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On June 23 2011 13:17 Zedders wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 17:01 Copenap wrote:On June 22 2011 16:43 Emporio wrote:No offense, but you have one of the worst anti-teams possible, assuming you are serious. First of all, you have 22 points when you only need 13. Secondly, MKP and MC are really not good bets at all unless you know something that we don't. At the very least, bet on just one of them and get an actually bad player for your third slot. Killer is not a bad choice, but his 5 points with either of your two other players already meets the 13 point maximum. If you could choose Wolf, who really should be 0 points then you might be okay. But that's not the case. Also, while Polt might overshadow MKP, it's not like there's really anyone else on Prime to play. While Polt might take the role of ace with his recent sucess, MKP will still almost guaranteed play every match. Actually, Polt being better makes MKP an even worse anti-team choice since it means they'll play him earlier so he has more chances of appearing. He has Clide for 4 points in his main team, he's obviously trolling <3 I'm still suprised we see so many FU Anti Team picks. If you're unable to trade them out due to inflated points you're screwed, it's such a small team and they will win some games. ? Clides better than you
Wow, good arguement, I'm really impressed o_O
Srsly, what's your point dude?
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Fearless
Main Team
2  Ace Good performance against foreigners
5 Alicia Solid player overall choice, usually first pick
1 HuK Good price
4 InCa PvP sniper for the points
5  July (captain) Player that can consistently chainsaw any team
8  MarineKing Unique and consistent
4 Squirtle Solid player
1 Tiger He's playing against qxc and I betting that qxc will tilt
6 StarTale They have easy teams to fight against.
Anti Team
3 Check Predictable. Lacking.
4 FruitDealer Lacking. Unimpressive play. He looks lazier.
6 Trickster Overrated.
I am a Terran/Zerg player. The Protoss players seem more of a bargain. Zerg players are too risky to pick because of the current metagame and there are too many overrated Terrans who got good points because of luck and the metagame. Protoss players will snipe and cheese the opponents out.
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On June 23 2011 17:12 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 17:04 Big J wrote:On June 23 2011 16:29 Olinim wrote:On June 23 2011 16:17 Big J wrote:My team: + Show Spoiler +@@@Copyright by Jay@@@Main Team2 CoCa I think he is better than 2 points. Should be a 3 or a 4. Therefore: easy decision! 4 Genius MVP will have to use him and I think he is pretty solid and should bring daddy some points  1 JookTo JookTo is nearly for free !!!! It's raining banelings 8 MarineKing I think the Prime team doesn't have much choice, but to send out MarineKing a lot of times and I also think, that MarineKing is one of the most solid players, when he takes on the more unknown opponents, that might be thrown at him. 8 NesTea (captain) I wanted MVP for this spot, but I lacked 1point. Anyway, the captain should be from a Team that makes it very far, as I can't trade him. An IM player is therefore an awesome choice, imo. 2 TheBest Seems to be in good shape lately and his all-in style might be used to snipe a macro player by the fOU team. 2 ViOlet Whoever wants to beat MVP has to think of a way to beat ViOlet. He will be playing. I will get points! 3 Virus I think for 3 points he is quite OK. 6 SlayerS I wasn't confident in picking a SlayerS Player, but the team itself is a good choice imo. Especially considering that you can't trade teams, better pick something solid! Anti Team3 Sage Who is this guy, and why is he worth 3points? 7 sC This was a tough choice, yet I think that he will be an easy target to snipe. 3 Sheth Sry, but I don't see him take on korean pros... other thoughts: MMA is highly overrated in my eyes. MC is overrated too I think. He is really losing a lot of games lately. HuK would be a great choice, yet I don't know if he will play a single game for oGs. NaDa would have been a great choice too, he could easily be the Ace of oGs, comparing his performances with MCs... Who will be Prime's Ace? MarineKing or Polt? Startale looks weak lately... Two of their more experienced players, July and Squirtle, don't seem to be very solid. MC recently won a major tournament and got 3rd at columbus...do you want him to win EVERYTHING?  Which? all I know is: He got beaten up early in the GSL, in the GSL ST, lost 1 of 2 matches in the last GSTL, would have been out vs Thorzain in the MLG if it wasn't for extended series, took a beating from Losira later on there, lost to Bomber in the Dreamhack... I just feel like he is losing whenever he has to play vs a top korean player. (lately: DRG, Bomber, Polt, Alicia, Losira...) and his vT matchup really doesn't impress me, which makes him an easy snipetarget. So for me, no 9 more like an 8 or 7. The starswars tournament. His loss vs Alicia is a PvP, still an odd matchup where anyone can win it seems He lost 1-2 to Bomber, and barely lost the 3rd game He lost to polt in GSL code s do to being super greedy for no reason, and that was like 2 months ago, polt is also 10-0 vs P Losira is one of the, if not the, best ZvP in the world right now He's still the most consistent PvP player atm and his PvT and PvZ are both top notch. Everyone you listed is 8 or 9 points also except Alicia which I explained as PvP being PvP :D
Agree on nearly everything, but I think the conclusion of him losing every match vs an equal ranked player should be, that he has to be ranked lower.
I'm not saying MC's bad, imo he shouldn't be Top4 right now, more in the Top5-10 (8-7points)
And btw in PvP: I would bet my money on Inca if he had to play blind and without keyboard in an Inca vs MC series. Still he is extremly good.
And his PvT... He has troubles against nearly any Korean Code S Terran.
I think he is even down vs MVP in the overall count, who's worst MU by far is TvP.
MarineKing even made the reverse 4-3 after donating 2games to MC in the GSL WC.
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Cella would definitely never play... Boxer is worth 1 imo and he probably will only play against the foreigners.
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On June 23 2011 17:40 fearlessparagon wrote:Cella would definitely never play... Boxer is worth 1 imo and he probably will only play against the foreigners.
Haha I know cella would never play but he is so awesome just gotta do it but I might change it before
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+ Show Spoiler +Main Team5 Alicia-Leading off for Slayers and is pretty amazing, not to mention one of their only (if not the only) good Protoss. 4 Byun -Zenex's roster isn't particularly deep and as one of their top players for relatively cheap I figured he was a good pickup. 8 DongRaeGu (captain) -Small team, great record recently, lack of ZvZ is troubling but I doubt he's that bad...otherwise other temas would have sniped him...right? ohgod. 4 GuMiho- Strong player for the price, one of Fou's stronger players so he'll get plenty of playtime. 1 IMHappy-Needed someone with few points, starting off so he's guaranteed playtime, one of the better picks for 1 points IMO. 3 RevivaL- TSL's only good zerg on their roster, what with Fruitdealer being terrible recently and all, so he's bound to get some playtime and is pretty good. 2 ViOlet-Top P for MVP, small team as well, so playtime. 3 Younghwa-Just really really good, and a bargain for the price. 6 SlayerSAnti Team3 Anypro4 FruitDealer6 Leenock
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On June 23 2011 17:39 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 17:12 Hierarch wrote:On June 23 2011 17:04 Big J wrote:On June 23 2011 16:29 Olinim wrote:On June 23 2011 16:17 Big J wrote:My team: + Show Spoiler +@@@Copyright by Jay@@@Main Team2 CoCa I think he is better than 2 points. Should be a 3 or a 4. Therefore: easy decision! 4 Genius MVP will have to use him and I think he is pretty solid and should bring daddy some points 1 JookTo JookTo is nearly for free !!!! It's raining banelings 8 MarineKing I think the Prime team doesn't have much choice, but to send out MarineKing a lot of times and I also think, that MarineKing is one of the most solid players, when he takes on the more unknown opponents, that might be thrown at him. 8 NesTea (captain) I wanted MVP for this spot, but I lacked 1point. Anyway, the captain should be from a Team that makes it very far, as I can't trade him. An IM player is therefore an awesome choice, imo. 2 TheBest Seems to be in good shape lately and his all-in style might be used to snipe a macro player by the fOU team. 2 ViOlet Whoever wants to beat MVP has to think of a way to beat ViOlet. He will be playing. I will get points! 3 Virus I think for 3 points he is quite OK. 6 SlayerS I wasn't confident in picking a SlayerS Player, but the team itself is a good choice imo. Especially considering that you can't trade teams, better pick something solid! Anti Team3 Sage Who is this guy, and why is he worth 3points? 7 sC This was a tough choice, yet I think that he will be an easy target to snipe. 3 Sheth Sry, but I don't see him take on korean pros... other thoughts: MMA is highly overrated in my eyes. MC is overrated too I think. He is really losing a lot of games lately. HuK would be a great choice, yet I don't know if he will play a single game for oGs. NaDa would have been a great choice too, he could easily be the Ace of oGs, comparing his performances with MCs... Who will be Prime's Ace? MarineKing or Polt? Startale looks weak lately... Two of their more experienced players, July and Squirtle, don't seem to be very solid. MC recently won a major tournament and got 3rd at columbus...do you want him to win EVERYTHING? Which? all I know is: He got beaten up early in the GSL, in the GSL ST, lost 1 of 2 matches in the last GSTL, would have been out vs Thorzain in the MLG if it wasn't for extended series, took a beating from Losira later on there, lost to Bomber in the Dreamhack... I just feel like he is losing whenever he has to play vs a top korean player. (lately: DRG, Bomber, Polt, Alicia, Losira...) and his vT matchup really doesn't impress me, which makes him an easy snipetarget. So for me, no 9 more like an 8 or 7. The starswars tournament. His loss vs Alicia is a PvP, still an odd matchup where anyone can win it seems He lost 1-2 to Bomber, and barely lost the 3rd game He lost to polt in GSL code s do to being super greedy for no reason, and that was like 2 months ago, polt is also 10-0 vs P Losira is one of the, if not the, best ZvP in the world right now He's still the most consistent PvP player atm and his PvT and PvZ are both top notch. Everyone you listed is 8 or 9 points also except Alicia which I explained as PvP being PvP :D Agree on nearly everything, but I think the conclusion of him losing every match vs an equal ranked player should be, that he has to be ranked lower. I'm not saying MC's bad, imo he shouldn't be Top4 right now, more in the Top5-10 (8-7points) And btw in PvP: I would bet my money on Inca if he had to play blind and without keyboard in an Inca vs MC series. Still he is extremly good. And his PvT... He has troubles against nearly any Korean Code S Terran. I think he is even down vs MVP in the overall count, who's worst MU by far is TvP. MarineKing even made the reverse 4-3 after donating 2games to MC in the GSL WC.
He has issues PvT but bomber is a 9 and look at his tvz vs moon...overall MC is at least on the same level as the other 9's.
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I Choose You
Main Team
7 aLive This guy is always guaranteed a 2 Kill or higher
8 DongRaeGu If there's a Terran I'm guaranteed a Kill
5  GuineaPig Cheeky bastard
4 GuMiho just qualified for Code A
2 PuMa (captain) ICCUP Korean Weekly
2 Puzzle ZeNex Ace and cheap
2 Tails Is the best for a coinflip even so called PvP
2 TheStC I sense great things from him
4 Prime Prime seems to be on a streak lately.
Anti Team
4 FruitDealer Never won a GSTL match
4 HongUn Hardly seen in GSTL
6 Trickster Made it so Prime didn't get All Killed
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SixSiXsiX
+ Show Spoiler +Main Team5 AliciaProbably the most difficult call for me was Alicia, GanZi, or GuMiho. Settled on Alicia based on ELO. 1 IMHappyPure speculation. I'm hoping either he or Tiger has a fantastic showing in the first round and I can trade them off for someone good. 5 JulyHe always plays when ST sends out their full team, and he is as skilled as ever. I might regret paying so much, but it's a long term investment. 9 MMAI hate going for a hyped player, but MMA is consistent enough to be worth the cost. Plus, with SlayerS' difficult schedule, he will probably come out often. 4 Squirtle (captain) Solid and inexpensive. Couldn't afford not to, and I don't expect to regret it. 2 TheStCHe may be all hype, but his record is insane and he plays for a team that will do well. Easy choice for 2 points. 1 TigerJust like Happy, pure speculation. 3 YounghwaThis dude really performs above a 3 point level. As long as IM isn't too stacked already, he should pay for himself quickly. 6 StarTaleWith a strong line up and easy schedule, StarTale is completely underrated compared to SlayerS. Anti Team3 ChoyaAwful player, will get some play time but will lose. 5 Lyn5 MoonThese picks have nothing to do with the schedule. 5 points is simply a lot to pay for such terrible players.
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Changing my team with 50 seconds left on the countdown, lol.
Anyone else do that?
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A team
Main Team
5 Alicia Slayer's best protoss
8 DongRaeGu (captain) Insane kid will most likely do well this time aound as well
5 GuineaPig Random players always get least one kill easy.
4 GuMiho Rising terran star in code A
1 IMHappy 1 point? easy steal as he is starting off for IM
3 Sheth Bound to get lots of play time since he is like FXO's ace
2 Taeja All kill last time.
3 Younghwa Heard he was good.
5 Old GenerationS I wanted MC but picked DRG instead.
Anti Team
5 Lyn
5 Moon
4 ThorZaIN
For anti team read the draft blog lol.
AND HERE WE GO
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On June 23 2011 18:00 ZapRoffo wrote:
Changing my team with 50 seconds left on the countdown, lol.
Anyone else do that?
I was going to but then I decided not to. Now I want change it again but oh well. I hope mvp wins or I will regret not changing my anti.
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Moletrap Depreciaton Society
+ Show Spoiler +Main Team5 Alicia – Super solid player, gets played a lot, and is probably the best mid-range Slayers player for 5 points. 8 DongRaeGu – Originally wanted to go for Losira, who is almost as good (ZvT sucks, though), but I figured Losira and MVP would fight for play time with Nestea as the ace. With their easy group IM might not even have to use them. DRG will most likely play every match, as MVP will be a bit more on the ropes. 4 GuMiho – Probably one of the best picks around, qualified for Code A, has played a ton for fOu, and brought them a lot of wins. Extremely good choice for 4 points. 1 Hero – Doesn't feel great to go for Hero, but I wanted an oGs member, and he seems to be their lead-off every game. Qualified for Code A and is only 1 point. My worries about him might be unjustified. 1 IMHappy – Lead-off for IM, has gotten a lot of hype, and qualified for Code A. Seems like another great 1-pointer. 2 Puzzle – I'm not entirely sure on this one, but I wanted a ZeNex player, since they could probably do better this time around with their weak group. Probably a better pick than Coca. 4 Squirtle – I actually didn't want to do this, but I need a Startale player, Squirtle has been played a lot in the past and isn't as bad as he's played lately. Originally went for Curious, but after having examined his past GSTL games he looks pretty bad. 3 Younghwa (captain) – Best pick for the points. This guy could easily have been 6/7 in my book. Will probably be IM's mid-range player to tear it up after Happy has lost, and YoungHwa has played (and won) a ton of games for IM in the earlier team leagues (Losira and MVP level, but for 5/6 points less). Feels like a great choice for a captain, as he's pretty low on points, but has an enormous potential of bringing wins. 8 Incredible Miracle – Kind of a hard pick between Startale and IM, but I didn't feel I needed more points to distribute. IM will surely beat a lot of teams (possibly even ST) with 4-2 or more. Anti Team4 Clide – Doesn't get sent out for TSL very often, and I feel he's been playing absolutely atrociously as of late. 4 HongUn – Has two showings and two losses so far in the GSTL. I've never liked his playstyle, and I expect him to do poorly. 5 Killer – One of the worst Code S players, in my opinion. I still can't believe how far he got in Code S. Feels risky to have two TSL players on my anti, but neither Clide nor Killer has played a lot in the GSTL, and I feel both actually are the best anti-picks available.
Here's what I finally settled on! Good luck, everybody!
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hYpwnz
Main Team
2 Ace : always does good in GSTL, cheaper than Squirtle, great toss pick
9 Bomber (captain) : no contest
1 Hero: Bisu Jr. has potential, plus hes the likely starter for OGS, which may yield more points
5 July: altho hes still shaky here and there, most of the players cant stand his aggressiveness. Tushin ftw
8 LosirA: this' actually my last pick, thinking between other 8-pts like MKP but ended up choose LosirA since he may get more plays than MKP
2 PuMa: very solid terran, plus hes 2-pts only
1 Smart: JYP has been stepping up his game recently, might become way better than Tester or SangHo
2 TheStC: who can resist to pick this ultra hyped master of the universe terran ?
6 StarTale: just my favorite team
Anti Team: not much thought-out, pretty much based on personal preferences
6 Leenock: I just hate this kid lol
2 Qxc: just feel like hes gonna lose alot
5 TOP: have a feeling TOP might underperform in teamleague
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GOM with TheWind
Main Team
+ Show Spoiler +5 Alicia - One of the cheaper reliable options on SlayerS, which I expect will do very well. 1 Hyperdub - He hasn't been great lately, but 1 point is still undervaluing him. 5 July (captain) - Wasn't convinced about him until recently, but he's on a tear, and has done well in team league settings like the Korea-vs-the-world match. 3 Keen - Arguably MVP's best option as Terran. 8 NesTea - He won't be played much unless IM is 3 down, but I don't see him losing much. 3 Seed - IM's secret Protoss weapon. 4 Squirtle - Solid GSTL results in the past. 4 ThorZaIN - Because I punched in my team before I saw that F.U doesn't play until week 6.  3 Team SCV Life - Reliable roster with proven Code S experience. They're not IM or SlayerS, but they'll do well enough to justify 3 points.
Anti Team
+ Show Spoiler +4 Line - Did well in the Super Tournament, but now that his muta-heavy style is known I expect it will be figured out. 4 Maka - He's shown lately that he's not bad, but Prime has better options. Overvalued. 5 San - I see NSHoSeo playing him often since he has the most established results on the team, but I don't see the team doing well.
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EPT
