SC Center Daily - Page 13

On August 28 2010 16:48 choboPEon wrote:
SCCenter Episode 19, 8/28/2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7A7f1E-B_Q&fmt=18

Today is a long review of day 1 of mlg, the patch notes and day 1 of gsl. now, i wish i had some video to show you for mlg while i read through some of the results but the non-hd cast was unwatchable in full screen. maybe i'll just make a habit out of getting the hd stream for every major event for the sake of the review shows.

when i'm a billionaire from this stuff, i'm going to look back at my penny pinching and laugh! :p :[

On August 30 2010 08:08 iCCup.Diamond wrote:



I love your show and watch them all the time. Sort of surprised that I got mentioned but I think you misunderstood me.

What I mean is the "casual" fan does not know him. Every hardcore fan does, but to the average fan they don't know about him. This was further reinforced to me when I went to the midnight release of SCII. There was about 40 people there. Roughly 5 had no idea people played SC professionally or anything about shoutcasting. There was no one there that was a true hardcore fan. Only one person knew about TL and the rest had seen some HDH videos or whatever.

When I was asking them about players (naturally I was promoting the shit out of iCCup TV), not one single person there had a clue in hell who Kiwikaki was. They ALL (minus the 5 clueless ones) knew IdrA, Day9, LzGaMeR, or HuK but not one single person had even ever heard of Kiwikaki before.

I am a HUGE MMA fan and this is a age old thing in that sport. To put this in perspective let's use Lyoto Machida as an example. Lyoto Machida was hailed as the future of the sport from the time he fought Rich Franklin back in 2004 by all the hardcore fans. But it was not until he beat Tito Ortiz, Thiago Silva, and Rashad Evans in the UFC that any casual fan knew about him. Unfortunately as is the case in every sport the casual fan outnumbers the hardcore fans. I know it's easy to think TL is something that every fan is into and reads daily, but this is not the case. I know I was a massive BW fan but never found TL until 2008-2009. Before that time I knew of ONE BW player, Boxer. Sure there was the Bisu's and the Flash's but I was a casual fan so I had never heard of/seen them.

Now MLG definitely helped, but from my understanding he did not even want to go to MLG until his teammates pressured the hell out of him.

All the good players and very hardcore fans know Kiwi and know what he is capable of, but he remains (up until MLG) largely unknown to the casual fan. I KNEW Kiwi would do great and I was sure he would make Top 4, but even the MLG polls showed that no one really knew him. On the "who will win, HuK or Kiwi?" vote they had Kiwikaki only had like 14% of the votes where HuK was ahead by a landslide.

I know Kiwi, I know what he's capable of, but it doesn't matter unless the casual fan has been exposed to him. As much as it pains me to say this every time, as far as viewer base goes, casual fans always outnumber the hardcore fans.

I hope this helps clear this up, and I love your daily shows !

On August 30 2010 08:52 choboPEon wrote:
Fair enough!

It's easy to fall into the trap of being in a TL bubble and I guess I did. Thanks for the clarification

On August 30 2010 13:29 iCCup.Diamond wrote:


No problem. I really think Kiwikaki is one of the best players in the world so that's why I'm so harsh on him. I really want people to see him and learn what he's about.