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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
Pusekatten
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway234 Posts
February 25 2012 03:16 GMT
#4141
So whats up with paying for gold membership, and winter arena pass, and still not being allowed to watch the live stream?
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 03:17:16
February 25 2012 03:17 GMT
#4142
On February 25 2012 12:14 PrAeToR.FeNiX wrote:
so funny that people complain about 20$ ... LOL @ u . i can do nothing for 10 minute and get 20$ =/


not everyone's life is as ez as yours.
snowfox330
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada61 Posts
February 25 2012 03:19 GMT
#4143
On February 25 2012 12:10 Enki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:07 snowfox330 wrote:
This is seriously a stupid, stupid idea.
The organizers may think that $20 is not a big deal for ppl who can afford a computer. However, they FAIL to realize that most starcraft players are STUDENTS, who have enough loans already on their bucks and certainly won't pay $20 (2~4 days worth of meal plan) to sit in their room.


You are going to owe tens of thousands on college anyways aren't you? whats the big deal about $20.


I pay for education, not for sitting in my room staring at the computer screen. I firmly believe that information should be free and thus I hate when I'm required to pay to watch an online stream.
I respect that MLG is a profitable organization, and I also respect that ESports is a growing industry, therefore I've never had any complaints against advertisements and I'll never use adblock, because I think ads is the most legitimate way for any internet based organization to make money, besides sponsors (which are pretty much also ads). However, since I already pay my ISP crap loads of money per month, I want what I watch on it to be free, just like how you watch television.
MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
February 25 2012 03:20 GMT
#4144
On February 25 2012 12:17 HellionDrop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:14 PrAeToR.FeNiX wrote:
so funny that people complain about 20$ ... LOL @ u . i can do nothing for 10 minute and get 20$ =/


not everyone's life is as ez as yours.


It seems safe to assume that at least you have a copy of starcraft, an internet connection, and a computer. If you're complaining about tuition (which I pay as well) then you're going to school in a (presumably) first world country. If you can't afford $20 for an event that is both fine and understandable. But I don't think that means your life is particularly difficult compared to the majority of people on the planet.
snowfox330
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada61 Posts
February 25 2012 03:23 GMT
#4145
On February 25 2012 12:14 PrAeToR.FeNiX wrote:
so funny that people complain about 20$ ... LOL @ u . i can do nothing for 10 minute and get 20$ =/


It's not that I think $20 is too much or I can't afford $20, I just don't feel like I should pay to watch streams. I'm OK with having a free LQ stream and a paid HQ stream, and I will pay if I want to watch in HQ. HOWEVER, I do not like this business model and I will not pay for PPV if it is $10 or even $5.
SlaTe87
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany35 Posts
February 25 2012 03:25 GMT
#4146
if u dont want to pay just typie in " MLG WINTER ARENA RESTREAM " in google and get it from there...dont be dumb people :/...

User was temp banned for this post.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
February 25 2012 03:27 GMT
#4147
Don't fucking do that. If you're going to take a stand of principle, then be so good to yourself as to fucking have principles. Otherwise, you're just being a whiny entitled ass, stealing from your favorite teams and players. At the very least be properly ashamed of yourself.
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MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
February 25 2012 03:27 GMT
#4148
On February 25 2012 12:25 SlaTe87 wrote:
if u dont want to pay just typie in " MLG WINTER ARENA RESTREAM " in google and get it from there...dont be dumb people :/...


I don't think TL appreciates people suggesting illegal restreams in general O.o
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
February 25 2012 03:28 GMT
#4149
On February 25 2012 12:23 snowfox330 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:14 PrAeToR.FeNiX wrote:
so funny that people complain about 20$ ... LOL @ u . i can do nothing for 10 minute and get 20$ =/


It's not that I think $20 is too much or I can't afford $20, I just don't feel like I should pay to watch streams. I'm OK with having a free LQ stream and a paid HQ stream, and I will pay if I want to watch in HQ. HOWEVER, I do not like this business model and I will not pay for PPV if it is $10 or even $5.


Then don't pay. Meanwhile I am enjoying great MLG content with less lag because more people are not watching...yay!
Let them say we lived in the time of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. Let them say we lived in the time of Nal_rA, Dreamer of Protoss. Let them say we lived in the time of Savior, Master of the Zerg.
Muffel
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany137 Posts
February 25 2012 03:29 GMT
#4150
so annoying how people dont get that its not just about the 20 dollars. if i have to pay 20 dollars and everything is fine forever, okay.
but you pay 20 dollars and on the same time agree with the PPV model in esports. you agree that any given event in esports can charge 20 dollars if you want to watch it. lets say MLG makes all their events 20 dollar because mlg winter was that succesful. then its not about 20 dollars but about.. lets say 150 dollars this year.
not imagening what happens to other events like dh/nasl/ipl.
that is what these 20 dollars stand for. thats a big change in esports history. dont know how so many people dont get it.
its not about the 20 dollars itself..
Cox:"I suppose I could riff a list of things that I care as little about as our last week together. Lemme see, uhh [...] Oh! And Hugh Jackman." J.D.: Hugh Jackman's Wolverine! How dare he.
Muggs
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
February 25 2012 03:29 GMT
#4151
On February 25 2012 11:52 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 11:35 perser84 wrote:
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/live

well just F5 every 20 sec this page and you have it for free lol

wow thanks for the tip 480p and 360p switch is fast enough not to miss a thing =D


I've been doing this. Or at least I was, then I noticed I didn't have to switch anymore. I'm able to watch the first stream for free now.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
February 25 2012 03:31 GMT
#4152
On February 25 2012 12:27 MercilessMonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:25 SlaTe87 wrote:
if u dont want to pay just typie in " MLG WINTER ARENA RESTREAM " in google and get it from there...dont be dumb people :/...


I don't think TL appreciates people suggesting illegal restreams in general O.o


They obviously don't appreciate MLG doing PPV in the first place, do I doubt they really give a shit outside of legality issues.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
February 25 2012 03:32 GMT
#4153
On February 25 2012 12:16 Pusekatten wrote:
So whats up with paying for gold membership, and winter arena pass, and still not being allowed to watch the live stream?


MLGLish says they're aware of the issue and working on a fix. She also suggested signing into each stream individually.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
snowfox330
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada61 Posts
February 25 2012 03:32 GMT
#4154
I actually think restreaming is a great idea. Because I think MLG is wrong this time and they should get punished for it.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 25 2012 03:33 GMT
#4155
wow mlg really did a bad job at enforcing their ppv. Guess now i never will find out how many actually paid unless mlg tells us, which i doubt. Well all i could do was write them an email. But that was really sloppy, as everyone with a bit of knowledge can slip by.
But those with login problems, checking support will help. Now going to try and distract me, as its really tempting.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
February 25 2012 03:34 GMT
#4156
Restreaming puts eyes on their product and says "I want to watch this, I just don't agree with the price point." If you actually object to what they're doing, the correct choice (legally, morally, ethically and functionally) is to not watch. Ignore it. Pretend it didn't happen. Watching restreams tells them they're putting on an awesome event that you want to participate in.
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Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
February 25 2012 03:36 GMT
#4157
So far buying this has been worth it. Got to procrastinate some homework and see some insane matches. 20$ well spent imo
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
February 25 2012 03:36 GMT
#4158
On February 25 2012 12:32 snowfox330 wrote:
I actually think restreaming is a great idea. Because I think MLG is wrong this time and they should get punished for it.


You can punish them by not buying their product. They have massive production costs, so if not many people buy it they will be punished in the clearest way possible for a company, monetarily. Restreaming doesn't really punish them, since it's pretty clear you were never planning on paying and I doubt many people watching a restream were. They don't incur any extra costs from someone restreaming their event and so long as they aren't losing paying customers it really isn't punishment in the slightest.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
February 25 2012 03:37 GMT
#4159
On February 25 2012 12:19 snowfox330 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:10 Enki wrote:
On February 25 2012 12:07 snowfox330 wrote:
This is seriously a stupid, stupid idea.
The organizers may think that $20 is not a big deal for ppl who can afford a computer. However, they FAIL to realize that most starcraft players are STUDENTS, who have enough loans already on their bucks and certainly won't pay $20 (2~4 days worth of meal plan) to sit in their room.


You are going to owe tens of thousands on college anyways aren't you? whats the big deal about $20.


I pay for education, not for sitting in my room staring at the computer screen. I firmly believe that information should be free and thus I hate when I'm required to pay to watch an online stream.
I respect that MLG is a profitable organization, and I also respect that ESports is a growing industry, therefore I've never had any complaints against advertisements and I'll never use adblock, because I think ads is the most legitimate way for any internet based organization to make money, besides sponsors (which are pretty much also ads). However, since I already pay my ISP crap loads of money per month, I want what I watch on it to be free, just like how you watch television.


So go study or something and make use of your education instead of bitching about the $20. Do you just want attention or something?
Also, "not for sitting in my room staring at the computer screen?" Well, isn't that what you would be doing if it was free?

"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
snowfox330
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada61 Posts
February 25 2012 03:38 GMT
#4160
Either way I'm pissed off and there's no way MLG will get my money this weekend. Good thing assembly is also this weekend and surely I wont be bored
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