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Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
October 18 2010 10:56 GMT
#301
People are getting too bent out of shape just because there have been so few tournaments so far. Props to Huk for trying to please the crowd and it will probably make him a better player in the future. I think anybody with enough brass to go fast Mothership will go far.

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Mortecian
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada87 Posts
October 18 2010 11:31 GMT
#302
Yeah. If he had done this on GSL and got eliminated, people wouldn't have been pissed. But since this is only the biggest american tournament so far, it's OK for people to do stupidly risky strats/ throw games when facing elimination in the semi-finals.

I'm sorry, but -everyone- cheering for HuK would prefer to see him go to ro32 in GSL rather than doing a stupid mothership (unless he can make this works in 95% of his games) and get eliminated. And yes, these progamers want to, actually, do this for a living and for this, they need sponsors. Their sponsors want them to try 100% (No sponsor want their team to throw games or play for the giggles...). HuK is getting enough results that he wont catch too much shit for it, but I doubt he will do it again while facing elimination.

He said he wouldn't do it in the GSL, so why do it in the biggest American tournament? Is the American starcraft II scene just a joke? I doubt he will do it again from the vibe I got from post-game shows.

sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 18 2010 12:24 GMT
#303
-_- @ MLG for not having player booths.

Props to HuK for having the guts to do something stupid on paper. Maybe if Select didnt have so many scans saved up..? Or if that was a clutch vortex?

Looking forward to future wins with ridiculous play.
Phrencys
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada270 Posts
October 18 2010 13:05 GMT
#304
HuK, the Alexander Ovechkin of Starcraft II! Win or lose, everything is in the show!

HuK Fighting!
Slumbercat
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada20 Posts
October 18 2010 16:41 GMT
#305
On October 18 2010 22:05 Phrencys wrote:
HuK, the Alexander Ovechkin of Starcraft II! Win or lose, everything is in the show!

HuK Fighting!


this.
pobody's nerfect
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
October 18 2010 16:44 GMT
#306
He gave up after his crushing defeat in the first game.
What a loser mentality, can't support this shit.
wat
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
October 18 2010 16:47 GMT
#307
well if by being inventive you mean obsolete bo that got nerfed in the beta, sure. and vortex was super fail too.
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
October 18 2010 16:50 GMT
#308
I obviously enjoyed the mothership move and hearing the roar from the live audience was really cool, but i consider the sound-proff booths to be necessary in the future if SC2 is ment to continue growing outside of Korea.

I think it will get to a point where some serious money will be involved and things will have to be taken more seriously by HuK or any other pro-gamer wanting to deserve that status.

Anyway, great even by HuK played very well and the mothership made him a crowd / viewers favorite so maybe it will compensate him in the long run.

Peace.
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teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
October 18 2010 16:50 GMT
#309
HuK talks about his mothership rush in the last episode of State of the Game (SotG - 10.16.10 - Minicast): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494
413X
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden203 Posts
October 18 2010 16:56 GMT
#310
Does anyone have the video with day9, when they were commentating the game when he was going for the mothership rush? I can't find it anywhere :/
The pro noob
gundream
Profile Joined April 2010
United States229 Posts
October 18 2010 17:00 GMT
#311
HUK IS AWESOME!!! really seems like a player on the verge of becoming a great...in other news...

this guys IS a dickhole for making comments like that

On October 17 2010 13:24 Kexx wrote:
what a clown, knowing he can't win he starts to fuck around to get some publicity.

User was banned for this post and similar dick hole comments - love kennigit.

Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
October 18 2010 17:09 GMT
#312
It's awesome that the pros still realize that this is a game for fun and not a job where they have to be robotic and repetitive. Awesome Huk!
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RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
October 18 2010 17:11 GMT
#313
On October 18 2010 15:57 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 06:32 Ezze wrote:
It was beyond epic. Noone can deny that.


It was not epic. It was a silly stunt that resulted in a very one-sided match.


Again, correlation does not imply causation.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 17:58:15
October 18 2010 17:56 GMT
#314
The mothership rush is an actual build Huk practices. Hes done it in the past in tourneys and even won with it before. He didn't think select will attack when he did. If select held off his attack for a few more mins then I think Huk could have easily taken that game. He still almost did but the first failed vortex was gg for Huk.

Edit: Huk also put up a very good fight with that build. I'd say that game was closer than any of the games in the Finals. Because of that would you say select's builds are stupid?
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
October 18 2010 18:57 GMT
#315
Podcast help for me to gain some respect for HuK! Not a lot, but it sounds like he still threw the game, lolol. But I can't dislike him for that.
Never make a hydralisk.
Dspike
Profile Joined February 2010
United States18 Posts
October 18 2010 21:36 GMT
#316
my friends and I were in the crowd, and we went NUTS when huk threw down the fleet beacon (we talked to him earlier, and I think one of us had thrown the word "mothership" out). the Halo tourney was actually going on right next to us, and it was hard to hear the sc2 announcers over the sounds coming from the halo side (which was on three big screens in the middle of the auditorium).
+ Show Spoiler +

I was really frustrated with the vortex though, I assume it was a mis-click but it pretty much ruined the offensive...then getting the mothership sniped when it was stuck out by itself was pretty saddening . we were thinking "omg, a recall over select's main would be so epic".
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 18 2010 22:32 GMT
#317
Let me say first that I completely understand the people who are like "omg he threw the game, not serious, not professional, etc etc". I see where their arguments are coming from and I'm not going to argue against that (not that it would change anybody's mind anyway).

IMO though, some professions just aren't supposed to be "professional" to that extent - forcing those "values" upon people who do those jobs is often times counterproductive and harmful. When you take away a player's irrational passion for the game, personality, flair, frivolity, and yes even the ability to just say "fuck this, I'm not feeling this game tonight so I'm doing something goofy just for the heck of it" (just a hypothetical example), you're really not left with much. Least of all an interested audience that is large enough to be even rightly called an audience. On the other hand, the sort of atmosphere during the scrap station game is the sort of thing that will grab people's attention. This is pretty much what DJ Wheat (I believe) tried to point out in the last SoTG.

Secondly, if I were sponsoring a player competing in MLG, what I would want is that the player I sponsor gets noticed and draws attention to himself (in a non-negative context, although that line is kind of vague these days as well), thus promoting my company / product. And If I were choosing between sponsoring a player who gets the crowd chanting his name for whatever reason and a player who goes on to win that tournament easily, I know where my money would go. At the very least, a random person at MLG would probably want to know "who this Huk character is" and there would be a ton of discussion about him and a youtube video posted. I thought the same when he showed up in front of cameras in a hoodie holding a pillow in Raleigh.

Finally, about the actual match with SeleCT - after the first game I would've put all my money, house and car on SeleCT winning in any sort of standard game. I don't think SeleCT is a more talented player or even a better player in general, but I was sure he's taking that game that night. If I tried to rationalize that feeling, I'd say HuK was the last in the long line of top Protoss that ended up losing to pretty much the same thing. Things just clicked for SeleCT, he dispatched his opponents routinely one after the other, and I don't think HuK is in a top shape right now.

Maybe that's why I don't feel like HuK really threw away anything - it's more like he got the best out of the time he had left on the tournament. I can only guess what was going through his head at the time, but I find it really hard to believe he went in that game 100%. Obviously it's not something he would ever want to say in public because it would be... not very pleasant, I imagine. Either way, I don't blame him, he's only human. I also don't think it's some horrible, unforgivable attitude and that he doesn't have what it takes to succeed.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
October 18 2010 23:06 GMT
#318
On October 18 2010 16:38 vol wrote:
"Wow, Huk's Mothership was a really dumb idea. He was stupid for doing that."


Your rant was cool and all (even though I find part of it to be terribly wrong) but that part really got me to write back.

I dont mind giving you the fact that a mothership rush wasnt the best idea with winning in mind, if it was dumb or not I guess that is up to discussion.

Saying that ''HE WAS STUPID'' for doing it though it probably the most retarded thing I have read in this entire thread (and trust me, this thread is filled with dumb posts).

You are not a pro-gamer, you are not ''HuK'', and you have never been in the situation that he was in. With that in mind, saying it was stupid (even if we could prove he DID throw the game intentionally to please the fans, which can also be discussed) is totally irrational.

Starcraft 2 is a competitive game, sure, but it still is a GAME, and a game is supposed to have a ''fun part to it''. Sure, some people think that winning is the only thing that could ever make them have fun, but its not the same for everyone.
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velo
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia48 Posts
October 18 2010 23:40 GMT
#319
HuK fighting! Love it!
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
October 19 2010 01:27 GMT
#320
On October 19 2010 07:32 Talin wrote:
Let me say first that I completely understand the people who are like "omg he threw the game, not serious, not professional, etc etc". I see where their arguments are coming from and I'm not going to argue against that (not that it would change anybody's mind anyway).

IMO though, some professions just aren't supposed to be "professional" to that extent - forcing those "values" upon people who do those jobs is often times counterproductive and harmful. When you take away a player's irrational passion for the game, personality, flair, frivolity, and yes even the ability to just say "fuck this, I'm not feeling this game tonight so I'm doing something goofy just for the heck of it" (just a hypothetical example), you're really not left with much. Least of all an interested audience that is large enough to be even rightly called an audience. On the other hand, the sort of atmosphere during the scrap station game is the sort of thing that will grab people's attention. This is pretty much what DJ Wheat (I believe) tried to point out in the last SoTG.

.



Dear Talin,

I'm sure your a nice guy, but with all due respect you're argument here is for sissies, babies, and hairy lesbians.

Are you suggesting that it is somehow unfair of his audience to expect Huk to TRY to WIN in a COMPETITION he ENTERED, and that we are somehow "oppressing" him, and denying him of his freedom to express himself through the sweet sweet language of Starcraft 2?

I thought MLG was a tournament that hosted the best competitors in the world, not a goddamn free-form, open-mike jam session at some filthy-hippie-internet bar where a guy 'expresses himself' with a fucking Mothership.

You sir, are ridiculous.


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