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CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 12:53:15
June 23 2011 12:53 GMT
#961
When I created the team it gave me the HTML code.

How do I get it again? Want to post it on another forum to compare teams
^ Probably a Troll Post
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 23 2011 12:54 GMT
#962
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
June 23 2011 12:57 GMT
#963
On June 23 2011 21:54 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.


While this is true, i think Bittman just means if the team that he posted would have the most points after Day 1. Not that it will be the perfect team for the tournement, just for day 1 (Slayers vs MVP).

From that point, i think you might be quite right bittman.
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:37:02
June 23 2011 12:58 GMT
#964
On June 23 2011 21:57 1ManArmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:54 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.


While this is true, i think Bittman just means if the team that he posted would have the most points after Day 1. Not that it will be the perfect team for the tournement, just for day 1 (Slayers vs MVP).

From that point, i think you might be quite right bittman.


Well, it still wouldn't be very perfect because you'd be capped out for the rest of the schedule. :p

Calculated the "most points possible after day 1" scenario:

Alicia: 4 points (2 wins + Lineup Appearance - Loss)
GuineaPig: 4 points (1 win + Lineup Appearance + 2 game streak break + Team Wins - Loss)
BoxeR: 2 points (1 win + Lineup Appearance - Loss)
DongRaeGu: 8 points (3 wins + Lineup Appearance + Team Wins)
MVP: 2 points (Team won 4-3)
4 Random MVP Players who weren't played: 4 points (Team Wins)
24 points (Best possible after day 1, but likely to be exceeded by other teams during the week)

Worst possible points after day 1 (also worst possible setup for the week):
MMA: 0 points (Lineup Appearance - Loss)
Ganzi: 0 points (Lineup Appearance - Loss)
6 other random SlayerS players who weren't played: 0 points (Team Lost)
0 points (0 guaranteed for the rest of the week)
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
June 23 2011 13:02 GMT
#965
On June 23 2011 21:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:57 1ManArmy wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:54 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.


While this is true, i think Bittman just means if the team that he posted would have the most points after Day 1. Not that it will be the perfect team for the tournement, just for day 1 (Slayers vs MVP).

From that point, i think you might be quite right bittman.


Well, it still wouldn't be very perfect because you'd be capped out for the rest of the schedule. :p

Taking only day 1 into consideration, the rest of the schedule is irrelevant. bittman's point still stands.
Blah.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:11:36
June 23 2011 13:04 GMT
#966
On June 23 2011 21:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:57 1ManArmy wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:54 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.


While this is true, i think Bittman just means if the team that he posted would have the most points after Day 1. Not that it will be the perfect team for the tournement, just for day 1 (Slayers vs MVP).

From that point, i think you might be quite right bittman.


Well, it still wouldn't be very perfect because you'd be capped out for the rest of the schedule. :p

...that's still irrelevant. And since Bittman counted the points wrong, I think 20 was the total amount of points today, with some bonus points if you had filled the rest of your roster with MVP players. Actually, it looks like 24 points is maxed, if you had Noblesse, Violet and some other MVP players on your roster.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Sakarabu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:32:30
June 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#967
On June 23 2011 21:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:57 1ManArmy wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:54 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.


While this is true, i think Bittman just means if the team that he posted would have the most points after Day 1. Not that it will be the perfect team for the tournement, just for day 1 (Slayers vs MVP).

From that point, i think you might be quite right bittman.


Well, it still wouldn't be very perfect because you'd be capped out for the rest of the schedule. :p

Calculated the "most points possible after day 1" scenario:

Alicia: 4 points (2 wins + Lineup Appearance - Loss)
GuineaPig: 4 points (1 win + Lineup Appearance + 2 game streak break + Team Wins - Loss)
BoxeR: 2 points (1 win + Lineup Appearance - Loss)
DongRaeGu: 8 points (3 wins + Lineup Appearance + Team Wins)
MVP: 2 points (Team won 4-3)
3 Random MVP Players who weren't played: 3 points (Team Wins)
21 points (Best possible after day 1, but likely to be exceeded by other teams during the week)

Worst possible points after day 1 (also worst possible setup for the week):
MMA: 0 points (Lineup Appearance - Loss)
Ganzi: 0 points (Lineup Appearance - Loss)
6 other random SlayerS players who weren't played: 0 points (Team Lost)
0 points (0 guaranteed for the rest of the week)


Terrible math. You added 'your own' numbers up incorrectly... Using your own calculations the total would be 23, which is still wrong.

On June 23 2011 22:04 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:58 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:57 1ManArmy wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:54 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.


While this is true, i think Bittman just means if the team that he posted would have the most points after Day 1. Not that it will be the perfect team for the tournement, just for day 1 (Slayers vs MVP).

From that point, i think you might be quite right bittman.


Well, it still wouldn't be very perfect because you'd be capped out for the rest of the schedule. :p

...that's still irrelevant. And since Bittman counted the points wrong, I think 20 was the total amount of points today, with some bonus points if you had filled the rest of your roster with MVP players. Actually, it looks like 24 points is maxed, if you had Noblesse, Violet and some other MVP players on your roster.


Correct
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:19:52
June 23 2011 13:18 GMT
#968
On June 23 2011 22:16 Sakarabu wrote:
The added points for people on your roster is only if they actually played, not if they just sat on the bench, therefore the max points for the day are 22.

No, you still get points for people on the bench. Had Slayers won, people would have gotten +1 for Cella, now someone with Keen got a point, etc.

Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Game Win: +2 Points per win
Game Loss: -1 Point
2-Game Streak Break: +1 Point**
3-Game Streak Break: +2 Points**
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point***

Tie-breaks are decided by the team captain's score.

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.
**Given when a pro-gamer defeats a pro-gamer on the opposing team who is on a two or three game winning streak. Streaks do not carry over between matches; all streaks must occur in the same match.
***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
June 23 2011 13:20 GMT
#969
asperger is correct. Here are the scoring rules, note the asterisks:

Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Game Win: +2 Points per win
Game Loss: -1 Point
2-Game Streak Break: +1 Point**
3-Game Streak Break: +2 Points**
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point***

Tie-breaks are decided by the team captain's score.

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.
**Given when a pro-gamer defeats a pro-gamer on the opposing team who is on a two or three game winning streak. Streaks do not carry over between matches; all streaks must occur in the same match.
***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.
Blah.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 23 2011 13:20 GMT
#970
Well, I got 3 points today.

Alicia + GanZi on my team played today.

Alicia +4
GanZi -1
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:36:43
June 23 2011 13:21 GMT
#971
On June 23 2011 22:16 Sakarabu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:58 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:57 1ManArmy wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:54 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:37 bittman wrote:
16 points for Day 1 if I have counted correctly (probably haven't =/ )

Am I right in counting that if someone had a "perfect team" for day 1, it should be:
Alicia - 5 points
GuineaPig - 3 points
Boxer - 2 points
DonRaeGu - 11 points (do both streaks count? Otherwise 10 points)
MVP (team) - 2 points
PLUS - any bonus MVP players (who receive 1 point for being on the winning team)
= 23+

Confirm/deny?


No, quite frankly, this is just bad. Your "perfect" day 1 would be worse than a lot of teams because you're neglecting the opportunity cost of not having other players on different teams play. The most points you can rack up every time the schedule restarts is having 6 players reverse all kill (4 wins + game win + 3 game streak break) and having your 2 other players get 3 wins streaks and then lose (because it would be otherwise impossible in the schedule to have them win). All different teams, of course.


While this is true, i think Bittman just means if the team that he posted would have the most points after Day 1. Not that it will be the perfect team for the tournement, just for day 1 (Slayers vs MVP).

From that point, i think you might be quite right bittman.


Well, it still wouldn't be very perfect because you'd be capped out for the rest of the schedule. :p

Calculated the "most points possible after day 1" scenario:

Alicia: 4 points (2 wins + Lineup Appearance - Loss)
GuineaPig: 4 points (1 win + Lineup Appearance + 2 game streak break + Team Wins - Loss)
BoxeR: 2 points (1 win + Lineup Appearance - Loss)
DongRaeGu: 8 points (3 wins + Lineup Appearance + Team Wins)
MVP: 2 points (Team won 4-3)
3 Random MVP Players who weren't played: 3 points (Team Wins)
21 points (Best possible after day 1, but likely to be exceeded by other teams during the week)

Worst possible points after day 1 (also worst possible setup for the week):
MMA: 0 points (Lineup Appearance - Loss)
Ganzi: 0 points (Lineup Appearance - Loss)
6 other random SlayerS players who weren't played: 0 points (Team Lost)
0 points (0 guaranteed for the rest of the week)


Terrible math. You added 'your own' numbers up incorrectly... Using your own calculations the total would be 23, which is still wrong.



Right, I forgot to add in the Team 2 points and then forgot to double back and add it to the total. Doh. 24 is correct, however.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Sakarabu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:25:01
June 23 2011 13:21 GMT
#972
asperger is correct. Here are the scoring rules, note the asterisks:

+ Show Spoiler +
Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Game Win: +2 Points per win
Game Loss: -1 Point
2-Game Streak Break: +1 Point**
3-Game Streak Break: +2 Points**
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point***

Tie-breaks are decided by the team captain's score.

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.
**Given when a pro-gamer defeats a pro-gamer on the opposing team who is on a two or three game winning streak. Streaks do not carry over between matches; all streaks must occur in the same match.
***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.


Ah ok my bad
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 23 2011 13:21 GMT
#973
On June 23 2011 22:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, I got 3 points today.

Alicia + GanZi on my team played today.

Alicia +4
GanZi -1


You get 1 point for a Ganzi lineup appearance, so you actually got 4 points.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 23 2011 13:22 GMT
#974
On June 23 2011 22:21 Sakarabu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 22:18 asperger wrote:
On June 23 2011 22:16 Sakarabu wrote:
The added points for people on your roster is only if they actually played, not if they just sat on the bench, therefore the max points for the day are 22.

No, you still get points for people on the bench. Had Slayers won, people would have gotten +1 for Cella, now someone with Keen got a point, etc.


Source? The thread with the rules states:

Show nested quote +
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.


That wording pretty much states that they have to play a game to be counted. Also if it counted everyone on the bench then you may aswell just make it a straight up +points for a team win, since if I remember correctly each team has a set ammount of players they are allowed to have on the bench.


um, dude


***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 23 2011 13:23 GMT
#975
On June 23 2011 22:21 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 22:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, I got 3 points today.

Alicia + GanZi on my team played today.

Alicia +4
GanZi -1


You get 1 point for a Ganzi lineup appearance, so you actually got 4 points.


Ah yes, you are correct. 4 Points is a good start I'd say. Alicia looks like a promising choice for me, but I will still have to watch GanZi before I am convinced.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:43:32
June 23 2011 13:42 GMT
#976
I make the scores for today (EDIT: although someone beat me to it, lol):

Alicia: +1 appearance, +2 win, +2 win, -1 loss, total 4
Guinea Pig: +1 appearance, +2 win, +1 2-streak break, -1 loss, +1 team win, total 4
Boxer: +1 appearance, +2 win, -1 loss, total 2
DongRaeGu: +1 appearance, +2 win, +2 win, +2 win, +1 team win, total 8
Any other MVP player: +1 team win, total 1
SlayerS team: +1 3-4 loss, total 1
MVP team: +2 4-3 win, total 2

The best team after one day (obviously not best possible team overall) would be:
Alicia, Guinea Pig, Boxer, DongRaeGu, four other MVP players, MVP team. The total score would be 24.

On June 23 2011 22:21 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 22:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, I got 3 points today.

Alicia + GanZi on my team played today.

Alicia +4
GanZi -1


You get 1 point for a Ganzi lineup appearance, so you actually got 4 points.


You get +1 for lineup appearance, -1 for loss, total 0. So yes, 4 points is the correct total, just spelling it out entirely.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
June 23 2011 14:05 GMT
#977
Glad I choose MMA for my anti team ACE.
Polt was right about luck
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
June 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#978
where can we check how our team did besides counting it ourself..
CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
June 23 2011 14:14 GMT
#979
Poll: Regret not choosing DongRaeGu?

Nah, not really. (15)
 
47%

Yes, he looks amazing (8)
 
25%

No, he just had a good day (6)
 
19%

Yea, I guess (3)
 
9%

32 total votes

Your vote: Regret not choosing DongRaeGu?

(Vote): Yes, he looks amazing
(Vote): Yea, I guess
(Vote): Nah, not really.
(Vote): No, he just had a good day



^ Probably a Troll Post
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 23 2011 14:19 GMT
#980
On June 23 2011 23:14 CellTech wrote:
Poll: Regret not choosing DongRaeGu?

Nah, not really. (15)
 
47%

Yes, he looks amazing (8)
 
25%

No, he just had a good day (6)
 
19%

Yea, I guess (3)
 
9%

32 total votes

Your vote: Regret not choosing DongRaeGu?

(Vote): Yes, he looks amazing
(Vote): Yea, I guess
(Vote): Nah, not really.
(Vote): No, he just had a good day





You're forgetting the options for the people who have him. :D
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
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