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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 21:37:15
March 20 2013 14:23 GMT
#1
Hi,

my name is Martin Maindl and my ID is crBox. I've been around for a while but never released any replay pack. Since the game is new and people are still experimenting with new strategies, I thought this was a good time to showcase some of my skills.

I am using Swarm Hosts into Corruptors in ZvP,
ZvZ is all muta,
ZvT I mainly use Roach/Hydra into Viper but I've been opening a more Ling/Roach/Bane composition these days, switching into hydra once I have a better economy.

I do stream from time to time. You should definitely watch my FPVODs

For any questions, comments, critics or anything else, feel free to post in this thread or PM me.

Thanks!

Stream link : Twitch.tv/crbox

Replay packs :
Replay Pack #1
Replay Pack #2
arshock
Profile Joined December 2011
Lithuania33 Posts
March 20 2013 19:08 GMT
#2
THANK YOU ! More please !
GhostBusters
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
March 20 2013 19:20 GMT
#3
Awesome, always helps to see other peoples ideas and playstyles.

Thank you sir!
Yut, bellybuttons.
VashtaNerada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States12 Posts
March 20 2013 20:09 GMT
#4
Nice replays!
Don't blink. Don't even blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast, faster than you could believe. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And DON'T. BLINK.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
March 20 2013 20:12 GMT
#5
magic !!! many thanks
Inflictions
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada1 Post
March 20 2013 20:17 GMT
#6
Thank you kindly.
Wpcwe
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Russian Federation126 Posts
March 20 2013 20:18 GMT
#7
very big thanks!
everybody hates wpcwe*
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
March 20 2013 20:19 GMT
#8
need more protoss players doing this! :D
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 20 2013 20:22 GMT
#9
thanks for the feedback guys
DaBarcode
Profile Joined March 2013
2 Posts
March 20 2013 21:32 GMT
#10
can you please for the love of Jasus help me in ZvP, i tried what you did vs desrow, corruptor and swarm host, but it just didn't work for me, i am a diamond zerg
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 20 2013 23:54 GMT
#11
I will be uploading some more replays in this thread every now and then. I'll add some practice games from today (lots of lost vs T) in the OP in a few, stay alert!

On March 21 2013 06:32 DaBarcode wrote:
can you please for the love of Jasus help me in ZvP, i tried what you did vs desrow, corruptor and swarm host, but it just didn't work for me, i am a diamond zerg

Hum well maybe send me a rep via PM and I can try to help you Be more specific, otherwise there's the HotS Zerg Help me Thread that Glon manages (I think)

Stay tuned folks
WCH
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada239 Posts
March 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#12
Thanks, gonna look over them!
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
March 21 2013 02:16 GMT
#13
Can you highlight replays with Swarm Hosts?
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 21 2013 03:23 GMT
#14
I think vs Desrow was SH. Not running into a lot of protosses for now on the ladder, maybe more luck tomorrow, I'll upload those asap.

I renamed the replay files inside the .rar, the pack is very light (approx. 604KB).
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
March 22 2013 16:38 GMT
#15
On March 21 2013 08:54 crbox wrote:
I will be uploading some more replays in this thread every now and then. I'll add some practice games from today (lots of lost vs T) in the OP in a few, stay alert!

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 06:32 DaBarcode wrote:
can you please for the love of Jasus help me in ZvP, i tried what you did vs desrow, corruptor and swarm host, but it just didn't work for me, i am a diamond zerg

Hum well maybe send me a rep via PM and I can try to help you Be more specific, otherwise there's the HotS Zerg Help me Thread that Glon manages (I think)

Stay tuned folks


No one person really "manages" it right now - But I/blade/other zergs frequent it
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
March 22 2013 16:39 GMT
#16
thank crbox
Try another route paperboy.
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
March 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#17
Oh thank god, I've had so much trouble finding zerg replays since hots was released.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 22 2013 21:38 GMT
#18
Just updated the OP with another replay pack and stream link. I've been using muta more in ZvP (either straight to muta or Hydra into muta if they open phoenix.)

cr4ckshot
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States291 Posts
March 22 2013 23:52 GMT
#19
Any other styles in ZvZ? They really buffed Mutas in HotS...

Also, you need perfect aim for fungal growth...
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 23 2013 00:50 GMT
#20
Unfortunately ZvZ is all muta/ling from what I've seen. Maybe some other timings are possible but unless you have one base up and already defended on the muta player, it's really hard to make hydra work even with fungals.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
March 23 2013 01:30 GMT
#21
On March 23 2013 09:50 crbox wrote:
Unfortunately ZvZ is all muta/ling from what I've seen. Maybe some other timings are possible but unless you have one base up and already defended on the muta player, it's really hard to make hydra work even with fungals.


So really muta/ling is just the more solid composition in ZvZ right now? I've been winning some games here and there with roach ling bane attacks (all-inish I guess). The meta-game in Masters isn't all muta/ling from what I've seen but if that's the case in GM then I might make the switch... I'm just afraid of Muta/ling vs Muta/ling, seems really silly lol.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 23 2013 03:37 GMT
#22
humm well before the spire is out everything is possible, I mean you can go for roach bane bust. Thing is if it gets scouted, the muta player can just make 8 spines and wait for mutas to come and then you're pretty much fucked.

Muta ling vs muta ling is fun for me, but if you get behind for some reason it's really hard to come back.
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
March 23 2013 03:41 GMT
#23
can you explain for theory behind ZvT? how do you handle drops with roach hydra? Do you just go for static defense in spines/spores? How is roach/hydra against mmm/widow mines. is it a lot of jousting and picking the perfect engage?

Thank you for your reps!
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 23 2013 03:48 GMT
#24
3 hydras 2 roach per med and some static defense is pretty good, the hardest part is straight up engaging the terran. Obviously I meant Roach Hydra / Viper when Hive is done. You need to keep the medivac count low by abducting them and also blinding cloud to force better position. It's really hard to win with it against good terran though so I've been trying more muta ling bane aggressive style

Hope that clears that up!
BrokenTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada119 Posts
March 23 2013 20:47 GMT
#25
Just did the 3 hatch before pool build vs a terran who 1 rax xcc ( i assume doing this is correct?) and had so much economy that iv never had before! he came in with blue flame ( like 8 of them ) killed EVERY drone but 1 in my third, still had more workers then him lol! 56 to his 40, he came in with helion tanks, i waited on my 1/1 and pushed, took him out with ease. my new favorite build! thanks:D
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Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 20:52:11
March 23 2013 20:49 GMT
#26
On March 24 2013 05:47 BrokenTV wrote:
Just did the 3 hatch before pool build vs a terran who 1 rax xcc ( i assume doing this is correct?) and had so much economy that iv never had before! he came in with blue flame ( like 8 of them ) killed EVERY drone but 1 in my third, still had more workers then him lol! 56 to his 40, he came in with helion tanks, i waited on my 1/1 and pushed, took him out with ease. my new favorite build! thanks:D


u have to drone scout and see if they CC before rax. If u scout 15 CC then u do 3 hatch before pool

also, crbox, how do you deal with protoss late game? I played a game where I went swarm host/hydra/roach/ling mid game to take out third but can't engage into protoss' natural. They just turtle til they have a deathball to secure third and go late game comp of VR/archon/colossus
It's probably something to do with my transition and I focused too hard on the midgame comp.
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
March 23 2013 22:31 GMT
#27
thx op
Astartes
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany7 Posts
March 23 2013 23:04 GMT
#28
Thx for sharing the replays with the community!

No fun no fun!
StegoZ
Profile Joined March 2013
Indonesia1 Post
March 24 2013 08:47 GMT
#29
Hello crBox, I wanna ask, what method do you use when spawning larvae?
are you using shift v+backspace method?
HammerBr
Profile Joined March 2013
Brazil1 Post
March 24 2013 22:31 GMT
#30
well done! thank you!
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
March 24 2013 23:48 GMT
#31
This is the only replay pack i can find in the entire world for zerg swarm.
So keep it up bro. Good job,
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
March 25 2013 00:02 GMT
#32
thanks. we need moaaaaaaaar
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 25 2013 05:17 GMT
#33
On March 24 2013 17:47 StegoZ wrote:
Hello crBox, I wanna ask, what method do you use when spawning larvae?
are you using shift v+backspace method?


I use F1-5 or 6 depending on map or I just click the minimap
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 25 2013 05:21 GMT
#34
On March 24 2013 05:49 Northern_iight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 05:47 BrokenTV wrote:
Just did the 3 hatch before pool build vs a terran who 1 rax xcc ( i assume doing this is correct?) and had so much economy that iv never had before! he came in with blue flame ( like 8 of them ) killed EVERY drone but 1 in my third, still had more workers then him lol! 56 to his 40, he came in with helion tanks, i waited on my 1/1 and pushed, took him out with ease. my new favorite build! thanks:D


u have to drone scout and see if they CC before rax. If u scout 15 CC then u do 3 hatch before pool

also, crbox, how do you deal with protoss late game? I played a game where I went swarm host/hydra/roach/ling mid game to take out third but can't engage into protoss' natural. They just turtle til they have a deathball to secure third and go late game comp of VR/archon/colossus
It's probably something to do with my transition and I focused too hard on the midgame comp.


I do SH / Corr heavy. It shouldn't let them go to that air army. It's all about how fast you can get those units to pressure the protoss and make him not take a fourth. You also need to be a little cavalier with your corruptors and stack them (unless there's storm) to one shot VR or Collo. Even if storm is out if you know the range you can still stack and try to one hit VR.
When straight up engage the VRs, try to burn their charge then go in.
Also have like 5 overseers (or more) in your ctrlgrp to be sure it's not worth it to snipe them (as they will lose a lot of dps focusing those in such high numbers)

hope that helps ^^
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
March 25 2013 05:24 GMT
#35
This guy is really good NA zerg on hots
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
March 25 2013 13:56 GMT
#36
bookmarking this thread for a later download when I'm not at work.

Can't wait to see your games!
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 16:56:05
March 25 2013 16:54 GMT
#37
More more more, we want more
I increased my zvp to a 5 win strike after seeing this hydra aggression into muta, not that i havent seen it from Life, but to have a reply is really helping the building order.
Literally the only place in the entire world for zerg replays.
asti009asti
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 06:01:24
April 22 2013 06:05 GMT
#38
1. thanks a lot, mate - very useful! Can you please upload other replays as soon as you get enough for a pack? ;-)
2. Do you do larvae injects via the mini-map?
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