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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 10 2018 18:34 GMT
#6461
On July 11 2018 02:01 DucK- wrote:
Hope Chelsea doesn't buy higuain. We don't need him.

I am afraid the Ronaldo going to Juve only happens because Chelsea are taking Rugani (confirmed as done today in Italy for €40million) and Higuain to Chelsea because Sarri want them.

Stupid ADL had so much power on what happens in Italy it is crazy, without him freeing up Sarri we wouldn't be buying the two stars of Juve to help fund the Ronaldo transfer.
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-10 20:39:47
July 10 2018 20:23 GMT
#6462
Now Perez/Lopetegui have to replace 50 goals somehow. I'm sure that both Benzema and Bale will perform better and will score more when Ronaldo is gone, but they still have to buy a bunch of goals. Who is the player that can score 35+ goals and is available ?
Madrid will throw huge chunk of cash towards PSG and I hope that it's not for Neymar. That guy became a joke and the meme of the WC. Another option, that I see, is Icardi + other players, but I doubt that he wants to leave Inter.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18565 Posts
July 10 2018 20:28 GMT
#6463
Hazard played a much better WC than de bruyne.

Its a pity only one of them always turns up for a game and the other disappears
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
July 10 2018 23:44 GMT
#6464
Heart: Ronaldo to Juventus, Dybala to Barcelona, Dembele to Arsenal.

Head: Ronaldo to Juventus, Dybala to Barcelona, Dembele to Chelsea, Arsenal getting Victor Moses.
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-11 00:36:02
July 11 2018 00:04 GMT
#6465
Karius howler again!

[Edit]

Mahrez why you join Man City to be a bit part player Doing a ben arfa....

Maybe sterling gets sold though XD
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51518 Posts
July 11 2018 01:30 GMT
#6466
On July 11 2018 05:28 sharkie wrote:
Hazard played a much better WC than de bruyne.

Its a pity only one of them always turns up for a game and the other disappears


maybe its de bruyne playing so much deeper at club level made him completely forget how to play up the pitch for his country
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18565 Posts
July 11 2018 05:16 GMT
#6467
It probably also has to do with mental and physical fitness. City players are more burned out than other club players since they were pushing every league game
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-11 10:40:44
July 11 2018 10:28 GMT
#6468
On July 11 2018 00:57 Dav1oN wrote:
Well that's weird, Serie A is much worse then La Liga/EPL
It does not looks like a big challenge for him but w.e

Good luck and thx for amazing 9 years in RMA!


Honestly that is false. Serie A is way more challenging than Liga in my opinion. In serie A even the shittiest team can win against the top dogs, while in the Liga this basically never happens. The fact that Juventus steamrolls everyone is a bad indicator, as they are way above the other teams. Check out teams like Sassuolo or Atalanta, which have ridicolous small low budgets yet manage to sneak into Europa League and stay afloat by selling some players at the end of the year. Ronaldo's salary is more than all of Sassuolo combined.

There are also many interviews by famous players/trainers who give Serie A the edge. According to Ibrahimovic, serie A is the hardest league for strikers, Tevez said that it is harder than Premier League, Conte too.

But it is also quite a pointless discussion imo. I've always looked at Spain has a duel between barcelona and real madrid. Italy was way more competitive and in fact if you were to remove juve, Serie A could have 7-8 potential winners.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2011 Posts
July 11 2018 10:42 GMT
#6469
On July 11 2018 14:16 sharkie wrote:
It probably also has to do with mental and physical fitness. City players are more burned out than other club players since they were pushing every league game

It's also likely a big transition from a clockwork like Guardiola system to the national team. Someone like Hazard is effective as long as you find him some 1on1s, but De Bruyne needs to sync up with the surrounding teammates much more.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-11 11:13:01
July 11 2018 11:12 GMT
#6470
Offft! Jorginho choosing Chelsea and London of Pep and Manchester! Napoli owner De Laurentiis confirmed this and now all the press junkies are on it. ADL comment was he had agreed a deal 15 days ago with City for Jorginho but the player choose London and Chelsea over Manchester even without Sarri.

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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-11 11:39:28
July 11 2018 11:34 GMT
#6471
On July 11 2018 19:28 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2018 00:57 Dav1oN wrote:
Well that's weird, Serie A is much worse then La Liga/EPL
It does not looks like a big challenge for him but w.e

Good luck and thx for amazing 9 years in RMA!


Honestly that is false. Serie A is way more challenging than Liga in my opinion. In serie A even the shittiest team can win against the top dogs, while in the Liga this basically never happens. The fact that Juventus steamrolls everyone is a bad indicator, as they are way above the other teams. Check out teams like Sassuolo or Atalanta, which have ridicolous small low budgets yet manage to sneak into Europa League and stay afloat by selling some players at the end of the year. Ronaldo's salary is more than all of Sassuolo combined.

There are also many interviews by famous players/trainers who give Serie A the edge. According to Ibrahimovic, serie A is the hardest league for strikers, Tevez said that it is harder than Premier League, Conte too.

But it is also quite a pointless discussion imo. I've always looked at Spain has a duel between barcelona and real madrid. Italy was way more competitive and in fact if you were to remove juve, Serie A could have 7-8 potential winners.


Weird terms of "challenging" you got there. Serie A is mostly defensive football with a single strongest team. There is nothing challenging in it. It used to be much better back in days. Saying lower teams never wins versus beast like RMA/Barca means you are not in focus of LaLiga. Not even mentionaing Atletico Madrid, Vallareal, Valencia and Sevilla. Besides take a look at international winners of the last 5 seasons in UCL/Europa League. You guys could not even make it to World Cup lol, that's a challenging thing for Italy indeed not to get to the finals lol.

Local TV networks are not even providing Serie A to subscribe, because there is no demand, people like to watch EPL/La Liga for a reason.

Meanwhile Yarmolenko from Borussia to West Ham.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8788 Posts
July 11 2018 11:59 GMT
#6472
tbh people watch epl and la liga for reasons compltely unrelated to league quality. epl is a no brainer due to it being an english league. la liga only took over serie a in popularity thanks to cr7/messi.
nowadays you almost never find a young football fan of ac milan/inter that isnt italian. id argue that a long time ago ac milan/inter had as many fans globally as rm did. easily more than barca
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
July 11 2018 12:03 GMT
#6473
On July 11 2018 08:44 brinepumps wrote:
Heart: Ronaldo to Juventus, Dybala to Barcelona, Dembele to Arsenal.

Head: Ronaldo to Juventus, Dybala to Barcelona, Dembele to Chelsea, Arsenal getting Victor Moses.

Which Dembele? The good one (Celtic?) Or the other one?

Or Tottenham Dembele lol?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 11 2018 12:04 GMT
#6474
On July 11 2018 20:12 Pandemona wrote:
Offft! Jorginho choosing Chelsea and London of Pep and Manchester! Napoli owner De Laurentiis confirmed this and now all the press junkies are on it. ADL comment was he had agreed a deal 15 days ago with City for Jorginho but the player choose London and Chelsea over Manchester even without Sarri.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1017001459127332864


Wow sarri would be exciting stuff. Finally a manager that plays aggressive football, instead of being overly defensive/tactical. A manager that coaches an attack rather than rely on individual brilliance.

I read that jorginho is a DM? Wonder how he will work in tandem with kante. Does he play like a deep lying playmaker, or is he a box to box?

Also going with back 4 would leave the problem of where to field Dave. I like him, but he is useless offensively as a full back. I think he will be a suspect if played as a cb pair too. Sadly Conte's back 3 best suits him.

With sarri, I think Morata may flourish. At least he no longer is left isolated and forced to play as a target man.

Oh well. Getting rid of conte is good no matter what though.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18565 Posts
July 11 2018 12:07 GMT
#6475
I predict Chelsea fans want to get rid of Sari in two years at the latest.

Anyone want to take that bet?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 11 2018 12:24 GMT
#6476
On July 11 2018 21:04 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2018 20:12 Pandemona wrote:
Offft! Jorginho choosing Chelsea and London of Pep and Manchester! Napoli owner De Laurentiis confirmed this and now all the press junkies are on it. ADL comment was he had agreed a deal 15 days ago with City for Jorginho but the player choose London and Chelsea over Manchester even without Sarri.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1017001459127332864


Wow sarri would be exciting stuff. Finally a manager that plays aggressive football, instead of being overly defensive/tactical. A manager that coaches an attack rather than rely on individual brilliance.

I read that jorginho is a DM? Wonder how he will work in tandem with kante. Does he play like a deep lying playmaker, or is he a box to box?

Also going with back 4 would leave the problem of where to field Dave. I like him, but he is useless offensively as a full back. I think he will be a suspect if played as a cb pair too. Sadly Conte's back 3 best suits him.

With sarri, I think Morata may flourish. At least he no longer is left isolated and forced to play as a target man.

Oh well. Getting rid of conte is good no matter what though.

Jorginho is the key to Sarri ball a guy who plays one touch and at max two touch football with an eye for a cesc like pass to boot. He is basically a Paul Scholes / Xabi Alonso player, a deep lying playmaker who can move around.

Should be indeed going into a 4-3-3 with Sarri as well. Dave might be "useless" offensively by Hysaj was Napoli right back and he plays exactly same was as Dave does.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51518 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-11 12:54:40
July 11 2018 12:53 GMT
#6477
i think jorginho will fit well with kante; let jorginho just sit ahead of the defense while kante does the hard work
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-11 13:00:20
July 11 2018 12:59 GMT
#6478
On July 11 2018 19:28 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2018 00:57 Dav1oN wrote:
Well that's weird, Serie A is much worse then La Liga/EPL
It does not looks like a big challenge for him but w.e

Good luck and thx for amazing 9 years in RMA!


Honestly that is false. Serie A is way more challenging than Liga in my opinion. In serie A even the shittiest team can win against the top dogs, while in the Liga this basically never happens.


Yes. This season Real Madrid only lost against Barcelona, Betis, Villareal, Espanyol, Girona, Sevilla and it only drew against Athletic Bilbao (x2), Atlético Madrid (x2), Levante (x2), Valencia, Barcelona, Celta and Villareal. It never happens.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 11 2018 13:02 GMT
#6479
On July 11 2018 21:07 sharkie wrote:
I predict Chelsea fans want to get rid of Sari in two years at the latest.

Anyone want to take that bet?


Well it's easy to accept the failure as rebuilding progress if we're seeing high tempo aggressive football. Our previous managers were mainly defensive tacticians. Our entertainment comes from winning and not style, so what good are they if they don't win games? Moreover, there is evident stagnancy or regression in the squad. We don't even have youngsters to cheer for.

I look at liverpool and their failure to win trophies, but I see progress. I see hope and optimism. If sarri requires the same time to rebuild like klopp does, I'm more than happy to support him.

Side note, just wanna mention that my last straw with Conte was him playing super defensive football against Man City when we were so many points behind off the race. Zero ambition.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 11 2018 21:00 GMT
#6480
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