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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 27 2010 18:17 GMT
#241
Hahah, not-yet-processed message. A little early there, bucko.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 27 2010 18:38 GMT
#242
:p
:O
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 28 2010 07:48 GMT
#243
SCCenter Episode 19, 8/28/2010



Today is a long review of day 1 of mlg, the patch notes and day 1 of gsl. now, i wish i had some video to show you for mlg while i read through some of the results but the non-hd cast was unwatchable in full screen. maybe i'll just make a habit out of getting the hd stream for every major event for the sake of the review shows.

when i'm a billionaire from this stuff, i'm going to look back at my penny pinching and laugh! :p :[
:O
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 28 2010 14:07 GMT
#244
starting up again
:O
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
August 28 2010 14:20 GMT
#245
just stumbled across this thread today.

nice stuff man :D
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 21:49:32
August 29 2010 21:49 GMT
#246
SCCenter Episode 20, 8/29/2010



will have gsl talk tomorrow
:O
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 29 2010 23:08 GMT
#247
On August 28 2010 16:48 choboPEon wrote:
SCCenter Episode 19, 8/28/2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7A7f1E-B_Q&fmt=18

Today is a long review of day 1 of mlg, the patch notes and day 1 of gsl. now, i wish i had some video to show you for mlg while i read through some of the results but the non-hd cast was unwatchable in full screen. maybe i'll just make a habit out of getting the hd stream for every major event for the sake of the review shows.

when i'm a billionaire from this stuff, i'm going to look back at my penny pinching and laugh! :p :[



I love your show and watch them all the time. Sort of surprised that I got mentioned but I think you misunderstood me.

What I mean is the "casual" fan does not know him. Every hardcore fan does, but to the average fan they don't know about him. This was further reinforced to me when I went to the midnight release of SCII. There was about 40 people there. Roughly 5 had no idea people played SC professionally or anything about shoutcasting. There was no one there that was a true hardcore fan. Only one person knew about TL and the rest had seen some HDH videos or whatever.

When I was asking them about players (naturally I was promoting the shit out of iCCup TV), not one single person there had a clue in hell who Kiwikaki was. They ALL (minus the 5 clueless ones) knew IdrA, Day9, LzGaMeR, or HuK but not one single person had even ever heard of Kiwikaki before.

I am a HUGE MMA fan and this is a age old thing in that sport. To put this in perspective let's use Lyoto Machida as an example. Lyoto Machida was hailed as the future of the sport from the time he fought Rich Franklin back in 2004 by all the hardcore fans. But it was not until he beat Tito Ortiz, Thiago Silva, and Rashad Evans in the UFC that any casual fan knew about him. Unfortunately as is the case in every sport the casual fan outnumbers the hardcore fans. I know it's easy to think TL is something that every fan is into and reads daily, but this is not the case. I know I was a massive BW fan but never found TL until 2008-2009. Before that time I knew of ONE BW player, Boxer. Sure there was the Bisu's and the Flash's but I was a casual fan so I had never heard of/seen them.

Now MLG definitely helped, but from my understanding he did not even want to go to MLG until his teammates pressured the hell out of him.

All the good players and very hardcore fans know Kiwi and know what he is capable of, but he remains (up until MLG) largely unknown to the casual fan. I KNEW Kiwi would do great and I was sure he would make Top 4, but even the MLG polls showed that no one really knew him. On the "who will win, HuK or Kiwi?" vote they had Kiwikaki only had like 14% of the votes where HuK was ahead by a landslide.

I know Kiwi, I know what he's capable of, but it doesn't matter unless the casual fan has been exposed to him. As much as it pains me to say this every time, as far as viewer base goes, casual fans always outnumber the hardcore fans.

I hope this helps clear this up, and I love your daily shows !
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
August 29 2010 23:26 GMT
#248
wow, I dunno how I missed this but just saw my first ep, #20, and it was really enjoyable. I like that it's short and provides the links etc. Great job!
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 29 2010 23:52 GMT
#249
On August 30 2010 08:08 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 16:48 choboPEon wrote:
SCCenter Episode 19, 8/28/2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7A7f1E-B_Q&fmt=18

Today is a long review of day 1 of mlg, the patch notes and day 1 of gsl. now, i wish i had some video to show you for mlg while i read through some of the results but the non-hd cast was unwatchable in full screen. maybe i'll just make a habit out of getting the hd stream for every major event for the sake of the review shows.

when i'm a billionaire from this stuff, i'm going to look back at my penny pinching and laugh! :p :[



I love your show and watch them all the time. Sort of surprised that I got mentioned but I think you misunderstood me.

What I mean is the "casual" fan does not know him. Every hardcore fan does, but to the average fan they don't know about him. This was further reinforced to me when I went to the midnight release of SCII. There was about 40 people there. Roughly 5 had no idea people played SC professionally or anything about shoutcasting. There was no one there that was a true hardcore fan. Only one person knew about TL and the rest had seen some HDH videos or whatever.

When I was asking them about players (naturally I was promoting the shit out of iCCup TV), not one single person there had a clue in hell who Kiwikaki was. They ALL (minus the 5 clueless ones) knew IdrA, Day9, LzGaMeR, or HuK but not one single person had even ever heard of Kiwikaki before.

I am a HUGE MMA fan and this is a age old thing in that sport. To put this in perspective let's use Lyoto Machida as an example. Lyoto Machida was hailed as the future of the sport from the time he fought Rich Franklin back in 2004 by all the hardcore fans. But it was not until he beat Tito Ortiz, Thiago Silva, and Rashad Evans in the UFC that any casual fan knew about him. Unfortunately as is the case in every sport the casual fan outnumbers the hardcore fans. I know it's easy to think TL is something that every fan is into and reads daily, but this is not the case. I know I was a massive BW fan but never found TL until 2008-2009. Before that time I knew of ONE BW player, Boxer. Sure there was the Bisu's and the Flash's but I was a casual fan so I had never heard of/seen them.

Now MLG definitely helped, but from my understanding he did not even want to go to MLG until his teammates pressured the hell out of him.

All the good players and very hardcore fans know Kiwi and know what he is capable of, but he remains (up until MLG) largely unknown to the casual fan. I KNEW Kiwi would do great and I was sure he would make Top 4, but even the MLG polls showed that no one really knew him. On the "who will win, HuK or Kiwi?" vote they had Kiwikaki only had like 14% of the votes where HuK was ahead by a landslide.

I know Kiwi, I know what he's capable of, but it doesn't matter unless the casual fan has been exposed to him. As much as it pains me to say this every time, as far as viewer base goes, casual fans always outnumber the hardcore fans.

I hope this helps clear this up, and I love your daily shows !


Fair enough!

It's easy to fall into the trap of being in a TL bubble and I guess I did. Thanks for the clarification
:O
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 30 2010 01:04 GMT
#250
i love that you always provide links in your videos :3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Homun
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany21 Posts
August 30 2010 02:30 GMT
#251
Great job on the videos.

I laughed loud, when you mentioned the Artosis vs 3 Terran group in Episode 20.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 30 2010 04:08 GMT
#252
thanks!
:O
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 30 2010 04:29 GMT
#253
On August 30 2010 08:52 choboPEon wrote:
Fair enough!

It's easy to fall into the trap of being in a TL bubble and I guess I did. Thanks for the clarification


No problem. I really think Kiwikaki is one of the best players in the world so that's why I'm so harsh on him. I really want people to see him and learn what he's about.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
August 30 2010 04:33 GMT
#254
On August 30 2010 13:29 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 08:52 choboPEon wrote:
Fair enough!

It's easy to fall into the trap of being in a TL bubble and I guess I did. Thanks for the clarification


No problem. I really think Kiwikaki is one of the best players in the world so that's why I'm so harsh on him. I really want people to see him and learn what he's about.


He really is I still think Kiwi > Huk
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
September 01 2010 02:37 GMT
#255
SCCenter Episode 21, 8/31/2010



:O
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
September 01 2010 02:46 GMT
#256
warning, i sound like charles barkley with a cold in this video. "turrbull" sniffle sniffle "turran" sniffle

oh boy
:O
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 01:21:56
September 02 2010 01:20 GMT
#257
I don't see the point when you analyise upcoming matches. Basically you go through all players and say "I know this one, I don't know that one, this game should be awesome, could go both ways." imo it doesn't fit into a news emission and it's not like you can provide any meaningful analysis - some players will play on some maps in the near future... and that's it. I don't think that it worth doing it mostly because usually there's next to nothing to say. If anything, this time should be spent on games that have already been played.

I wrote this after watching this episode but I've seen it before as well.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
September 02 2010 04:14 GMT
#258
SCCenter Episode 22, 9/1/2010

:O
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
September 02 2010 06:30 GMT
#259
Starting to become a fan of this ChoboPeon. Great job taking something like ESPN Sports Center and applying SC to it.
Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
September 02 2010 06:35 GMT
#260
I enjoyed the latest episode, but I feel it was a bit too opinion-based for a journalistic piece. Understandably, the topics you talked about in this one are pretty controversial.
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