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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18725 Posts
August 15 2016 18:24 GMT
#8621
On August 16 2016 03:23 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 03:21 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:04 Rebs wrote:
Holy shit he literally just used the "girls who get raped shouldnt wear slutty clothes and get trashed" logic.

Im actually quite stunned here.


Rofl? How is this the same kind of logic? So if someone assaults you, you just let them hit you? Haha


Its called victim blaming. There is no argument here.


Nope. It's called alcohol blaming. There is tons of arguments there.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 18:31:50
August 15 2016 18:26 GMT
#8622
On August 16 2016 03:24 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 03:23 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:21 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:04 Rebs wrote:
Holy shit he literally just used the "girls who get raped shouldnt wear slutty clothes and get trashed" logic.

Im actually quite stunned here.


Rofl? How is this the same kind of logic? So if someone assaults you, you just let them hit you? Haha


Its called victim blaming. There is no argument here.


Nope. It's called alcohol blaming. There is tons of arguments there.


haha nice try Jamie Foxx, doesnt work like that. Your arguments are invalid.

Alcohol is bad therefore its not the police's fault they killed a dude. Facepalm.

Read news k thnks.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 15 2016 18:36 GMT
#8623
On August 16 2016 02:58 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 02:00 sneirac wrote:
On August 16 2016 01:57 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 01:29 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 00:12 sharkie wrote:
If he was drunk or on drugs there is nothing to feel sorry about him. I only feel for the poor family. And the poor policeman who prolly feels like shit now..


Ummm what ? let me see if I am interpreting this correctly ?

Person is drunk and on drugs - yes its bad.

Person dies by police mishandling situation with a taser that is meant to subdue and not kill.

Person is at fault and had it coming?

I guess we should just shoot every drug addict on the street then Mao style then.


Don't get drunk and on drugs in the first place yes. What is so bad about this?

You saying that he deserves to die because he took drugs or was drunk?


No, I am saying that stupid things happen. He just had bad luck to die by a tazer. But his death could have easily been avoided by himself.

I have read how many football fans shit on the police now because of this incident. For me, the police is at no fault here.

See with this post I actually agree, if you earlier intended to say that then you just expressed yourself terribly. It sounded an awful lot like saying he deserved to die because he consumed drugs/alcohol.

On August 16 2016 03:26 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 03:24 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:23 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:21 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:04 Rebs wrote:
Holy shit he literally just used the "girls who get raped shouldnt wear slutty clothes and get trashed" logic.

Im actually quite stunned here.


Rofl? How is this the same kind of logic? So if someone assaults you, you just let them hit you? Haha


Its called victim blaming. There is no argument here.


Nope. It's called alcohol blaming. There is tons of arguments there.


haha nice try Jamie Foxx, doesnt work like that. Your arguments are invalid.

Alcohol is bad therefore its not the police's fault they killed a dude. Facepalm.

Read news k thnks.

According to the news I read he was aggressive, the police reasonably used a taser and he died because of a likely preexisting medical condition and the taser caused a heart attack... a tragic accident but not the polices fault. Or is there some additional information I am not aware of?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 18:41:49
August 15 2016 18:40 GMT
#8624
On August 16 2016 03:36 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 02:58 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 02:00 sneirac wrote:
On August 16 2016 01:57 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 01:29 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 00:12 sharkie wrote:
If he was drunk or on drugs there is nothing to feel sorry about him. I only feel for the poor family. And the poor policeman who prolly feels like shit now..


Ummm what ? let me see if I am interpreting this correctly ?

Person is drunk and on drugs - yes its bad.

Person dies by police mishandling situation with a taser that is meant to subdue and not kill.

Person is at fault and had it coming?

I guess we should just shoot every drug addict on the street then Mao style then.


Don't get drunk and on drugs in the first place yes. What is so bad about this?

You saying that he deserves to die because he took drugs or was drunk?


No, I am saying that stupid things happen. He just had bad luck to die by a tazer. But his death could have easily been avoided by himself.

I have read how many football fans shit on the police now because of this incident. For me, the police is at no fault here.

See with this post I actually agree, if you earlier intended to say that then you just expressed yourself terribly. It sounded an awful lot like saying he deserved to die because he consumed drugs/alcohol.

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 03:26 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:24 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:23 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:21 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:04 Rebs wrote:
Holy shit he literally just used the "girls who get raped shouldnt wear slutty clothes and get trashed" logic.

Im actually quite stunned here.


Rofl? How is this the same kind of logic? So if someone assaults you, you just let them hit you? Haha


Its called victim blaming. There is no argument here.


Nope. It's called alcohol blaming. There is tons of arguments there.


haha nice try Jamie Foxx, doesnt work like that. Your arguments are invalid.

Alcohol is bad therefore its not the police's fault they killed a dude. Facepalm.

Read news k thnks.

According to the news I read he was aggressive, the police reasonably used a taser and he died because of a likely preexisting medical condition and the taser caused a heart attack... a tragic accident but not the polices fault. Or is there some additional information I am not aware of?


Well the news I read I linked it earlier, it seems like the police werent exactly being reasonable. I tend to think the BBC is pretty reliablle.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
August 15 2016 18:44 GMT
#8625
No sharkie the thing is that 99.something% of the time, getting drunk (or doing most drugs) is fine and has no real bad consequences. Likewise for girls, 99.something% of the time dressing up in a miniskirt and getting drunk is fine, but occasionally it contributes to them getting raped. If you get drunk and you act like a moron and you end up dead because of it, that is a case of super, super bad luck - it's not normal to think that the person 'kinda deserved it because he got drunk' or whatever you're arguing, just like if you dress sluttily and get drunk and get raped then that was super unfortunate and not something the girl can be blamed for.

Almost everyone gets drunk or uses drugs at some point of their life, almost nobody gets tasered to death because of it. I got super drunk and fell into a river last weekend, if I drowned and people were sad about it and you came and said 'well he got drunk, so I don't feel bad about it' then dead-me would find that super rude and inappropriate. I can agree that someone who gets drunk and attacks someone and gets tasered and dies is more to blame than a girl who gets drunk and gets raped, but when you say that you don't feel bad for him, you just come off as an insensitive asshole. You might have very legitimate reasons for hating alcohol - there's still such a thing as being 'tactful'.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 15 2016 18:44 GMT
#8626
Ok guys most important match of the week coming up. Hype!
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 15 2016 18:46 GMT
#8627
On August 16 2016 03:40 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 03:36 sneirac wrote:
On August 16 2016 02:58 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 02:00 sneirac wrote:
On August 16 2016 01:57 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 01:29 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 00:12 sharkie wrote:
If he was drunk or on drugs there is nothing to feel sorry about him. I only feel for the poor family. And the poor policeman who prolly feels like shit now..


Ummm what ? let me see if I am interpreting this correctly ?

Person is drunk and on drugs - yes its bad.

Person dies by police mishandling situation with a taser that is meant to subdue and not kill.

Person is at fault and had it coming?

I guess we should just shoot every drug addict on the street then Mao style then.


Don't get drunk and on drugs in the first place yes. What is so bad about this?

You saying that he deserves to die because he took drugs or was drunk?


No, I am saying that stupid things happen. He just had bad luck to die by a tazer. But his death could have easily been avoided by himself.

I have read how many football fans shit on the police now because of this incident. For me, the police is at no fault here.

See with this post I actually agree, if you earlier intended to say that then you just expressed yourself terribly. It sounded an awful lot like saying he deserved to die because he consumed drugs/alcohol.

On August 16 2016 03:26 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:24 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:23 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:21 sharkie wrote:
On August 16 2016 03:04 Rebs wrote:
Holy shit he literally just used the "girls who get raped shouldnt wear slutty clothes and get trashed" logic.

Im actually quite stunned here.


Rofl? How is this the same kind of logic? So if someone assaults you, you just let them hit you? Haha


Its called victim blaming. There is no argument here.


Nope. It's called alcohol blaming. There is tons of arguments there.


haha nice try Jamie Foxx, doesnt work like that. Your arguments are invalid.

Alcohol is bad therefore its not the police's fault they killed a dude. Facepalm.

Read news k thnks.

According to the news I read he was aggressive, the police reasonably used a taser and he died because of a likely preexisting medical condition and the taser caused a heart attack... a tragic accident but not the polices fault. Or is there some additional information I am not aware of?


Well the news I read I linked it earlier, it seems like the police werent exactly being reasonable. I tend to think the BBC is pretty reliablle.

Read that now, that does not make the police look good at all. However there was an immediate knee jerk reaction before anyone knew anything.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 15 2016 18:56 GMT
#8628
Feel free to go "us politics" to discuss fuck tha police stuff guys.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 15 2016 19:03 GMT
#8629
FUUUUUU

Ivanovic starts. We lost!
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 15 2016 19:14 GMT
#8630
On August 16 2016 04:03 DucK- wrote:
FUUUUUU

Ivanovic starts. We lost!

Well he almost scored now

Liking how Chelsea is starting this game
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 15 2016 19:16 GMT
#8631
On August 16 2016 04:03 DucK- wrote:
FUUUUUU

Ivanovic starts. We lost!


I have a strong feeling Ivanovic wasnt the problem. Conte will prove this.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 15 2016 19:20 GMT
#8632
On August 16 2016 04:16 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 04:03 DucK- wrote:
FUUUUUU

Ivanovic starts. We lost!


I have a strong feeling Ivanovic wasnt the problem. Conte will prove this.

Yeah my money is on Fabregas
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 15 2016 19:21 GMT
#8633
wow 20 minutes into the new season and already chelsea fans everywhere can bitch about the FA agenda

meanwhile Costa immediately runs into the new dissent rule
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 15 2016 19:44 GMT
#8634
On August 16 2016 04:16 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 04:03 DucK- wrote:
FUUUUUU

Ivanovic starts. We lost!


I have a strong feeling Ivanovic wasnt the problem. Conte will prove this.


Ivanovic played bad on an individual level. Getting skinned by Wingers over and over. Loads of mistakes as well. I don't believe it was the manager.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 19:48:41
August 15 2016 19:48 GMT
#8635
On August 16 2016 04:44 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 04:16 Rebs wrote:
On August 16 2016 04:03 DucK- wrote:
FUUUUUU

Ivanovic starts. We lost!


I have a strong feeling Ivanovic wasnt the problem. Conte will prove this.


Ivanovic played bad on an individual level. Getting skinned by Wingers over and over. Loads of mistakes as well. I don't believe it was the manager.


Well lets see how he does this season then. Ivanovic wasnt the only one playing like ass last year there is only one common denominator there.

Also really enjoying this Chelsea already.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 15 2016 19:48 GMT
#8636
everyone on Chelsea looking good, just no goal.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 15 2016 19:51 GMT
#8637
I don't like the ref performance at the moment, the penalty he could have easily given, but more so how he didn't book Colins for his foul on Costa yet he instantly books Kante for the exact same foul.

Oh well, good game, West Ham put us under pressure first 10 minutes in which we stood our ground but then we grew into the game are looking very good. Carroll playing left wing back is kinda summing West Ham up at the moment. However no goals from us yet, just a good performance!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 15 2016 19:56 GMT
#8638
On August 16 2016 04:51 Pandemona wrote:
I don't like the ref performance at the moment, the penalty he could have easily given, but more so how he didn't book Colins for his foul on Costa yet he instantly books Kante for the exact same foul.

Oh well, good game, West Ham put us under pressure first 10 minutes in which we stood our ground but then we grew into the game are looking very good. Carroll playing left wing back is kinda summing West Ham up at the moment. However no goals from us yet, just a good performance!


Pen was 50/50. Could see it being given but people wouldve complained it was soft. In fairness he wasnt really going anywhere.

They look good for a goal. I wouldnt be nervous yet.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 15 2016 19:58 GMT
#8639
He went down very softly but it still a penalty, pushed him off the ball but Oscar goes down like he been shot. Still rules rule!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 15 2016 20:04 GMT
#8640
There we go. Legit pen
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