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Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
August 23 2011 14:51 GMT
#2681
F.United and oGs is the only teams that have two more games to play.

I kind of wanna trade Taeja for a oGs guy. But as always: oGs lineup cant be predicted. Kinda thinking about TOP, he seems to be doing quite good now, but maybe he'll just go for code S practise. Baaaah.

Also, with MLG and DH invitational, Naniwa got one or no GSTL games left. So im a little tempted to trade him away, maybe for Sage. But I think that Tassadar may take the first game. Then Puzzle will go on rampage - four straight wins.

Anyway. Looking forward for next season. I hope some more aces than DRG and Bomber will prove their worth, too even it up a little. Also, remind me of not picking Killer for my antiteam and getting scared into trading him for Bomber. T_T
he he... ja
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
August 23 2011 16:55 GMT
#2682
Who's the safer bet: BBoong or Jjaki? Debating who to trade Taeja for.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
August 23 2011 16:57 GMT
#2683
BBong, he already have a match, and his chances of playing are higher.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 22:55:25
August 23 2011 22:55 GMT
#2684
On August 24 2011 01:57 antilyon wrote:
BBong, he already have a match, and his chances of playing are higher.

This made me chuckle following the statement preceding it Solid advice though. mrbamboo keeps talking Jjakji up though...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:23:41
August 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#2685
That's because Jjakji is like the most legit player on NsHoSeo. Just watch him in the iccup korean weekly and you'll see his true skill. Some of the most amazing marine control in TvZ. He's solid in all matchups which makes him the ideal fantasy player.

Everyone else is sort of meh. Sage is good but his unit control is really poor and it shows. Tassadar has been slumping pretty hard since his Code A run. Seal beat Bomber, yea... but that's about it.

I wouldn't necessarily look to trade for jjakji though. ZeNEX isn't a very deep team anymore (with CoCa leaving). They are strong at the start (byun) and end (puzzle). But in between, they field line, kyrix, hack or core. Not exactly an amazing lineup.

If byun beats tassadar, then Sage will probably come out. If he beats byun, he will go on a streak and take down 2-3 players. This doesn't leave much chance for jjakji. On the other hand, if tassadar beats byun, then jjakji has more of a chance to do some damage because than NsHoSeo could bring out jjakji second.

I think part of it is wishful thinking on mrbamboos part
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:35:26
August 23 2011 23:31 GMT
#2686
On August 24 2011 08:17 DoomsVille wrote:
That's because Jjakji is like the most legit player on NsHoSeo. Just watch him in the iccup korean weekly and you'll see his true skill. Some of the most amazing marine control in TvZ. He's solid in all matchups which makes him the ideal fantasy player.

Everyone else is sort of meh. Sage is good but his unit control is really poor and it shows. Tassadar has been slumping pretty hard since his Code A run. Seal beat Bomber, yea... but that's about it.

I wouldn't necessarily look to trade for jjakji though. ZeNEX isn't a very deep team anymore (with CoCa leaving). They are strong at the start (byun) and end (puzzle). But in between, they field line, kyrix, hack or core. Not exactly an amazing lineup.

If byun beats tassadar, then Sage will probably come out. If he beats byun, he will go on a streak and take down 2-3 players. This doesn't leave much chance for jjakji. On the other hand, if tassadar beats byun, then jjakji has more of a chance to do some damage because than NsHoSeo could bring out jjakji second.

I think part of it is wishful thinking on mrbamboos part


Coca was only really good at ZvP... They have Line as well, I don't think Tassadar will beat Byun, sage is the only on one NSHS (maybe Seal/Sculp) that can beat Byun. Then Puzzle cleans up Sage (sage is terrible at PvP watch Korean Weekly, he tries to Fast Expand its funny). ZeNEX is not as terrible as it seems. Thorzain will most likely beat BbongbongPrime his vT is not that good if you watched him v Nada in GSTL. Ganzi is almost a TvZ sniper so I don't see Cezanne winning.

On August 23 2011 11:20 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 08:25 skrzmark wrote:
I would get BbongbongPrime or TeriusPrime FUnited seems very Zerg snipe-able, Puzzle + Byun will all kill NSHS I only can see Sage taking out Byun and Puzzle will most definitely take out Sage because of his terrible control.

Thorzain > Bbongbong
Ganzi > Cezanne
Byun > Tassadar



Jjakji reverse all kill ZENEX. No problem. This is how I will win the fantasy league.


lol, Jjakji will lose to Byun.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
sYstim
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 24 2011 00:44 GMT
#2687
On August 24 2011 01:55 mordek wrote:
Who's the safer bet: BBoong or Jjaki? Debating who to trade Taeja for.


my advice: keep taeja
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
August 24 2011 01:31 GMT
#2688
Damn I need to pick up an NSH or Zenex player, but I can't decide.

Gonna trade either Alicia or Taeja. But I could pick up Jjakji, Byun, Tassadar, or Puzzle. (Or Seal or San?)

ARGH I can't decide!!! Help!
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
August 24 2011 01:38 GMT
#2689
On August 23 2011 02:32 Archerylady wrote:
hmm rank 9 without any trades. i wonder how high i can finish without trading.


Holy shit. :X

If only you'd picked a better anti team, lol!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
August 24 2011 02:18 GMT
#2690
On August 24 2011 09:44 sYstim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 01:55 mordek wrote:
Who's the safer bet: BBoong or Jjaki? Debating who to trade Taeja for.


my advice: keep taeja

Why? He just got an all-kill, normally they don't come out again the next week. Ganzi's all killing anyways
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
OSTL
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 03:21:01
August 24 2011 03:20 GMT
#2691
Thinking of trading Hero (doubt he'll play) for Ganzi and SocceR (because of his really poor performance so far) for Cezanne. Ganzi and Cezanne play each other, so one of them has to win. That will give me two points to even out the trade tax. One of their teams will also win, so that gives me one additional point no matter what. Can someone confirm that my calculations are correct? How does this idea sound?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2011 03:26 GMT
#2692
On August 24 2011 12:20 OSTL wrote:
Thinking of trading Hero (doubt he'll play) for Ganzi and SocceR (because of his really poor performance so far) for Cezanne. Ganzi and Cezanne play each other, so one of them has to win. That will give me two points to even out the trade tax. One of their teams will also win, so that gives me one additional point no matter what. Can someone confirm that my calculations are correct? How does this idea sound?


your correct but why so safe... if you dont finish in first what does it matter?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
August 24 2011 03:35 GMT
#2693
On August 24 2011 12:20 OSTL wrote:
Thinking of trading Hero (doubt he'll play) for Ganzi and SocceR (because of his really poor performance so far) for Cezanne. Ganzi and Cezanne play each other, so one of them has to win. That will give me two points to even out the trade tax. One of their teams will also win, so that gives me one additional point no matter what. Can someone confirm that my calculations are correct? How does this idea sound?


That's how it works.

I had both soccer and taeja last week. I already had soccer, and no way was I not going to get taeja just because I had soccer. It wasn't that intentional though.

Funny enough, at the moment the both of them are my 2 trades...
OSTL
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 04:29:24
August 24 2011 04:07 GMT
#2694
On August 24 2011 12:26 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 12:20 OSTL wrote:
Thinking of trading Hero (doubt he'll play) for Ganzi and SocceR (because of his really poor performance so far) for Cezanne. Ganzi and Cezanne play each other, so one of them has to win. That will give me two points to even out the trade tax. One of their teams will also win, so that gives me one additional point no matter what. Can someone confirm that my calculations are correct? How does this idea sound?


your correct but why so safe... if you dont finish in first what does it matter?


I guess I'm not sure if I have any alternatives that make sense. I could trade Taeja, TheStC, or TOP for Byun, but oGs has two games left, so both TheStC and TOP have a pretty good chance of playing. Both SlayerS and ZeNEX have only one game left, so if I trade for Byun and he loses, that's it. In any case, I am not very confident in Byun against Tassadar, and I think that even if Tassadar loses, NSH has a better team. BBongBbong should lose to Thorzain, so making a trade there doesn't really make sense to me either. Thanks for your input. I'll definitely weigh these trades against the SocceR and Hero dump since the season is coming to an end.

Edit: I guess really, Taeja for Byun and Hero for Ganzi might be a good option if I'm going to be less safe. Definitely could earn more points if both of them catch fire.
Swap
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
August 24 2011 07:07 GMT
#2695
On August 24 2011 13:07 OSTL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 12:26 Mattchew wrote:
On August 24 2011 12:20 OSTL wrote:
Thinking of trading Hero (doubt he'll play) for Ganzi and SocceR (because of his really poor performance so far) for Cezanne. Ganzi and Cezanne play each other, so one of them has to win. That will give me two points to even out the trade tax. One of their teams will also win, so that gives me one additional point no matter what. Can someone confirm that my calculations are correct? How does this idea sound?


your correct but why so safe... if you dont finish in first what does it matter?


I guess I'm not sure if I have any alternatives that make sense. I could trade Taeja, TheStC, or TOP for Byun, but oGs has two games left, so both TheStC and TOP have a pretty good chance of playing. Both SlayerS and ZeNEX have only one game left, so if I trade for Byun and he loses, that's it. In any case, I am not very confident in Byun against Tassadar, and I think that even if Tassadar loses, NSH has a better team. BBongBbong should lose to Thorzain, so making a trade there doesn't really make sense to me either. Thanks for your input. I'll definitely weigh these trades against the SocceR and Hero dump since the season is coming to an end.

Edit: I guess really, Taeja for Byun and Hero for Ganzi might be a good option if I'm going to be less safe. Definitely could earn more points if both of them catch fire.


Save StC and TOP. Nada will go to MLG this weekend, which increase their chances of play a looot imo
he he... ja
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2011 14:31 GMT
#2696
primary goal: win this damn thing

secondary goal: carry me and my friend to first place group (BRFSCL)

3rd Goal: place 1st in protoss users
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
August 24 2011 15:16 GMT
#2697
On August 24 2011 12:35 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 12:20 OSTL wrote:
Thinking of trading Hero (doubt he'll play) for Ganzi and SocceR (because of his really poor performance so far) for Cezanne. Ganzi and Cezanne play each other, so one of them has to win. That will give me two points to even out the trade tax. One of their teams will also win, so that gives me one additional point no matter what. Can someone confirm that my calculations are correct? How does this idea sound?


That's how it works.

I had both soccer and taeja last week. I already had soccer, and no way was I not going to get taeja just because I had soccer. It wasn't that intentional though.

Funny enough, at the moment the both of them are my 2 trades...


In the same situation, trading Taeja and Soccer ^^

Think I've decided BBoong for my trade instead of Jjakji.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
August 24 2011 15:26 GMT
#2698
On August 24 2011 12:20 OSTL wrote:
Thinking of trading Hero (doubt he'll play) for Ganzi and SocceR (because of his really poor performance so far) for Cezanne. Ganzi and Cezanne play each other, so one of them has to win. That will give me two points to even out the trade tax. One of their teams will also win, so that gives me one additional point no matter what. Can someone confirm that my calculations are correct? How does this idea sound?

It is correct. Only problem is it is too safe. I did a similiar thing at Bomber vs Mvp. I knew a winner would get at least 3-4 kills so it paid off. I think you should rather get ganzi because Cezzane is not so strong.
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
August 25 2011 03:40 GMT
#2699
traded Hero for Ganzi. I kept Taeja, so hope he goes and all kills OGS!!! :D
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
August 25 2011 03:52 GMT
#2700
I would get Zenio. And MMA they haven't used MMA since Week 1 that's preposterous.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
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