
Happy 55.48% 26.94% 28.55% 23.81% 20.70%
Bly 44.94% 20.40% 24.54% 29.38% 25.67%
HasuObs 28.03% 11.80% 16.23% 30.24% 41.73%

(T)LucifroN 2-1 (T)Happy

(P)HasuObs 1-2 (Z)Bly

(T)LucifroN 2-1 (Z)Bly

(T)Happy 2-1 (P)HasuObs

(Z)Bly 1-2 (T)Happy

(T)LucifroN and (T)Happy advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
Strelok 59.51% 30.86% 28.65% 22.35% 18.14%
TitaN 56.46% 29.75% 26.71% 22.61% 20.93%
Ret 52.86% 25.80% 27.06% 25.35% 21.79%
ThorZaIN 31.17% 13.59% 17.58% 29.69% 39.14%

(Z)Ret 1–2 (T)Strelok

(T)ThorZaIN 1–2 (P)TitaN

(T)Strelok 1–2 (P)TitaN

(Z)Ret 2–1 (T)ThorZaIN

(T)Strelok 2–1 (Z)Ret

(P)TitaN and (T)Strelok advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
Mvp 82.47% 52.20% 30.27% 10.96% 6.57%
Socke 58.83% 25.79% 33.04% 24.63% 16.54%
Siw 34.03% 13.36% 20.67% 30.76% 35.21%
DIMAGA 24.68% 8.66% 16.02% 33.64% 41.68%

(T)Mvp 2-1 (P)Siw

(P)Socke 2-1 (Z)DIMAGA

(T)Mvp 2-1 (P)Socke

(P)Siw 2-1 (Z)DIMAGA

(P)Socke 2-1 (P)Siw

(T)Mvp and (P)Socke advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

+ Show Spoiler [Group E] +
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
NaNiwa 65.24% 36.19% 29.05% 19.51% 15.25%
Kas 57.03% 27.58% 29.45% 24.90% 18.07%
TLO 52.64% 25.59% 27.05% 25.82% 21.54%
Shuttle 25.09% 10.65% 14.44% 29.78% 45.14%

(P)NaNiwa 2-1 (P)Shuttle

(T)Kas 2-1 (Z)TLO

(P)NaNiwa 2-1 (T)Kas

(P)Shuttle 1-2 (Z)TLO

(T)Kas 2-1 (Z)TLO

Naniwa and (T)Kas advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

+ Show Spoiler [Group F] +
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
VortiX 65.63% 34.64% 30.99% 19.82% 14.55%
Nerchio 63.08% 33.58% 29.50% 20.23% 16.69%
Dayshi 38.93% 15.99% 22.94% 32.79% 28.28%
monchi 32.36% 15.79% 16.58% 27.16% 40.48%

(Z)Nerchio 2-1 (T)Dayshi

(Z)VortiX 2-1 (P)monchi

(Z)Nerchio 2-1 (Z)VortiX

(T)Dayshi 2-1 (P)monchi

(Z)VortiX 2-1 (T)Dayshi

(Z)Nerchio and (Z)VortiX advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

+ Show Spoiler [Group G] +
                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Stephano 82.40% 52.80% 29.59% 10.84% 6.76%
Grubby 50.22% 19.19% 31.03% 28.34% 21.45%
KrasS 34.41% 16.07% 18.33% 27.07% 38.52%
BabyKnight 32.98% 11.93% 21.05% 33.75% 33.28%

(Z)Stephano 2-1 (T)KrasS

(P)Grubby 2-1 (P)BabyKnight

(Z)Stephano 2-0 (P)Grubby

(T)KrasS 1-2 (P)BabyKnight

(P)Grubby 2-1 (P)BabyKnight

(Z)Stephano and (P)Grubby advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

+ Show Spoiler [Group H] +
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
MMA 55.34% 30.33% 25.01% 21.51% 23.15%
SortOf 52.34% 25.34% 27.00% 25.03% 22.63%
Feast 46.43% 22.17% 24.26% 26.75% 26.82%
MaNa 45.89% 22.16% 23.72% 26.70% 27.41%

(T)MMA 2-1 (P)Feast

(P)MaNa 1-2 (Z)SortOf

(T)MMA 2-1 (Z)SortOf

(P)Feast 2-1 (P)MaNa

(Z)SortOf 2-1 (P)Feast

(T)MMA and (Z)SortOf advance!

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 19 2013 20:32 GMT
#89
I'm amazed people think H is best
Refer to my post.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 19 2013 20:32 GMT
#90
so its 1vs4 and 2vs3 first?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 19 2013 20:34 GMT
#91
On April 20 2013 05:32 Zenbrez wrote:
I'm amazed people think H is best

They're pretty even. Which group do you think is best and why is H impossible to be that one?

@Spike: yea
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
April 19 2013 20:35 GMT
#92
SaSe owning GM level Koreans left and right during his 10hr+ practice sessions does not give him any Aligulac points, but tells me he should have a fairly easy time advancing from this group. Though I hope for his sake he's back in Europe when the games are played. Are they played live?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 20:36:29
April 19 2013 20:35 GMT
#93
On April 20 2013 05:32 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
so its 1vs4 and 2vs3 first?


Yes!

Sad that there was no drawing ceremony though, might've made a good show. :'(
Rooting for all my German countrymen!
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 19 2013 20:36 GMT
#94
On April 20 2013 05:11 Darg wrote:
(P)MaNa is killing everyone from the left and right so im sure he will advance, but that (P)Feast (T)MMA and ofc (Z)SortOf

Pretty stock group for sure its the hardest.


E and A are harder imo.

C and D (even though Mvp) probably the weakest groups
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 19 2013 20:37 GMT
#95
Are all of the games played live or are they casting replays?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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CyCo
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium67 Posts
April 19 2013 20:37 GMT
#96
Feast never getting lucky break in group draws
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 19 2013 20:38 GMT
#97
On April 20 2013 05:32 Zenbrez wrote:
I'm amazed people think H is best

Yeah, stupid people. Fortunately you're not like them.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
April 19 2013 20:40 GMT
#98
Hope Shuttle and Forgg do well
Eboceixa
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium60 Posts
April 19 2013 20:40 GMT
#99
Group H will be nice to watch for sure
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 19 2013 20:42 GMT
#100
On April 20 2013 05:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Are all of the games played live or are they casting replays?

I'm obviously not 100% sure but I'd bet most of my belongings on it being live, can't imagine ESL being that stupid.
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