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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 04 2016 14:32 GMT
#8301
Yeah swap Pepe for Varane and then it would make sense!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
August 04 2016 14:43 GMT
#8302
I also read that Bayern first said 65m + Varane and Real didn't want it so they went down to 65 + Pepe

They'll still not sell Alaba, it would be really stupid
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 04 2016 14:45 GMT
#8303
Isn't Alaba (going back to Euro thread discussion) wanting to not play in left back position anymore? Thus where does he fit into the Bayern system then? He isn't the best DM in the world by any stretch of the imagination, he could potentially imo play LW but you have alot of better people ahead of him in those positions in both Real and Bayern so i don't get the transfer either. As Marcelo is absolutely amazing in pre season so far, just watch him rekt Chelsea like he is Bale/Ronaldo merged
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 15:47:50
August 04 2016 15:46 GMT
#8304
Alaba played CM/OM from start until summer 2009 because Van Gaal joined Bayern at that summer. He still likes CM/OM more than LW.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
August 04 2016 18:26 GMT
#8305
On August 04 2016 23:45 Pandemona wrote:
Isn't Alaba (going back to Euro thread discussion) wanting to not play in left back position anymore? Thus where does he fit into the Bayern system then? He isn't the best DM in the world by any stretch of the imagination, he could potentially imo play LW but you have alot of better people ahead of him in those positions in both Real and Bayern so i don't get the transfer either. As Marcelo is absolutely amazing in pre season so far, just watch him rekt Chelsea like he is Bale/Ronaldo merged

He's been saying for years he doesn't actually want to be left back, this was one of the main points Bayern fans were worried about before he finally decided to extend his contract to 2021. But let's be honest that's the main position the world's elite teams would use him for. So it doesn't make much sense for him to switch teams. And Bayern has no incentive to sell core players.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18678 Posts
August 04 2016 18:35 GMT
#8306
On August 05 2016 03:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2016 23:45 Pandemona wrote:
Isn't Alaba (going back to Euro thread discussion) wanting to not play in left back position anymore? Thus where does he fit into the Bayern system then? He isn't the best DM in the world by any stretch of the imagination, he could potentially imo play LW but you have alot of better people ahead of him in those positions in both Real and Bayern so i don't get the transfer either. As Marcelo is absolutely amazing in pre season so far, just watch him rekt Chelsea like he is Bale/Ronaldo merged

He's been saying for years he doesn't actually want to be left back, this was one of the main points Bayern fans were worried about before he finally decided to extend his contract to 2021. But let's be honest that's the main position the world's elite teams would use him for. So it doesn't make much sense for him to switch teams. And Bayern has no incentive to sell core players.


You keep saying that they dont sell core players. While I agree with you, in Alaba's case they gave a counter offer though. If Bayern are not interested in selling then they just stay silent, they dont do counteroffers. So imo Alaba has switched from "not going to sell" to "sell only if the price is good enough".
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 04 2016 20:36 GMT
#8307
Yeah thats why im confused, someone really needs have talk with Alaba, he can go play DM if he wants but he will be playing for a Tottenham or Milan team at best in those positions. Where as a left back he is arguably top 3 in the world.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 04 2016 21:48 GMT
#8308
93rd minute goal that eliminated Aberdeen from the EL

https://streamable.com/7ryt
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
August 04 2016 21:57 GMT
#8309
On August 05 2016 03:35 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 03:26 Elentos wrote:
On August 04 2016 23:45 Pandemona wrote:
Isn't Alaba (going back to Euro thread discussion) wanting to not play in left back position anymore? Thus where does he fit into the Bayern system then? He isn't the best DM in the world by any stretch of the imagination, he could potentially imo play LW but you have alot of better people ahead of him in those positions in both Real and Bayern so i don't get the transfer either. As Marcelo is absolutely amazing in pre season so far, just watch him rekt Chelsea like he is Bale/Ronaldo merged

He's been saying for years he doesn't actually want to be left back, this was one of the main points Bayern fans were worried about before he finally decided to extend his contract to 2021. But let's be honest that's the main position the world's elite teams would use him for. So it doesn't make much sense for him to switch teams. And Bayern has no incentive to sell core players.


You keep saying that they dont sell core players. While I agree with you, in Alaba's case they gave a counter offer though. If Bayern are not interested in selling then they just stay silent, they dont do counteroffers. So imo Alaba has switched from "not going to sell" to "sell only if the price is good enough".

I think they purposely gave a counter offer Real wouldn't take. I'm sure Ancelotti really wants to keep Alaba, left back is a position that's hard as hell to replace.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
August 04 2016 22:39 GMT
#8310
On August 05 2016 06:48 sneirac wrote:
93rd minute goal that eliminated Aberdeen from the EL

https://streamable.com/7ryt

haha what a stupid way to go out of the EL
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 03:10:54
August 05 2016 03:08 GMT
#8311
I've been fighting the erge too get excited too early about the new football season. But it's actually here now.

Exeter get the season started away to Blackpool tomorrow. Which is worth mentioning not just be I like to give you guys unnecessary information about Exeter. But also worth noting that Blackpool where a Premier League team 5 years ago.

I haven't followed the K-League so much since I moved to China but it's been hit by match fixing scandals and financial crisis at some of the major clubs (basically anyone to do with the oil industry is in a dire trouble). Jeonbuk have been dominating the top League but are one of the clubs most heavily conected with the match fixing so who knows what will happen there. Suwon FC (The only club not owned by big buisness in the Korea top league) look depressingly condemned back to the second league. But they are at least showing fincially well run clubs can compete in Korea football and the sport doesn't have to rely on huge companies pumping money into the clubs. I hope more community based clubs start to emerge.

Ansan have dominatted the 2nd tier but are moving their home base (since they are the police team that's not as bad as it sounds) next year and won't be eligible for promotion to the top tier. So that leaves a close race between Gangwon, Daegu (both fallen clubs from the top league) and Bucheon (who are a community based club formed when SK Telecom decided to forsake Bucheon and move thier team to the far side of Jeju. Obviouslly I want Bucheon to win promotion. Thier fans deserve it so much.) Busan haven't even got close to promotion after they where relegated last year

I haven't really got into Chinese football yet. But I will go and watch the Beijing teams at some point.

So England... I can't even begin to call what will happen this season but I'm excited for the action to start. The Manchester sides have all the money but huge manager changes might take a while for them to settle. Aresnal will be Aresnal. Hopefully Chelsea can be competitive again and I would love it if Leicester could at least be competitive again. Liverpool are probably a bit of step behind the big clubs but with klopp and their new stands exciting things are happening there too. What about Spurs? And West Ham are busy trying to make themselves a big team too.

edit:That Aberdeen goal.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 05 2016 03:21 GMT
#8312
On August 05 2016 03:35 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 03:26 Elentos wrote:
On August 04 2016 23:45 Pandemona wrote:
Isn't Alaba (going back to Euro thread discussion) wanting to not play in left back position anymore? Thus where does he fit into the Bayern system then? He isn't the best DM in the world by any stretch of the imagination, he could potentially imo play LW but you have alot of better people ahead of him in those positions in both Real and Bayern so i don't get the transfer either. As Marcelo is absolutely amazing in pre season so far, just watch him rekt Chelsea like he is Bale/Ronaldo merged

He's been saying for years he doesn't actually want to be left back, this was one of the main points Bayern fans were worried about before he finally decided to extend his contract to 2021. But let's be honest that's the main position the world's elite teams would use him for. So it doesn't make much sense for him to switch teams. And Bayern has no incentive to sell core players.


You keep saying that they dont sell core players. While I agree with you, in Alaba's case they gave a counter offer though. If Bayern are not interested in selling then they just stay silent, they dont do counteroffers. So imo Alaba has switched from "not going to sell" to "sell only if the price is good enough".

A counter offer? The fuck are you talking about?

It's just some made up bullshit from AS.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 07:09:57
August 05 2016 06:46 GMT
#8313
I highly doubt Bayern would want Pepe in exchange for Alaba. That sounds like it's made up. Someone probably looked at the Kroos transfer, when Bayern got Alonso in return, and thought this is similar, but the situation is totally different this time. Kroos wanted to leave and had only 1 year left on his contract, Alonso was a decent last minute addition for Guardiola's system.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
August 05 2016 09:38 GMT
#8314
Catalan newspaper Sport made two different 11 player teams with the ManCity squad and they both looked rock solid. Is that team deep stacked or what. Pep should enjoy PL.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 05 2016 09:44 GMT
#8315
He needs that amount of players too due to how his style will be critical for the premier league. There is a way of doing things in England and he will find out first hand that his style u need alot of players. High intensity is great when you have 2 weeks off in the winter, but when you're playing through all season long, injuries stack up fast. Kloppers is learning this with his Scouse team and they don't have the budget to have 2x 11 players like City. Im intrigued to see what happens game 1 with Man City let alone around December/January time when the games are coming so fast!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 05 2016 09:57 GMT
#8316
Thats a good point, Peps style really put the players health to the test in the Bundesliga and in England they do have quite some games more I think (and also no break in the winter).
How many total games per season does an english team have vs a german one? anyone know?
This is our town, scrub
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 10:07:23
August 05 2016 10:06 GMT
#8317
Well just a quick glance;
Neuer played 51 games for Bayern last season
Hart played 47 but he was injured and didn't play a single domestic cup fixture

So adding the domestic cup and missing games, Harts total would take Man City games up to 58. So not much difference actually. Minus fact that Bayern had 2 weeks off and Man City did not!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 05 2016 10:38 GMT
#8318
We will see then, but this roster from mancity is pretty insane indeed
This is our town, scrub
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
August 05 2016 10:40 GMT
#8319
Champion's League qualifier play-off matches:

Ludogorets (BUL) vs Plzeň (CZE)
Celtic (SCO) vs H. Beer-Sheva (ISR)
København (DEN) vs APOEL (CYP)
Dundalk (IRL) vs Legia (POL)
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) vs Salzburg (AUT)

Steaua (ROU) vs Man. City (ENG)
Porto (POR) vs Roma (ITA)
Ajax (NED) vs Rostov (RUS)
Young Boys (SUI) vs Mönchengladbach (GER)
Villarreal (ESP) vs Monaco (FRA)
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 10:41:14
August 05 2016 10:41 GMT
#8320
Oh my Porto vs Roma damn! Monaco vs Villarreal could be fun too.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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