EPTThe thing with football is that you have the amount of attempts + on targets.
At the moment you commented the latest showed 7 attempts Bayern vs 3 Barca, two on targets for both.
Then Bayern scored 3 goals.
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The thing with football is that you have the amount of attempts + on targets. At the moment you commented the latest showed 7 attempts Bayern vs 3 Barca, two on targets for both. Then Bayern scored 3 goals. | ||
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On August 15 2020 04:35 120720 wrote: The thing with football is that you have the amount of attempts + on targets. At the moment you commented the latest showed 7 attempts Bayern vs 3 Barca, two on targets for both. Then Bayern scored 3 goals. Yeah I mean it's not unusual that the team who are more effective are the ones who squeak out the wins. It's less usual that being effective mean scoring four goals every 30 minutes  | ||
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On August 15 2020 04:37 Pandemona wrote: Yeah this Suarez and Messi front 2 is not what you want vs a team of 11 who press and hound you, quite embarassing really. Back 4 isn't even that much of an issue even though Pique is the only real top defender in it, it still should be fine if they played the right way. I think Suarez leaving this summer is good for them so they only have to "carry" Messi in terms of hounding/pressing as he aint doing that. You're making it sound like it's about Messi being lazy or something. Really it's just the Barcelona way, and they have won plenty of championships doing it like that. All the way back when Cruyff was coaching the dream team he was yelling at Laudrup whenever he ran back to defend, he didn't even like him setting his feet on Barca's half of the pitch. The English way is not the only way | ||
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They are not outballs and they don't have the raw pace to play longballs to, so how do you bypass the press that Bayern are doing when your front 2 are not pressing and are walking around the pitch. | ||
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Also, before they fell so far behind, Barca was creating plenty of chances. They just aren't sharp enough in front of goal, and Roberto's passing has cost them a lot. | ||
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On August 15 2020 04:44 Pandemona wrote: No i get that, but right now they are not contributing to this game at all, the game has changed also that you can barely carry 1 player let alone two. Especially when it becomes a front 2. Messi is not shit, nor is Suarez but in this game right now vs a top team that they don't play against often because of La Liga's levels they are being made to look bang average. They are not outballs and they don't have the raw pace to play longballs to, so how do you bypass the press that Bayern are doing when your front 2 are not pressing and are walking around the pitch. I'm confused, your solution to breaking a press is having your own players press ? Press what? your own player with the ball? And yeah Agree. Puig and Fati need to play. | ||
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On August 15 2020 04:49 sneakyfox wrote: I don't see Messi and Suarez on the same level at all here. Messi has contributed, good passes and runs. It's Suarez they should be subbing now. Also, before they fell so far behind, Barca was creating plenty of chances. They just aren't sharp enough in front of goal, and Roberto's passing has cost them a lot. No question Messi should stay on the pitch and Suarez should be off it, but Messi is also a passenger without the ball, but you can "just" about get away with one guy who does little defensively/pressing when you have 9 others in a tight shape / press. On August 15 2020 04:50 Rebs wrote: I'm confused, your solution to breaking a press is having your own players press ? Press what? your own player with the ball? They press you on the ball.....when they have the ball you press them....Suarez and Messi are not pressing meaning when they lose the ball, Bayern can go through Barca or at least get the space they want. Also on the flip side when they are in possession Suarez and Messi are not making the outball runs you would want as they are just walking around. | ||
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On August 15 2020 04:49 sneakyfox wrote: I don't see Messi and Suarez on the same level at all here. Messi has contributed, good passes and runs. It's Suarez they should be subbing now. Also, before they fell so far behind, Barca was creating plenty of chances. They just aren't sharp enough in front of goal, and Roberto's passing has cost them a lot. Put the clown emote to explain what you mean by "plenty of chances", the production is saying 3... Barca chances are being stopped before they can shoot, and they are getting bullied in their defence and in the middle. I don't even know what Suarez could be doing more, do you want him to go behind his own midfielders? | ||
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On August 15 2020 04:51 120720 wrote: Put the clown emote to explain what you mean by "plenty of chances", the production is saying 3... Barca chances are being stopped before they can shoot, and they are getting bullied in their defence and in the middle. I don't even know what Suarez could be doing more, do you want him to go behind his own midfielders? What I'm saying is that Barca had plenty of dangerous play before Bayern put them so far behind. Some of them weren't shots but crosses that came so close to being 100% scoring chances. But yeah they are definitely playing worse after falling behind. Still, don't see why they shouldn't be able to repeat that start in the second half, especially if they sub Suarez. | ||
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