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[Interview] 2012 GSL S4 CodeS Semi-finals - Page 11

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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 11 2012 01:57 GMT
#201
I'm sure MVP will prepare accordingly for Life's aggressive & harassment-heavy muta/ling/bling play. MVP to win it 4-1 or 4-2.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4524 Posts
October 11 2012 01:59 GMT
#202
On October 11 2012 07:56 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 07:29 Sikly wrote:
On October 11 2012 07:24 Ksquared wrote:
MVP to win game 7 with a 11-11 rax


And the heads of everyone involved in the Startale house implodes with disbelief. My money's on MVP making yet another kong. It is kind of his thing at this point.

1 silver does not a kong make, though it would be pretty funny to see StarTale with another silver.

no but being apart of startale makes a pretty strong case.
hi. big fan.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
October 11 2012 01:59 GMT
#203
So correct me if im wrong...but the best way to deal with Life's aggressiveness is to turtle up hard, or cheese? Me thinks MVP has the advantage here, although I really wouldnt mind seeing a zerg champion now that DRG has dropped off. Either way, epic TvZ finals is epic!
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 02:03:00
October 11 2012 02:02 GMT
#204
Life's style is unbeatable and I'm real curious to see what mvp is going to try to stop it. If you turtle up hard, then Life will just take the whole map. If you try to be aggressive, then life just kills you by being more aggressive. I thought taeja would be ready after he saw the beating MKP took, but he got owned just as hard as MKP even with a week of preparation.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
October 11 2012 02:03 GMT
#205
Do you think you can break Startale's second place curse?

Definitely. I'm originally from Zenex anyway. No problem.


Hell yeah ZeNeX all the way !!!
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4524 Posts
October 11 2012 02:04 GMT
#206
On October 11 2012 10:59 Incomplet wrote:
So correct me if im wrong...but the best way to deal with Life's aggressiveness is to turtle up hard, or cheese? Me thinks MVP has the advantage here, although I really wouldnt mind seeing a zerg champion now that DRG has dropped off. Either way, epic TvZ finals is epic!

not saying that isn't the best way to deal with it, but that's a very narrow mindset.
every build has different strengths and weaknesses. playing passive against one aggressive build and winning is not necessarily going to work playing against a different aggressive build. At this level of Starcraft they interpret each build new build/playstyle on the fly and as such going into the series with the mindset 'oh he's an aggressive player, I should play really passive/cheese him' might actually come back to bite him.

But these players understand that, they're pro's, afterall.
hi. big fan.
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
October 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#207
Wow. Life is pretty confident in winning against a 4x GSL champion.

I wish him luck.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 11 2012 03:33 GMT
#208
On October 11 2012 11:02 Canucklehead wrote:
Life's style is unbeatable and I'm real curious to see what mvp is going to try to stop it. If you turtle up hard, then Life will just take the whole map. If you try to be aggressive, then life just kills you by being more aggressive. I thought taeja would be ready after he saw the beating MKP took, but he got owned just as hard as MKP even with a week of preparation.

to be honest, i don't think taeja is that much of a prep player, especially as he seemed to come into the series thinking he would take it easily
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 11 2012 03:39 GMT
#209
On October 11 2012 12:33 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 11:02 Canucklehead wrote:
Life's style is unbeatable and I'm real curious to see what mvp is going to try to stop it. If you turtle up hard, then Life will just take the whole map. If you try to be aggressive, then life just kills you by being more aggressive. I thought taeja would be ready after he saw the beating MKP took, but he got owned just as hard as MKP even with a week of preparation.

to be honest, i don't think taeja is that much of a prep player, especially as he seemed to come into the series thinking he would take it easily


Taeja and MKP are similar in that they just let their talent and mechanics do the talking, and don't really do that much prep or strategizing.

I have a feeling it will either be a.) Mech but tweaked to be early Spire-proof (1rax expand into 3 naked rax into mech?); b.) weird 1base push out into expand; c.) some old unused build from summer 2011.
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padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
October 11 2012 04:06 GMT
#210
Mvp has a girlfriend >_<
Stop procrastinating
prOpSnuffe
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden241 Posts
October 11 2012 04:10 GMT
#211
I think Mvps defensive mech style will demolish Life. 4-1
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padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 04:12:55
October 11 2012 04:12 GMT
#212
On October 11 2012 13:10 prOpSnuffe wrote:
I think Mvps defensive mech style will demolish Life. 4-1

I think Life will have a fun time studying all mvp's TvZ style tho - his old Marine tank, his mech, his 1-1-1...
His disgusting 2rax bunker rush

All those timings
Stop procrastinating
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 04:33:55
October 11 2012 04:12 GMT
#213
On October 11 2012 12:33 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 11:02 Canucklehead wrote:
Life's style is unbeatable and I'm real curious to see what mvp is going to try to stop it. If you turtle up hard, then Life will just take the whole map. If you try to be aggressive, then life just kills you by being more aggressive. I thought taeja would be ready after he saw the beating MKP took, but he got owned just as hard as MKP even with a week of preparation.

to be honest, i don't think taeja is that much of a prep player, especially as he seemed to come into the series thinking he would take it easily


Taeja prepped a lot for this series. If you noticed, he did a 1 rax into 3 rax opening on Abyssal City and a CC first into 2 rax on Entombed Valley specifically to deter a 2 base muta rush. The only reason he didn't do it on Whirlwind was because he knew Life went for a very early pool, which meant all his gas timings would be delayed and therefore he could defend with normal turret timings. Also reactored hellion builds are really bad against Life since he overproduces lings and looks for the surround.

Life's baneling bust on Abyssal was a purely reactionary timing made after he saw all the marines in the base; he was expecting a 3CC reactor hellion build, which his muta rush would have hard countered.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 11 2012 18:30 GMT
#214
On October 10 2012 22:54 anatem wrote:
noone's gonna remember Life's win if he takes MVP down, what remains from this season for future generations is MVP's destruction of Rain and his advancement to his 6th finals in spite of all adversity


... No one will remember the first Royal Roader taking down MVP in the finals? Yeaaaah, I know it seems like most people on TL are overlooking Life for some bizarre reason but this is a ridiculous claim. At the least this match will be notorious even if MVP loses, just because he loses.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 11 2012 18:32 GMT
#215
On October 11 2012 12:33 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 11:02 Canucklehead wrote:
Life's style is unbeatable and I'm real curious to see what mvp is going to try to stop it. If you turtle up hard, then Life will just take the whole map. If you try to be aggressive, then life just kills you by being more aggressive. I thought taeja would be ready after he saw the beating MKP took, but he got owned just as hard as MKP even with a week of preparation.

to be honest, i don't think taeja is that much of a prep player, especially as he seemed to come into the series thinking he would take it easily


God I hope Taeja didn't come into the match with that mindset... after watching life this tournament it would be BEYOND foolhardy to even put in minimal prep. But looking at the result it might have been the case... if so, hopefully this opened his eyes...
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 11 2012 18:53 GMT
#216
On October 12 2012 03:30 Goshdarnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 22:54 anatem wrote:
noone's gonna remember Life's win if he takes MVP down, what remains from this season for future generations is MVP's destruction of Rain and his advancement to his 6th finals in spite of all adversity


... No one will remember the first Royal Roader taking down MVP in the finals? Yeaaaah, I know it seems like most people on TL are overlooking Life for some bizarre reason but this is a ridiculous claim. At the least this match will be notorious even if MVP loses, just because he loses.


Rofl, everyone has been, and still is, over loooking MVP, not Life.

secret - never again
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 19:07:56
October 11 2012 19:03 GMT
#217
On October 12 2012 03:53 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 03:30 Goshdarnit wrote:
On October 10 2012 22:54 anatem wrote:
noone's gonna remember Life's win if he takes MVP down, what remains from this season for future generations is MVP's destruction of Rain and his advancement to his 6th finals in spite of all adversity


... No one will remember the first Royal Roader taking down MVP in the finals? Yeaaaah, I know it seems like most people on TL are overlooking Life for some bizarre reason but this is a ridiculous claim. At the least this match will be notorious even if MVP loses, just because he loses.


Rofl, everyone has been, and still is, over loooking MVP, not Life.



80% of the posts about the finals are saying Mvp will crush Life because of X, Y, and Z.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
October 11 2012 19:07 GMT
#218
hah, so tempted to buy season pass just for the finals.. should have done it early.. the gstl just isn't enough anymore!!

but yeah, would be great if life won.. mvp though.. damn.. bet it will be a cool finals.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
October 11 2012 19:14 GMT
#219
If MVP wins this GSL, he will be cemented as the best player throughout WoL, period. I mean, he gets this title anyway barring some spectacular player winning every single major tournament from now till HOTS.

The guy is a monster...
We talkin about PRACTICE
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
October 11 2012 19:17 GMT
#220
I think MVP is definitely going to take this b/c MVP, unlike many other players, is a thinking player with very solid mechanics (similar to Seed and Nestea during his prime). Life is extremely stylistic with his play, so it's going to be no surprise that MVP will find a way to beat him.

I mean MVP countered Rain's ace cards such as his perfect record of victories with his 200/200 army, DT expand build, use of multiple observers, and the Warp Prism drops. Whenever a player especially Life plays a certain way, you must be damn sure that MVP will find a hole in it!
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