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United States238 Posts
An interesting tidbit from thisisgame.
Many famous Korean SC2 progamers were polled on who might win and why.
Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=580352&board=&category=13438&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token=
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TSL.FruitDealer
Bets on: MarineKingPrime.WE Win, by 4:1 or 4:2
Comment: In the case of the finals, it is not something you know the results just by seeing the skills of the players.
Especially so, in such a big event like the finals, the tension is simply ridiculous. IMmvp does not yet have any experience being in a finals, and it will all boil down to how well he'll handle being there. It might just be a difference of one finals between the two, the experience difference itself cannot be ignored. Therefore, I foresee MarineKingPrime.WE to win.
IMJunwi
Bets on: IMmvp Win, by 4:1
Comment: There is no way to defeat IMmvp with just marine-based play. Of course, there's no meaning to the name of "Marine King" if he doesn't use any Marines. Even if he brings a totally new strategy never shown before, he will not break down the great wall of IMmvp.
oGs.TheWinD
Bets on: Unpredictable, 4:3 Close Game
Comment: I can't guess who's going to win. Both are the current top Terran players right now. Whoever wins, I foresee a close game of 4:3.
HongUnPrime.WE
Comment: I don't give a damn about a Terran winning. Next season, a Protoss will surely win.
Jong-uk Won (STARTALE Coach)
Bets on: IMmvp Win, by 4:2
Comment: Both players should know how the other plays at this point, but I believe MarineKingPrime.WE's playstyle is likely to be very easy to deal with for IMmvp. MarineKingPrime.WE has a speedy, aggressive timing push as his style. In contrast, IMmvp's playstyle is around overall, very sturdy gameplay. It looks to be extremely challenging to defeat IMmvp's sturdy plays using Marine-oriented gameplay. Seeing that, I expect to see IMmvp to win.
oGsNada
Bets on: IMmvp Win, by 4:3
Comments: As a person who have battled both players, I can say that they are both good. To compare, IMmvp can bring a scary decisive push, but MarineKingPrime.WE has a better overall understanding of the game in my opinion. However, in TvT, I personally think IMmvp has an advantage. So, I decide that IMmvp will win with his decisiveness and his sturdy plays.
choyafOu
Bets on: IMmvp Win, by 4:2
Comments: I've faced both players before, and I think that IMmvp plays better. I even fell Into despair thinking, "What can I do to defeat him?". Of course, MarineKingPrime.WE also plays very well, but still, IMmvp is just a bit more ahead of him.
CheckPrime.WE
Bets on: MarineKingPrime.WE Win, by 4:3
Comments: Within the Prime team itself, there are many Terran players such as MakaPrime.WE and HannibalPrime.WE. He can certainly practice with other teams, but the fact he is able to practice while sharing real-time comments give MarineKingPrime.WE an edge over IMmvp. IMmvp should not think that he is just taking on MarineKingPrime.WE. He should do well to think that he is taking on all of Prime's Terran.
SlayerSBoxeR
Bets on: Unpredictable, 4:3 Close Game
Comments: With recent plays and their momentum, I cannot predict who will win. Both players will certainly bring variety of plays, but I expect that in the end, we will see the end of 1 Barrack Double play. There won't be a lopsided results this time, and I foresee a 4:3 close match.
IMNesTea
Bets on: IMmvp Win, 4:1
Comments: It's clear to me that IMmvp has this. I've personally seen how strong he is in the recent finals in an event tournament. I don't think there's anyone who can defeat him. In fact, I had to put in more effort preparing for the finals vs. MarineKingPrime.WE than the actual finals match I had against him. To date, the best player -- including Terrans and everyone else -- is IMmvp, bar none.
oGsMC
Bets on: MarineKingPrime.WE Win, 4:3
Comments: It is very difficult to predict due to both players being incredibly talented. Both have excellent understanding of Terran race, as well as top play capacity. But personally, I want to see MarineKingPrime.WE to win. Don't you think achieving a second place two times in a row, a little cruel?
FOXMoon
Bets on: IMmvp Win, 4:3
Comments: Recently, IMmvp has been on a roll moreso than MarineKingPrime.WE. It is difficult to stop a momentum like that. In order for MarineKingPrime.WE to win, he must bring variety of tactics for every match, but even so, wouldn't it still be difficult to defeat IMmvp?
Genius
Bets on: IMmvp Win, 4:2
Comments: The results from the recent event tournament seem to tell ahead of time who's going to win. IMmvp of today is too strong. Only weakness he has is whether he can deal with being in the center stage of the finals, but I believe IMNesTea can help him with that. So, there is no weakness whatsoever for IMmvp this finals.
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On January 27 2011 13:58 HongUnPrime.WE wrote:
Comment: I don't give a F about a Terran winning. Next season, a Protoss will surely win.
I lol'ed at this. His hatred of terran is so much he doesn't even support his own teammate??
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I love hongunprimes comment, made me lol
My bet is IMmvp 4-2
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United States7481 Posts
Thanks for translating this, I remember similar progamer polls for sweet finals like FvJ or proleague in BW. Hongun cracked me up, lol
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Thanks for translating. Fun read.
Hongun is funny.
Personally, I'm with TheWind. I can't really predict a winner, I believe either could take it.
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Hahahaha that's why I cheer for HongUn!
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Hahah Hongun is so funny. Hopefully his prediction for next season comes true.
MVP 4-2 fo sho
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Australia8532 Posts
Wow HongUn is a bit of a fool for that comment.. i hope it was meant as a joke but you can't really interpret tone in a written interview.. oh well..
I like this .. there is a lot of faith in MKP .. i thought MVP would be the favourite hands down.. oh well, it should be a super close series (i hope)!
Thanks for the translation 
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HongUn is awesome. I'm rooting for MKP. Can't wait!
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I hope they do this for all future GSL's
This is probably my favorite article type thing I have seen regarding the GSL so far
I lol'd when I saw Hongun's comment and was surprised they put it in there still
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Woo! Go Mvp! Although MKP winning wouldn't be bad either! as long as it's a Terran! :D
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United States238 Posts
On January 27 2011 14:09 Ysorigin wrote:
I hope they do this for all future GSL's
This is probably my favorite article type thing I have seen regarding the GSL so far
I lol'd when I saw Hongun's comment and was surprised they put it in there still
Hongun's actual comment is not that harsh though. Literally translated, it would be more like "I'm not interested in seeing a Terran winning", but the fact he didn't even comment on who might win, and his original sentence is on a condescending tone (따위 is used, which is to see something in a low regards or condescending), I decided my translation would go well with it.
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Nestea considers MVP a god or something, lol
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lol HongUn's terran hatred overcomes his support for his prime teammate.
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HongUnPrime is on the ball.
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Baa?21242 Posts
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MVP is probably the most solid player on Earth right now both with his mechanics and his understanding of the game, but MKP has his miracle factor and godly split second decision making.
I say MKP 4:3 or 4:2.
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MC and MKP were teammates back in BW, I wonder if that influenced his decision anymore than just cruel of being 2nd twice, i also wonder if what MKP promised Jinro about winning had anything to do with it.
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I agree with MC's comment. MKP please show that MVP isn't invincible.
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I think Koreans might see that us (foreigners) might think HongUn of a D*CK with that comment. So i advise to change it more appropriate so nothing stirs up around the clouds. Nevertheless, i lol'd
i say 4-2 either of them tbh, but i see marine king winning from his deadly ass drops when IMmvp is pushing. I am going to quote this if My predictions are true ^_^
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United States17042 Posts
It's fun reading this with a perspective of where each player has come from and what kind of experience each player has on the final stage. For example, Moon's comments hold a lot of weight weight me, as do fruitdealers, becuase they have both been on the big stage (many many times in moons case).
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Hahahaha, HongUn.
Surprisingly even, I thought the vast majority would vouch for MVP as he has been considered an unstoppable force throughout this season.
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HungUn with the best comment, anyways thanks for the translation! I think it's going to be a close series and I'm glad lot's of the pro's acknowledge that and don't think it will be a rofl-stomp, some people not giving MKP enough credit. I think it's going to be a 4-3 but for whom I do not know.
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United States1388 Posts
HongUn just gained a few points in my book.
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Don't understand comments like "MKP has a better understanding of the game" when both of them are top of top players.
If they haven't fully understood the game, they don't deserve to be in the finals.
Whoever said that doesn't know what he's talking about, either that, or the translation is off.
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On January 27 2011 14:56 Crt wrote:
Don't understand comments like "MKP has a better understanding of the game" when both of them are top of top players.
If they haven't fully understood the game, they don't deserve to be in the finals.
Whoever said that doesn't know what he's talking about, either that, or the translation is off.
You'd be hard pressed to find a single pro who thinks they have a complete understanding of the game.
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On January 27 2011 14:56 Crt wrote:
Don't understand comments like "MKP has a better understanding of the game" when both of them are top of top players.
If they haven't fully understood the game, they don't deserve to be in the finals.
Whoever said that doesn't know what he's talking about, either that, or the translation is off.
You're reading it wrong.
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United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
HongUn seeks revenge
ogsTheWind is on the ball
MVP and MarineKing both ballers - don't mind either of them winning.
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This definitely deserves to be news'd. This is a great translation and is really cool for us to see.
I agree with Check, though. MKP has a ton of good Terrans to work with, whereas IM doesn't have many strong Terrans (I can't think of any well knowns, except MVP). I've played with HannibalPrime before too, and damn, he's really good.
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with the way mkp plays could swing either way. jinro/mkp game 1 looked so one sided until mkp did that drop on his unit producing buildings then it looked like he could actually win. I think there will be a couple games just like that when he faces mvp, which is good because those have all been really entertaining games.
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On January 27 2011 13:58 Selith wrote:
HongUnPrime.WE
Jealous much that a team mate has made it to the finals twice?
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On January 27 2011 15:06 Wolf wrote:
This definitely deserves to be news'd. This is a great translation and is really cool for us to see.
I agree with Check, though. MKP has a ton of good Terrans to work with, whereas IM doesn't have many strong Terrans (I can't think of any well knowns, except MVP). I've played with HannibalPrime before too, and damn, he's really good.
How about IMGanZi? Top 8 in Gainward Tournament. Also 29th in this weeks top 200 list.
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Ahahahah, oh HongUnPrime.
Great article. Love to see the opinions of the pros on who's going to win.
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United States7481 Posts
Oh by the way congratulations to Selith for fitting an appropriate title into the character limit. With all that needs to be said it's quite the feat to get it all in.
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LOL hongun wins this thread
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I'm a bit surprised by NaDa's MarineKing love. Or, well, not love, but "better overall understanding of the game" is a pretty good compliment when you're comparing him to MVP.
Also, HongUn . . .
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HongUn represent! For all the brotoss out there woooooo!
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MVP on a 25-3 tournament streak, and 3-1'd MarineKing in the Gainward finals. It might affect MK's mental state going into the match.
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Rofl Hongun I really hope MVP wins since he is a better player in my eyes but MKP is sooo goood also this is gunna be a really good final
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HongUn for best comment.
I'm surprised people are saying MVP understands the game better. Whatever else you think of MarineKing, he's repeatedly wiggled his way out of terrible situations by cleverness.
MVP is certainly solid, but he doesn't seem to react well to creative play very well. MarineKing uses his speedy marines to get early map control, expand a ton, harass with drops, and basically play a better Zerg than most Zergs. He's very good at analyzing even the tiniest weaknesses in opponent's play, and abusing the hell out of them.
I agree with Nada's analysis of the players ("IMmvp can bring a scary decisive push, but MarineKingPrime.WE has a better overall understanding of the game in my opinion"), though.
I predict MKP will try to force a base race at least once. Not just because he does that, but because I think it would be a good move.
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lol... I think I am a fan of hongun now..
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IMMVP got this really.. there was a recent tournament finals that he played MKP and steamrolled him 3:0.
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On January 27 2011 16:27 sniperb wrote:
IMMVP got this really.. there was a recent tournament finals that he played MKP and steamrolled him 3:0.
If you are referring to the Gainward Tourney it was actually 3-1
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Love HongUn's comment, almost makes up for him beating FD in GSL3
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Nice read thanks OP.
Can somebody tell me what Nestea means with this?
IMNesTea
Bets on: IMmvp Win, 4:1
Comments: It's clear to me that IMmvp has this. I've personally seen how strong he is in the recent finals in an event tournament. I don't think there's anyone who can defeat him. In fact, I had to put in more effort preparing for the finals vs. MarineKingPrime.WE than the actual finals match last season. To date, the best player -- including Terrans and everyone else -- is IMmvp, bar none.
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HongUn...calling it out. TvT, while being very entertaining, are starting to get a little old. Still, this will be an interesting match.
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I had to put in more effort preparing for the finals vs. MarineKingPrime.WE than the actual finals match last season.
Shouldn't this be semi-finals vs IMMVP?
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In fact, I had to put in more effort preparing for the finals vs. MarineKingPrime.WE than the actual finals match last season. To date, the best player -- including Terrans and everyone else -- is IMmvp, bar none.
Wait i don't get it, he says how good IMMVP is but then says he needed to practice more for MKP then anyone else?
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United States238 Posts
Updated; I forgot S2 != S3
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oGsNada
Bets on: IMmvp Win, by 4:3
Comments: As a person who have battled both players, I can say that they are both good. To compare, IMmvp can bring a scary decisive push, but MarineKingPrime.WE has a better overall understanding of the game in my opinion. However, in TvT, I personally think IMmvp has an advantage. So, I decide that IMmvp will win with his decisiveness and his sturdy plays.
NaDa decides who the GSL winner is, that's how he rolls
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great stuff, some players really showing their personality. Hongun hates terran, we have something in common! :D
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oh and by the way
SlayerSBoxeR
Bets on: Unpredictable, 4:3 Close Game
Comments: With recent plays and their momentum, I cannot predict who will win. Both players will certainly bring variety of plays, but I expect that in the end, we will see the end of 1 Barrack Double play. There won't be a lopsided results this time, and I foresee a 4:3 close match.
that's how Koreans call 1 rax expand in english
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Thanks for translating that very interesting read. Goes to show that even the Korean pros who are alot closer to these players then we are; Are very much split on their decisions.
I think it definitely will be very close series overall (of course now that I have stated that it probably will not be). I give MKP the edge though. His aggressive style probably will not hurt MVP too much, but will most likely throw him off-kilter.
Also I was already a HungUn fan, but that comment is too funny. Makes me like him even more! :D
This is gonna be a great finals. Can not wait!
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lol @ hongun not backing his teammate
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On January 27 2011 18:08 cArn- wrote:oh and by the way Show nested quote +
SlayerSBoxeR
Bets on: Unpredictable, 4:3 Close Game
Comments: With recent plays and their momentum, I cannot predict who will win. Both players will certainly bring variety of plays, but I expect that in the end, we will see the end of 1 Barrack Double play. There won't be a lopsided results this time, and I foresee a 4:3 close match.
that's how Koreans call 1 rax expand in english
thanks for the clarification, had no idea what that meant, and i have to agree with boxer at this point, i'm somewhat surprised that people havent just been rolling that build like it should be easy to do
I agree with all about hongun humour, seems like he has race loyalty before team loyalty
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On January 27 2011 14:02 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 13:58 HongUnPrime.WE wrote:
Comment: I don't give a F about a Terran winning. Next season, a Protoss will surely win.
I lol'ed at this. His hatred of terran is so much he doesn't even support his own teammate??
Terran. Because you have no self respect.
Protoss. Because you have no friends.
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I bet on MKP because until the finals MVP only played players easy for him , he hadnt a real test.. MVP didnt even got atacked in the groups , it was too easy .. MKP looks like he learns a lot from his mistakes , and he will put MVP in positions that he isnt used too nowadays.
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My prediction: MVP will 4:0 MKP...he is just too good...
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Well if boxer says its going to be 4:3, then thats how its going to be. Because the Emperor is never wrong.
I am really looking forward to this final. I am hoping for some long, epic TvT games like we used to see in BW.
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MVP is definetly the more deserving player.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Sounds about right, although I really don't agree with surveying players from Prime or IM. It's not like Nestea is gonna bet MKP over his teammate.
Hongun's answer is still pretty lol.
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Not surprised everyone is picking MVP, although I think MarineKing probably has the best shot of beating him out of anyone (except maybe MC), my prediction 4-2 MVP
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HongUn is my hero.
Can't wait for the finals either way, I'm thinking it's going to be close. MKP gogo!
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2 of the 3 previous winners said MKP. Go MKP! :D
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On January 27 2011 20:51 tapk69 wrote:
I bet on MKP because until the finals MVP only played players easy for him , he hadnt a real test.. MVP didnt even got atacked in the groups , it was too easy .. MKP looks like he learns a lot from his mistakes , and he will put MVP in positions that he isnt used too nowadays.
I agree with this. MVP is solid but MKP is def not gonna get steamrolled (unless he chokes). Twice to the finals, both with pretty hard paths isn't something you can do without some real skill.
Also, MKP has had quite a bit of TvT recently. The matchups MVP's been in have been quite a bit more diverse.
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MVP curb stomped foxer in the gainward tournament. so for that reason I think the people picking MVP are right on this one.
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This is the clash of the titans. I give MVP a little advantage but MKP is no pushover and he could very well surprise us.
But remember MVP vs Hyperdub on Metalopolis. Actualy this was the first display of a mass expand mass bio TvT, the very style that MKP used against Nada and Jinro.
Also don't be fooled byt MKP marine style, he can play different style if his main style is inneficient..
Really pumped about this serie.
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On January 27 2011 22:35 MrMotionPicture wrote:
2 of the 3 previous winners said MKP. Go MKP! :D
Well, MC was 50-50 and he gave it to MKP because he felt sorry for him, lol.
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Mkp will win 4 - 0 imo
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If MVP knows how to basetrade he will 4-0 MKP
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MK is like if freaking MacGyver went to ninjitsu school. Never count him out.
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Awesome comments, I guess there isn't even any need to ask for Jinro his opinion since they made that promisse right?
Go MKP please. Because you beat Jinro, you MUST beat mvp.
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I believe HongUn's prediction to be the most similar to the truth.
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Hongun just won himself a fan. Haha
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Hm, I wish we could get predictions from the rest of the progamers (EU, US, SEA...) that are following the TL forums and add them to the OP.
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I agree with Junwi and Nestea, I don't think it will be close. MKP is very talented, but MVP has this.
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MVP is clearly the best player, but MKP is a nutty guy. I predict 4:2 MVP
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Will be 4:3 either way. I do love MC's comment about coming in second twice is just cruel.
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LOL @ HungUn's comments :D
I like that guy even more now 
IMmvp 4:0 MKP.WE for me 
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Im really pulling for MKP. I just like his play. base trades and all...His style is so much more fun to watch than any other Terran player. I havent seen much from MVP besides just attacking with bunker rushes or early marine pushes.
Also, i laughed at what hongun said.
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predict MVP but cheering for MKP.... MKP's play style is just too damn fun to watch..... MKP fighting!!!!!
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On January 27 2011 18:03 cArn- wrote:Show nested quote +
oGsNada
Bets on: IMmvp Win, by 4:3
Comments: As a person who have battled both players, I can say that they are both good. To compare, IMmvp can bring a scary decisive push, but MarineKingPrime.WE has a better overall understanding of the game in my opinion. However, in TvT, I personally think IMmvp has an advantage. So, I decide that IMmvp will win with his decisiveness and his sturdy plays.
NaDa decides who the GSL winner is, that's how he rolls
hahahaha
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Thanks for the translation. ^^ It's always nice to hear progamers' thoughts and HongUn's answer in particular cracked me up. I'm going to go for 4:2 IMMvp.
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"HongUnPrime.WE
Comment: I don't give a damn about a Terran winning. Next season, a Protoss will surely win."
With the level of play you've been showing, It surely won't be you .....
Being cocky is okay when you can back it up ... we will see ....
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My vote is MKP 4:2. MVP's play is amazing and solid, and while MKP's play looks so flimsy and all-in, his decisionmaking is spot on. If he sees a weakness in your push, he will take advantage of it.
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omg when I read what HongUn said, I giggled like a little fan girl. That's such a weird yet baller thing to say. At least it's nice to see Check showing some team spirit in the prime house.
But this is really awesome to hear what all the top players think. It'd be great to see a survey like this every season.
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Hahaha hongun was probably on a v. terran losing streak when these interviewers came knocking. Reflexrage for the awesome~
Also, MC saying that it's a bit cruel to get 2nd in two finals? ----> will lol so hard if MKP = yellOw of sc2
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MKP will win 4:2 or 4:3.
ye even so all the odds are speaking for IMMvP.
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France12771 Posts
MKP is probably the only one who will really "give a run for his money" to MVP in this GSL, but even if he is not favored, I think he will win 4-2 or even 4-1, cuz it's MVP first final and MKP is just so good.
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I think it will go to MVP's nerves. He 3-0ed Nestea in the Gainward tourney, but in the semis of the GSL he didn't do as well for example
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rkiga
United States44 Posts
I laughed so hard after reading HongUn's prediction. Almost tearing up here. 
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On January 27 2011 13:58 Selith wrote:
HongUnPrime.WE
Comment: I don't give a damn about a Terran winning. Next season, a Protoss will surely win.
Victory.
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Mind says MVP but heart says MKP. In the end though I hope they just give an awesome series that extends all the way to 7 games.
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I don't know when the last time MVP played in a match as big as the GSL finals, but I predict he will be able to calm down by the 2nd and 3rd games and win 4:3
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Lol @ HongUn, thats pretty much my opinion. I think MVP will take it though, something like 4:2. MKP is a good player, but MVP is a strong player.
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I like HongUn comment . I say MKP wins 4-3.
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Would've loved it if one of the players said, "No matter who wins, the result will be the same as the previous 3 GSLs- a Terran ends up losing."
But I suppose I'll have to settle for Hong's words. :d
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HongUn having some fun with question. To those raging, don't take it too seriously he is most likely just joking.
As for the match, I think it will be pretty close. Unlike GSL3 where you pretty much knew who was going to win, this GSL has 2 very good players. I'm going to go with MKP though since a lot of people have been putting him down because of his style of play. He has excellent macro and micro and he has shown some crafty plays when being contained by a standard siege tank/infantry army. It wouldn't surprise me though if MVP wins.
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HongUn is sooo awsome!and by the way, I complitly agree with MC.
However...for me ,MKP 4:3 or 4:2.
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MKP please win! I believe you will
haha I'm glad that Fruit seem to confide in MK a lot. They're my favorites^^ I'm so happy for all the MK love ^^
P.S: HongUn.. I was like "What??" at first but yeah, he's a total baller ))))) Gonna pay more attention to him now ))
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Every translator seems to really exaggerate translations for some reason... x_x
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On January 29 2011 07:22 Vei wrote:
Every translator seems to really exaggerate translations for some reason... x_x
yea and some translators put their words/thoughts/opinions on parenthesis. I mean they are doing the work for our pleasure, but they should be focused on getting the message across in exact and entirety w/o any bias of the translator.
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EPT
