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Milky.underwear
Profile Joined May 2010
United States10 Posts
May 26 2010 14:17 GMT
#381
/signed

I tried to read all the post on this, but at this point there is a lot. So here a couple of ideas.
First, maybe make a global ladder for each league. Having a way to compare yourself to others in your league (like you can be ranked 200th amongst gold players). I think that would please both casual and pro alike.
Second idea, maybe make a global ladder for the top 1,000 players (rough number) so that the top player knows how they stand and us spectators can see how they stand. Not having personalized names makes it tough to stand out and is silly not to have (thats like rule one of games played with large number of players).
Look at me!!!
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
May 26 2010 15:28 GMT
#382
/agreed
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:35:00
May 26 2010 15:34 GMT
#383
On May 26 2010 14:13 Afterhours wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 13:38 Bibdy wrote:
An example of how stupid this system is:

HEY GUYS, IM TIED RANK 1 / 2!! CAN I PLAY IN TOURNAMENTS, YET!?


Pretty sure this has to do with the fact that the #1 place player has played 2 times the games you have. Still, that blows. XD


I wasn't trying to point out the stupidity of the tied state. More that I can run around saying I'm a #1 Diamond player, with a rating of 140 and only 11 games played.
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
May 26 2010 15:39 GMT
#384
On May 22 2010 19:04 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Signed a million times over.


Agreed.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 15:55:17
May 26 2010 15:52 GMT
#385
just make LAN. it will solve all problems. people can play on blizzard battle.net if they want official recognition or they can play on all sorts of custom servers like iccup. let the consumer control his software. there is no excuse. pirates? nigguh pleaz.
Madr0x
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands7 Posts
May 26 2010 20:58 GMT
#386
/signed
ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
May 26 2010 21:30 GMT
#387
On May 26 2010 18:11 ZapRoffo wrote:
An idea I saw on the official forums (yes I saw something intelligent on the official forums o.O) that I really like was:

Increase the pool size for divisions as you go up in leagues, until diamond where there are no divisions and just one pool of players.
Bronze: 100 players per division
Silver: 200 players
Gold: 1000 players
Platinum: I dunno how many players there are in a league overall, but have like 10-20 divisions
Diamond: 1 division.

This lets players lower in the ladder get more of a personal feeling instead of being number #329834 and gives them an indication of how close they are to advancing, and as you move up, you gain more comparison as you become more competitive, while still giving some measure of possible achievement without being overwhelming, and then as you get to the top level, give the information fully competitive players want, their overall place.

Anyone else think this is cool?



I love this idea. No more 100 #1 diamond players.
7 times dowm, 8 times up
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
May 26 2010 21:31 GMT
#388
I kinda just want an update on the status of starcraftrankings post patch 13 =)
I love the site btw
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PaterSin
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany301 Posts
May 26 2010 21:35 GMT
#389
ranking will probably be a after release or we'll have 1/2 million #1 Diamond players :D
En Taro Tassadar
xOchievax
Profile Joined April 2010
United States69 Posts
May 26 2010 21:36 GMT
#390
I completely agree. Now that I think about it all the things they do to make us feel like we are better than we are like making the enemy always favored and hiding are exact ranks is quite condescending, and seems like a cheap way to make gamers think they are better than they are so that they play more.

/signed
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
May 26 2010 21:38 GMT
#391
YOU TELL'EM!
Beyond the Game
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
May 26 2010 21:42 GMT
#392
/signed
Melt
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland281 Posts
May 26 2010 21:45 GMT
#393
I totally agree with you
tenpromicro
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States119 Posts
May 26 2010 22:00 GMT
#394
Thanks for the website. It was great while it lasted. Just a lot of fun comparing how your rating stacked up against other good players, and to see your improvement every week.
radynom
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada8 Posts
May 26 2010 22:57 GMT
#395
I am going to be a devil's advocate here and try to convey what I think is Blizzard's logic.

Everyone should know that they are going to implement the Pro league and it will have congregated ranking. So for the competitive player, there will be a global ranking.

What about those that are unable to make it into Pro league? Don't you want to know where you stand in your own league?

Well...to be blunt, that means you suck! (not to be demeaning, I am going to be one one of those people) To put it in ICCUP terms, you may be ranking C or below (or whatever Blizzard set the cut off point to be). If you think like that, then you know where you stand.

Also, many people may not realize it, but knowing your ranking within your entire league is just as obfuscated as your ranking in your division. Say you are rank #1 in platinum, that really means you are about #14295 overall. You may not think like this now, but when the game comes out, I am sure a lot of you would prefer to say you are a high ranking Diamond than someone who can't get into Pro league and rank #12834.

For those that really want global ranking instead of ranking in their league, then what's the point of having different league? Are you suggesting to remove the league system all together? If you want to have league and know your ranking in that league, what's to say this level of obfuscation is better than what Blizzard is implementing now?

So in summary, if you really are competitive and want to know your global ranking, get better and get into the Pro league!!


EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
May 26 2010 23:23 GMT
#396
I actually wouldn't mind removing divisions.

However, it may be really hard to move up leagues then, so really, I don't know.
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ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
May 26 2010 23:24 GMT
#397
thing is how does one even get into the pro league? isn't it invite only?
7 times dowm, 8 times up
hydroxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
May 26 2010 23:47 GMT
#398
Only thing I really have an issue with is not having unique names, why would they even do that?
you might sleep, but you'll never dream
KeeN
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada82 Posts
May 27 2010 00:39 GMT
#399
dont let this die !!
nope
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
May 27 2010 01:17 GMT
#400

Good post, I went onto the official forums and posted my +1 just to bump the thread. I hope Blizzard listens but at least if they don't we have starcraftrankings.com

Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
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