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Huk's mothership rush @ MLG DC Video - Page 15
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-CheekyDuck-
Australia398 Posts
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
Play the GSL. Get to the finals. Show them that yes it is useless. Then show them that your skills make up for it. Then yell I AM HUK. | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
Remember what sport is, sport is a form of entertainment, designed to entertain! That is what Huk did, it is far more important to entertain than win. Something other sports need to remember aswell, i cant emphasies how dull football has become now that everyone plays so cautiosly with no one having the confidence to make an epic run, because if they loose the ball they're in the shit, i for one would rather see them at least tying :| Huk is a boss, and wether he built the mother ship intending to win or knew he was throwing the game, its exactuly the kind of thing e sports needs if its going to attract crowds and surive. | ||
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Haster
Canada11 Posts
He made two mistakes that where unrelated to the mothership, mistakes that would have cost him the game regardless of his strategy. one was not having sight on the rocks in the middle of the map and the other was not having his units in front of his natural, preferably behind that steam. Maybe the fact that he was going mothership indirectly caused him to make these mistakes but he had the units to put pressure on Selects front (which would have revealed Select's strat) and dropping a pylon by those rocks is trivial. The worst part is because he wasn't in front of Select's base or at the watchtower his units really had nowhere else better to be then in front of his natural. His army composition was also very good, he only lost because of those two mistakes. I sincerely hope that Huk wins an important game with this strat some day so people will see that he lost because of real mistakes, not because of a 400 min 400 gas unit. I really think this can eventually be hammered into a real strategy on some maps. | ||
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Orph
Canada26 Posts
yes his mom rush failed but who cares he tried something ... might have worked  im just curious if Huk Had Won this game what all the haters would have said to him ? that he cheeze or that hes a genius or thats he's been lucky? | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 18 2010 06:32 Ezze wrote: It was beyond epic. Noone can deny that. It was not epic. It was a silly stunt that resulted in a very one-sided match. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 18 2010 15:42 Orph wrote: its so crazy to see all the haters bash at HuK... yes his mom rush failed but who cares he tried something ... might have worked im just curious if Huk Had Won this game what all the haters would have said to him ? that he cheeze or that hes a genius or thats he's been lucky? They would have said that he had balls of steel and was lucky that Select was somehow bad enough to lose to a Mothership Rush. | ||
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Patton1942
United States66 Posts
A whole lot of people have a whole lot of opinions, but a whole lot of us didn't compete in the MLG. Its like the office fantasy league or office baseball team telling Doc Halladay how to pitch a game for MLB. I include myself in that category obviously. You do what YOU think is right. We're with you. HuK Fighting! | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 18 2010 15:03 Mogget wrote: Remember what sport is, sport is a form of entertainment, designed to entertain! That is what Huk did, it is far more important to entertain than win. Something other sports need to remember aswell, i cant emphasies how dull football has become now that everyone plays so cautiosly with no one having the confidence to make an epic run, because if they loose the ball they're in the shit, i for one would rather see them at least tying :| You know what would have been entertaining? Huk playing his heart out, taking Select in three games, and taking Idra in a long series. Or Select barely getting by Huk, after eking out all those other wins in the Loser's bracket. Trying to WIN is a form of entertainment. | ||
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Semiotist
United States19 Posts
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
On October 18 2010 16:22 Semiotist wrote: I know Huk gave away that game with the mothership but I have to say that was probably the game I enjoyed the most at mlg (of course game 1 kiwikaki vs White ra was pretty awesome too) Im the opposite i guess. The way I rank the matches I like is normally by 1. win by inventive \ awesome play 2. solid win 3. scrappy win. When it came out i was like "O, wow if this works then great" , then they zoom over on Selects army and you just knew he would get screwed with 1 scan. It was horrible to see him throw the game like that | ||
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vol
United States52 Posts
However, I would like to say that there is a potential upside to this bad decision. The Starcraft community is an amazing, rich, vibrant, superbly entertaining community that once you become a part of, there is no going back. You are hooked by all the amazing things you will encounter and you will begin to grow in the community as you learn more about the depth of the game and the skill of the players, the events that are held online and offline, and the pure love and devotion that people are willing to give back to this game and its community. Now the question is, How do you hook random people who could potentially become HUGE Starcraft fans but know absolutely nothing about it. Well Huk's Mothership is your answer. Now immediately, I know that a lot of people (especially pros) are gonna say that it's a bad move for people to become initially hooked on Starcraft based off of such a terrible game play decision. It's like if someone said "Ya man I just watched this Youtube video of this guy playing this game starcraft and it was so cool, he is so good at it and his mouse was moving so fast. It was crazy! His name was Combat EX!" (Obviously everyone in the scene knows that Combat Ex is not a high level player, and I am not trying to pick on him in any way in this example. He was just the first thing that popped into my head at 3 am as I am writing this and I am trying to think of popular BW Starcraft Youtube channels.) In a perfect world people will automatically understand high level play and seeing Idra beat people with amazing macro, timing and in game decision making would make everyone watch with a huge banana grin as it does me. Alas, people who don't know a single thing about the game will not understand anything about why Idra wins, how he got those units or why the other guy didn't have as many. But that is my point, if Huk's Mothership can serve as that viral video "Hook" that will bring in more random people to the Starcraft community then that is a great thing. If it can spread across Reddit, Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, 4chan, or whatever via a meme, a video, or a random comment. Then it has served a great purpose for the growth of esports and the Starcraft community. And once people are hooked and then have watched vods and replays and followed tournaments and know the game on a higher level from day9's dailies, then they will clearly be able to look back and say "Wow, Huk's Mothership was a really dumb idea. He was stupid for doing that." But at that point, who cares? It was that one thing that introduced you to one of the most amazing games and amazing community of people you have ever encountered. And maybe one day we could get lucky and get that Google CEO that was browsing reddit and decided to click that one link that peaked his interest. Then he read a comment that linked him to a TL thread, then he followed that TL thread to a GSL game then next thing you know hes a hardcore fan and wants to fund the first US Google sponsored Starleague. You never know...  | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Why not playing your best ? When he defeated the first push it was super exciting, like "hoho he could win this with a mom ???" Then he suicide the ms without his army | ||
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Lumin
United States217 Posts
On October 17 2010 17:21 kidd wrote: I honestly disliked Huk as a player before though I never knew anything about his personality so it was all based on his play, but after seeing his kind demeanor throughout the tournament with little things like trying to help select get set up and shaking hands after every game, he won me over. Quickly following those things, he does a mothership rush in the loser's final of one of the biggest US tournaments to please the crowd all the while joking and basically telling select what's going on, shows he loves nothing more than playing the game and having fun with it. Can't help but like the guy after all that. I agree with everything you said up to the point where he won you over. If anything his demeanor makes things worse. Talking like that in-game especially with those kinds of tones just seems so BM. | ||
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laonda
Netherlands44 Posts
Also why is every one blaming huk. Blame the MLG in a professional environment it should never be the case that the crowd could have an impact like this on the decision making of a gamer. If there were soundproof booth (like they should have) this would never happen. | ||
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robertdinh
803 Posts
On October 18 2010 17:00 laonda wrote: The pricepool of this tournament winner takes 2500 dollars -> LOL. Overall Huk wins a lot of additional fans for a loss off maybe 1000 dollars. For sponsorship this was way better, every one is talking about this match and way less about the finals. So overall a good step for e-sports on that level because with a winner that takes home 2500 dollar we can't really say this is big for any professional sport. If this was the GSL than it was a complete different story and he will also never did this. Also why is every one blaming huk. Blame the MLG in a professional environment it should never be the case that the crowd could have an impact like this on the decision making of a gamer. If there were soundproof booth (like they should have) this would never happen. No you shouldn't blame MLG for huk's actions. He is accountable for his own behavior and decisions. And no true competitor gives up when he still has a chance to win through and take home 1st place. No matter how unlikely or challenging it would be. Losers always whine about no sound booths, winners go home and choose to spawn queens? | ||
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 18 2010 16:06 Patton1942 wrote: HuK, if you read this, don't let some internet people get you down. You know what you wanted to do and how you wanted to do it. You made a decision and it didn't work out this time. Don't let that discourage you from trying again. A whole lot of people have a whole lot of opinions, but a whole lot of us didn't compete in the MLG. Its like the office fantasy league or office baseball team telling Doc Halladay how to pitch a game for MLB. I include myself in that category obviously. You do what YOU think is right. We're with you. HuK Fighting! Huk, if you read THIS, just remember that any silver league player can mothership rush. Not every player has the potential to beat Idra, or Select, or qualify for the GSL. You also have a short window of time to carve out a successful career and make some serious money. Kick some ass while you still can, man. | ||
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suejak
Japan545 Posts
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deji
Estonia46 Posts
Yes, he used a cute tactic. In no way was that throwing the game and he managed to have fun doing it. Professional gaming, after all, is not a career choice for more than a handful of Korean BW players, and even then not for longer than some years. So why play a game? To have fun. In a years time, noone will remember if he got second or third place, but people will remember the mothership. An analogy to anyone who knows the Quake scene: I prefer watching av3k to watching rapha, even if the latter has more consistent and better results. I just can't stand watching people grind out the same safe move for the nteenth time. lol @ holier-than-the-pope nerds demanding their precious computer game be more serious than actual professional sports. Do you not see basketball players do flashy dunks? Do you not see soccer players go for solo runs? Jesus. | ||
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