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DaggothReborn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States121 Posts
April 05 2011 15:13 GMT
#1
I was lucky enough to get a Beta key to Starcraft 2 within the first week of their release. So I've pretty much been in the SC2 scene since the beginning. When i first started, like many others, I stumbled over Husky online. As soon as i found his channel, i watched every single video he put out on Youtube. I think i subscribed when he was around 30K subscribers. Serious hardcore Husky fan. As the months went on, i still watched Husky. Every. Single. Video. UNTIL.... I found Day[9]. I always heard of Day[9] from Broodwar, but never really watched his videos on Youtube. When i was in high-school, i was very hardcore into Broodwar. Played many local tournaments, got really into it. I knew of Day[9] from the BW scene, but, after i went off to high-school, I kind of got more into cars and photography. Back to Day[9], after i watched his Daily #100, it compelled me to get back into gaming. So I watched every Daily of his, UNTIL... The GOMtv GSL Open Season 1. This is where i really got into Starcraft. I now watch all the tournaments. All the IEM's, GSLs, GSTLs, MLGs, TSLs, Dreamhack, ect. ect... All the major tournaments, casted by all the major casters.

I watched the MLG this weekend (or rather, tried to, due to the streaming issues). While watching DJWheat, Day[9], and ItmeJP, I realized on how much i missed Tasteless and Artosis. Day[9] is good as a caster in my opinion. A GREAT analyst, but good caster. I HATED DJWheat when i first heard him on the TSL3, but he's slightly growing on me now that i basically spent 10 hours with him via the stream this weekend. I love ItmeJP on State of The Game, but as a caster.... He's no Tasteless or Artosis. Husky actually surprised me on how well he casted the TSL3. Going back to Huskies channel on Youtube, i can barely stand to watch any of his videos, but i was pleasantly surprised on how well he casted with a co-caster. TLO casting with Day[9] at the most recent IEM was slightly painful when comparing them to Tastetosis. I love TLO and his innovative play as much as the next person, but as a caster.... EGiNcontrol and Gretorp casting the show-match between EGIdrA and LiquidJinro was pretty trying for me. Most high-level players who try to cast usually come up lackluster to me, with the exception of Artosis and EGIdrA. When EGIdrA co-casted the GSL one night. I was actually shocked on how well he did.. But witch every tournament i watch, it leads me back to: "They are no Tasteless or Artosis."

I just finished watching the Round of 4 that happened last night on GOM. As soon as i heard Tasteless and Artosis i started feeling right at home.

Going back to my current situation, I've been coaching Zerg players recently, free of charge. I started two weeks ago. Since i started Coaching and streaming the sessions, i think I've coached about 40 hours between 12 or so players. Which don't sound like a lot, but i work as a Network Technician on a 40 hour week Monday-Friday. So all my free time goes straight into Starcraft. When im not watching tournaments, im either playing Starcraft (which hasn't been much lately since ive started free coaching), or coaching. Since i've started coaching, i have received thanks and gratitude from 4 separate top 200 zerg players on the N/A ladder. I was actually amazed that very high level players took time to shoot me a message. Felt slightly honored. But, i attribute me deciding to coach, to Tasteless and Artosis. The love and passion they have for the game is just unbelievable.

This has been a very odd post. And i would actually be surprised if anyone took time out of their day to hear me ramble-on about how much i appreciate these two casters.

When I think of Starcraft, my first thought is a Hydralisk :p, my second thought, is Tasteless and Artosis. Love you guys, keep it up! (and im very excited on how Artosis/Sixjax is going to do in the upcoming NASL)


TL;DR: Tasteless and Artosis, in my opinion, are hands down the most analytical, funny, and captivating casters that i have watched. And I've pretty much watched em' all!
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 15:22:13
April 05 2011 15:17 GMT
#2
This really belongs in a tastosis thread more than being its own thread.

or blogs.
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 15:33:30
April 05 2011 15:17 GMT
#3
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk).. as a caster, he is amazing. I would even put him ahead of Tasteless lately, as it seems Tasteless isnt as "passionate" about SC as he was back in earlier GOM events... Thats just how I feel, where as Artosis, you can really tell that guy lives and breathes starcraft.. Not only that, he understands casting and how to make it exciting and educational for the fans.

At this point, I really think even a major sports network could potentially hire Artosis to cast anything (assuming artosis knew the sport/event well enough).. but his control and intelligence as a caster (not just about the game, but casting itself) is phenomenal
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
April 05 2011 15:20 GMT
#4
I feel they are indeed some of the best casters at the moment, and mostly people are outwardly negative before they are positive and thankful. Gg casting archon much love
Look for the flaw that lost the game not the flaw in the game.
DaggothReborn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States121 Posts
April 05 2011 15:21 GMT
#5
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk).. as a caster, he is amazing. I would even put him ahead of Tasteless lately, as it seems Tasteless really lost his love for starcraft this past year and is just taking this as a job to keep him partying in korea... Thats just how I feel, where as Artosis, you can really tell that guy lives and breathes starcraft.. Not only that, he understands casting and how to make it exciting and educational for the fans.

At this point, I really think even a major sports network could potentially hire Artosis to cast anything (assuming artosis knew the sport/event well enough).. but his control and intelligence as a caster (not just about the game, but casting itself) is phenomenal


I agree 100%. I would honestly watch any sport he casted. I have turned about 5 friends onto the GSL. They dont even own starcraft, but love watching the GSL. I have a feeling they keep watching because how exciting they cast, and the amazing games that are played.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 15:27:27
April 05 2011 15:23 GMT
#6
Agree with op. With skyze, I disagree with the above and feel like tasteless has a legit love of the game.
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Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
April 05 2011 15:29 GMT
#7
I agree with the OP, but I'd put djHHHwheat and Day9 combo on par with them. Hell, even Day9 solo casting would be equally enjoyable to me.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 05 2011 15:30 GMT
#8
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk)..

Out of curiosity, has that even happened recently (not calling you out, curious actually)? I haven't seen an Artosis post in ages lol, so long ago TT

Besides that, agree with everything else you said and the OP. Amazing combo that never gets enough praise imo. And especially Artosis as a caster, not only amazing analytically but loses a bit of appreciation when besides Tasteless as just a shoutcaster. At one of the most recent days of GSL WC, they were really just comparing voices and talking about the Tasteless voice and such, and how Artosis rarely gets hoarse, and has a VERY consistent and clear voice even though he's casting just as much as Tasteless (who uses a specialized speaking voice on-air, or so it seems).

Tastosis for life. Actually its funny, I had the exact same introduction to SC2 as the OP:

On April 06 2011 00:13 DaggothReborn wrote:
As the months went on, i still watched Husky. Every. Single. Video. UNTIL.... I found Day[9]. ....... So I watched every Daily of his, UNTIL... The GOMtv GSL Open Season 1. This is where i really got into Starcraft. I now watch all the tournaments. All the IEM's, GSLs, GSTLs, MLGs, TSLs, Dreamhack, ect. ect... All the major tournaments, casted by all the major casters.

That's how I would describe my SC2 roots as well, nearly word for word.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
April 05 2011 15:31 GMT
#9
On April 06 2011 00:23 Bill Murray wrote:
Agree with op. With skyze, I disagree with the above and feel like tasteless has a legit love of the game.


he does, but its not as much as the earlier GOM events, like if you go watch Tasteless from 2008.. now Tasteless like commonly forgets names of units/buildings and junk.. sometimes even repeats things artosis just said 2 seconds before.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
duartesito
Profile Joined March 2010
Dominican Republic32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 15:34:35
April 05 2011 15:31 GMT
#10
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk).. as a caster, he is amazing. I would even put him ahead of Tasteless lately, as it seems Tasteless really lost his love for starcraft this past year and is just taking this as a job to keep him partying in korea... Thats just how I feel, where as Artosis, you can really tell that guy lives and breathes starcraft.. Not only that, he understands casting and how to make it exciting and educational for the fans.

At this point, I really think even a major sports network could potentially hire Artosis to cast anything (assuming artosis knew the sport/event well enough).. but his control and intelligence as a caster (not just about the game, but casting itself) is phenomenal


This + OP = almost completely agree. I can only disagree with the Tasteless part, he loves SC just not the same way as before. Not less, just different. Tastosis is in a different dimension than everyone else. At first it was kind of awkward, but now they just nail pretty much everything!

They remind me of Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg, the UFC commentators.
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 15:35:04
April 05 2011 15:33 GMT
#11
On April 06 2011 00:13 DaggothReborn wrote:
watched em' all!


Gotta watch them all! But seriously watching isn't enough you need to catch them too.

And yes they are awesome :D
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
andy186
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1058 Posts
April 05 2011 15:35 GMT
#12
Many people say tasteless repeats artosis but for me i have actually heard artosis repeat tasteless more.

But those 2 are definately amazing casters and i enjoy everything they do
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
April 05 2011 15:35 GMT
#13
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk).. as a caster, he is amazing. I would even put him ahead of Tasteless lately, as it seems Tasteless isnt as "passionate" about SC as he was back in earlier GOM events... Thats just how I feel, where as Artosis, you can really tell that guy lives and breathes starcraft.. Not only that, he understands casting and how to make it exciting and educational for the fans.

At this point, I really think even a major sports network could potentially hire Artosis to cast anything (assuming artosis knew the sport/event well enough).. but his control and intelligence as a caster (not just about the game, but casting itself) is phenomenal


I don't blame him (tasteless) If you played bw since you were little i would find it hard to belive if you liked sc2 more than bw.
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
April 05 2011 15:39 GMT
#14
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:I would even put him ahead of Tasteless lately, as it seems Tasteless really lost his love for starcraft this past year and is just taking this as a job to keep him partying in korea...


LOL what? Might want to leave baseless remarks out of your comment next time.


On topic, I love Tastosis too. Like your friend, I don't actually even own the game. I played during the beta for like 2 weeks at most. Actually, aside from those few days, I had never touched an RTS game before in my life. I'm actually not even a gamer LOL, but Tasteless and Artosis really make the whole esports buzzword have truth behind it. Like when people watch x sport and they don't actually play or ever played said x sport. Really entertaining, and after my initiation with them, I like watching the rest of all the other events / tourneys too, but GSL remains at the top mostly thanks to them.


Tastosis fighting
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
April 05 2011 15:40 GMT
#15
On April 06 2011 00:35 Sandrosuperstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk).. as a caster, he is amazing. I would even put him ahead of Tasteless lately, as it seems Tasteless isnt as "passionate" about SC as he was back in earlier GOM events... Thats just how I feel, where as Artosis, you can really tell that guy lives and breathes starcraft.. Not only that, he understands casting and how to make it exciting and educational for the fans.

At this point, I really think even a major sports network could potentially hire Artosis to cast anything (assuming artosis knew the sport/event well enough).. but his control and intelligence as a caster (not just about the game, but casting itself) is phenomenal


I don't blame him (tasteless) If you played bw since you were little i would find it hard to belive if you liked sc2 more than bw.


I disagree with that, ive been playing SC1 since I was 12 (im 23 now) and I genuinely like SC2 more. I may miss the old days of Ladder Challenges with Nazgul/etc, or even early X17 days, but as far as the game itself and the "fun" factor, SC2 is great so far. I honestly think the majority of people feel the same. SC2 is brand new, has some kinks, but so far is pretty damn amazing. Its fresh and new.

Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
god_forbids
Profile Joined October 2010
United States111 Posts
April 05 2011 15:40 GMT
#16
On April 06 2011 00:30 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 00:13 DaggothReborn wrote:
As the months went on, i still watched Husky. Every. Single. Video. UNTIL.... I found Day[9]. ....... So I watched every Daily of his, UNTIL... The GOMtv GSL Open Season 1. This is where i really got into Starcraft. I now watch all the tournaments. All the IEM's, GSLs, GSTLs, MLGs, TSLs, Dreamhack, ect. ect... All the major tournaments, casted by all the major casters.

That's how I would describe my SC2 roots as well, nearly word for word.
Put me in for a plus one on this, except that it's mainly been the GS(T)Ls and TSL3 because of incredible fail skills on the part of other tournament producers and promoters. That and, some part of me has become really "Korean elitist", feeling that only the Koreans and foreigners in Korea are truly worth watching. TSL3 is changing that but GSW(T)L kinda confirmed it for me.
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BGrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany229 Posts
April 05 2011 15:42 GMT
#17
For me, Artosis has grown to become the best caster I know. He has always been great on the analytical site, and for a while now he has really improved his casting as well. Tastosis is great; sometimes I actually turn on GomTV more to listen than to watch.
xTNodub
Profile Joined January 2011
United States84 Posts
April 05 2011 15:47 GMT
#18
OH! Archon, Like 2 high templars?

Just got that..
itgi eopgi geureogi
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
April 05 2011 15:53 GMT
#19
Tasteless and Artosis are awesome, but it's still no SuperDanielMan/Tasteless.

Tasteless was way more analytical about Brood War than he is about SC2, while still being incredibly funny. I wouldn't say he lost his passion, though. SC2 is still incredibly new, with builds being invented every five minutes, whereas he has been playing Brood War for a decade and knew the game like the back of his hand. He probably doesn't play SC2 as intensively as he played Brood War back in the day, either
wDDelete
Profile Joined March 2011
103 Posts
April 05 2011 16:13 GMT
#20
Tastosis are awesome. Back in GOM's BW days they gave tasteless the mic and said GO. Now his job is to repeat the sponsors and ask for money, like the crippled critter on destination, "Hey you guys got a dollar". Hardcore tasteless fans will know what i'm talking about Lol.

Tasteless knows artosis is up to date on korean ladders, strats and leaves him to do the analysis and he just points things out for the noobs. I agree with the OP and currently they are by far the best duo.

Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
April 05 2011 23:57 GMT
#21
On April 06 2011 00:40 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 00:35 Sandrosuperstar wrote:
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk).. as a caster, he is amazing. I would even put him ahead of Tasteless lately, as it seems Tasteless isnt as "passionate" about SC as he was back in earlier GOM events... Thats just how I feel, where as Artosis, you can really tell that guy lives and breathes starcraft.. Not only that, he understands casting and how to make it exciting and educational for the fans.

At this point, I really think even a major sports network could potentially hire Artosis to cast anything (assuming artosis knew the sport/event well enough).. but his control and intelligence as a caster (not just about the game, but casting itself) is phenomenal


I don't blame him (tasteless) If you played bw since you were little i would find it hard to belive if you liked sc2 more than bw.


I disagree with that, ive been playing SC1 since I was 12 (im 23 now) and I genuinely like SC2 more. I may miss the old days of Ladder Challenges with Nazgul/etc, or even early X17 days, but as far as the game itself and the "fun" factor, SC2 is great so far. I honestly think the majority of people feel the same. SC2 is brand new, has some kinks, but so far is pretty damn amazing. Its fresh and new.


And i totally agree it is both fresh and new which is what makes me watch and play in. But be it because the fact that bw have had a chance to evolve or some other reason, bw is currently a better game at heart for the player that plays for a challenge and intricacy. And if you breathe starcraft i can see how this could make you itch for bw when playing sc2.

Just saying that this could be the reason but then you don't see Day or Artosis go sulking so i could be wrong. Personally i believe that tasteless will become more interesting as the game deepens. :D
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Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
April 06 2011 00:19 GMT
#22
I must admit, I would watch Bronze/Silver level players if it were cast by Tastosis. Same with Day9. I love djWheat, JP, iNcontroL, and Gretorp, but their names alone aren't enough to draw me in like the main 3.
Carkis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada302 Posts
April 06 2011 01:53 GMT
#23
they do an amazing job, the love of the game is amazing and they combine solid analysis with wayyy too funny casting they make the GSL what it is (john rocks too haha)
tw!tch
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States563 Posts
April 06 2011 02:05 GMT
#24
On April 06 2011 00:30 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 00:17 Skyze wrote:
It is true, while I have to disagree with most of the stuff Artosis writes on this site (his imbalance whiny junk)..

Out of curiosity, has that even happened recently (not calling you out, curious actually)? I haven't seen an Artosis post in ages lol, so long ago TT


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