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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 28 2015 13:14 GMT
#13581
On April 28 2015 21:51 zeo wrote:

People buy way too much into media bias. Football isn't played only for 13 year old boys jerking off to what senile has-been pundits think football should be played like. Chelsea went from a so-so team fighting for 3rd place to winners overnight all because Mourinho knows how to build actual teams that play the football that should be played.


or chelsea got a free win because city have declined terribly (kompany regressing hugely and every centre back is worse, yaya dropping off a cliff, aguero missing time due to injury and being well below par after being rushed back, and terrible terrible transfers), united couldn't rebuild fast enough, arsenal been ravaged by injuries and lolpool lost their only good player
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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
April 28 2015 13:19 GMT
#13582
got it, Chelsea got lucky. People will always find something to hate about the champions elect, why bother arguing with them.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 28 2015 13:52 GMT
#13583
That data sheet needs more about Messi and his goals/trophies and less of everything else tho.
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 28 2015 14:44 GMT
#13584
On April 28 2015 21:51 zeo wrote:
At the end of this season Chelsea will become the most dominant team in the history of domestic leagues in England. Top of the table since day one, being so dominant is boring.

Surely, you must mean something like "Chelsea will have had the most dominant season in Premier League history." If you seriously think Chelsea are the most dominant side ever in England you are helplessly ignorant.


On April 28 2015 22:14 sixfour wrote:
or chelsea got a free win because city have declined terribly (kompany regressing hugely and every centre back is worse, yaya dropping off a cliff, aguero missing time due to injury and being well below par after being rushed back, and terrible terrible transfers), united couldn't rebuild fast enough, arsenal been ravaged by injuries and lolpool lost their only good player

Disregarding Chelsea's win is as stupid as disregarding the 12-13 season when Man United did their thing and walked home one of the worst seasons of the Prem we've ever seen. Staying solid over an entire season is an accomplishment and you earn title wins. Had Chelsea lost some matches during their slump, it'd be a very close title race right now, but they've only lost 2 matches. That few losses (if they don't lose from here to the end) is the least since 2004-05 when + Show Spoiler [Guess who] +
Mourinho
was in charge and only lost once. Being defensively stable and grinding out results led to the most significant achievment in English fooball.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 14:54:43
April 28 2015 14:49 GMT
#13585
On April 28 2015 21:51 zeo wrote:
I'll just leave this here:

[image loading]

btw. 15 games undefeated against top 5 sides since Jose came back. Chelsea have had the most shots on goal this season on avarage, in both games against Chelsea this season Arsenal had one shot on goal. The goal difference since Mou came back is 8-0 against Arsenal.

People buy way too much into media bias. Football isn't played only for 13 year old boys jerking off to what senile has-been pundits think football should be played like. Chelsea went from a so-so team fighting for 3rd place to winners overnight all because Mourinho knows how to build actual teams that play the football that should be played. We were drowning in beauty at the start of the season because our whole team was fit and we could play what we wanted.

Unlike Two-horse-liga or Buyern-wins-lol where Real can field a squad of under-14s and win 4-0 against 60% of the league, teams like ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea have to field full strength squads and play Champions League level matches 2 times a week. And it shows. Its impossible to play at that level throughout the season and we saw just how sharply the top clubs in England declined, except for Arsenal who were dicking around in the first half and ManU not playing CL.

edit: At the end of this season Chelsea will become the most dominant team in the history of domestic leagues in England. Top of the table since day one, being so dominant is boring.


Eh... Arsenal went unbeatable on 2003-2004
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 28 2015 15:01 GMT
#13586
On April 28 2015 23:44 NuclearJudas wrote:
Surely, you must mean something like "Chelsea will have had the most dominant season in Premier League history." If you seriously think Chelsea are the most dominant side ever in England you are helplessly ignorant.


Chelsea are on course to become the most dominant team in Premier League history by clinching this season’s title.
Jose Mourinho’s side have spent the entire season either top or joint top of the table and can set a new record for the number of days spent at the summit.
Chelsea have officially been in first place since Aug 30, meaning they can set a new record of going 274 days at the top of the table if they stay there until the end of the season.



Arsenal’s team that went an entire season unbeaten were top of the table for 216 days, while this season’s Chelsea side, who have lost twice in the Premier League, have led the way for 230 days.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11525568/Chelsea-eye-record-number-of-days-at-Premier-League-summit-and-knock-Manchester-United-off-top-spot.html
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 28 2015 15:14 GMT
#13587
You arent dominant enough if you lose a match

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 28 2015 15:32 GMT
#13588
The problem is that most neutrals don't watch Chelsea - Leicester, they tune in to watch Chelsea - Arsenal, Chelsea - Manchester United or Chelsea - PSG.

Nobody cares that you can win 6-0 against Burnley or whatever (and show good football). Those statistics you post are inflated by good results against small teams. Fact is that every time Chelsea plays a match against a quality side, they make the game extremely boring for neutral watchers, and those are the games that the neutral gets to see.

Matches against quality sides matter, those against your Leicesters or Burnley's don't when it comes to image.
To be honest, and I'm no fan of either club, but the 2-2 of PSG's 10 men for an hour against Chelsea parking the bus against said 10 men was the most satisfying result of the season for me.

Mourinho absolutely destroyed/killed El Clasiço for 2 years straight. I don't think anyone can argue with that. Mourinho left Madrid and Pepe hardly ever gets a yellow card anymore and no-one is talking about him being a dirty player anymore.
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 15:44:23
April 28 2015 15:35 GMT
#13589
Edit: Fuck it, I don't want to have an extended series argument about this.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 28 2015 16:19 GMT
#13590
Mou is a good manager but he plays disgusting football.
How some people can twist their football goggles so much to say that he's not boring or that they are proud that their team plays the way they do, just baffles me.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 28 2015 16:42 GMT
#13591
On April 28 2015 23:44 NuclearJudas wrote:

Disregarding Chelsea's win is as stupid as disregarding the 12-13 season when Man United did their thing and walked home one of the worst seasons of the Prem we've ever seen. Staying solid over an entire season is an accomplishment and you earn title wins.


not disputing that chelsea have been incredibly dominant and are clearly the best team in the league, just pointing out that their competition has been a joke
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 17:45:36
April 28 2015 17:44 GMT
#13592
On April 29 2015 00:32 Twisted wrote:
The problem is that most neutrals don't watch Chelsea - Leicester, they tune in to watch Chelsea - Arsenal, Chelsea - Manchester United or Chelsea - PSG.

Nobody cares that you can win 6-0 against Burnley or whatever (and show good football). Those statistics you post are inflated by good results against small teams. Fact is that every time Chelsea plays a match against a quality side, they make the game extremely boring for neutral watchers, and those are the games that the neutral gets to see.

Matches against quality sides matter, those against your Leicesters or Burnley's don't when it comes to image.
To be honest, and I'm no fan of either club, but the 2-2 of PSG's 10 men for an hour against Chelsea parking the bus against said 10 men was the most satisfying result of the season for me.

Mourinho absolutely destroyed/killed El Clasiço for 2 years straight. I don't think anyone can argue with that. Mourinho left Madrid and Pepe hardly ever gets a yellow card anymore and no-one is talking about him being a dirty player anymore.


This is the only argument i can agree with, i get it if people only watch Chelsea in big games which makes sense then they will see the play 2 win football and not the free flowing stuff we are capable of and i get that. But when people then start basing claims off of it, it hurts
Mourinho absolutely destroyed/killed El Clasiço for 2 years straight. I don't think anyone can argue with that. Mourinho left Madrid and Pepe hardly ever gets a yellow card anymore and no-one is talking about him being a dirty player anymore.

Not many people boast his record of losing just ONE competitve match vs a top 4 side in England/Spain/Portugal/Italy though. Mourinho does, that is impressive. That one game was to Barcelona when they were the best in the world by a long way xD

But of course, i stand by what you said at the start.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 18:04:56
April 28 2015 17:56 GMT
#13593
On April 29 2015 01:19 Steveling wrote:
Mou is a good manager but he plays disgusting football.
How some people can twist their football goggles so much to say that he's not boring or that they are proud that their team plays the way they do, just baffles me.


Because for fans the 24~30 fun matches outweigh the 4~5 boring matches. I've followed Chelsea all season and they played excellent football, I just don't watch the top matches because I know what they bring.

Personally I feel entertaining football is great but without wins it just gives you nothing as a fan. Doing both is remarkably difficult and I feel it is often easy for fans of teams capable of doing both to criticize those below them in their views. Not everyone has Messi in their team or a bench capable winning the league. I'm a feyenoord fan myself so I can appreciate Chelsea this year, because winning isnt easy. People overestimate Chelsea, the quality of the squad has decreased dramatically from the first mou era and playing full blown attacking football is going to expose a side with very little squad rotation.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
April 28 2015 18:01 GMT
#13594
Pepe is surprisingly a very clean player now. He is still a awesome defender and he doesn't begin fights or loose his head anymore. It is a different Pepe since Mourinho left.

Mourinho was able to turn Xabi Alonso in one of the dirtiest players I have seen.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 28 2015 18:12 GMT
#13595
Haha, this is why I love leo so much, he has balls of steel.
He already missed some penaltos this season but he does a panenka now.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 28 2015 18:14 GMT
#13596
On April 29 2015 02:56 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 01:19 Steveling wrote:
Mou is a good manager but he plays disgusting football.
How some people can twist their football goggles so much to say that he's not boring or that they are proud that their team plays the way they do, just baffles me.


Because for fans the 24~30 fun matches outweigh the 4~5 boring matches. I've followed Chelsea all season and they played excellent football, I just don't watch the top matches because I know what they bring.

Personally I feel entertaining football is great but without wins it just gives you nothing as a fan. Doing both is remarkably difficult and I feel it is often easy for fans of teams capable of doing both to criticize those below them in their views. Not everyone has Messi in their team or a bench capable winning the league. I'm a feyenoord fan myself so I can appreciate Chelsea this year, because winning isnt easy. People overestimate Chelsea, the quality of the squad has decreased dramatically from the first mou era and playing full blown attacking football is going to expose a side with very little squad rotation.


Don't know mate but I liked very much and enjoyed watching chelsea in champions league against big teams a decade ago.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#13597
On April 29 2015 03:14 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 02:56 Ysellian wrote:
On April 29 2015 01:19 Steveling wrote:
Mou is a good manager but he plays disgusting football.
How some people can twist their football goggles so much to say that he's not boring or that they are proud that their team plays the way they do, just baffles me.


Because for fans the 24~30 fun matches outweigh the 4~5 boring matches. I've followed Chelsea all season and they played excellent football, I just don't watch the top matches because I know what they bring.

Personally I feel entertaining football is great but without wins it just gives you nothing as a fan. Doing both is remarkably difficult and I feel it is often easy for fans of teams capable of doing both to criticize those below them in their views. Not everyone has Messi in their team or a bench capable winning the league. I'm a feyenoord fan myself so I can appreciate Chelsea this year, because winning isnt easy. People overestimate Chelsea, the quality of the squad has decreased dramatically from the first mou era and playing full blown attacking football is going to expose a side with very little squad rotation.


Don't know mate but I liked very much and enjoyed watching chelsea in champions league against big teams a decade ago.

And you love watching Greece now with the same manager in charge? TT
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#13598
Markarian?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 28 2015 18:24 GMT
#13599
Oh you sacked Ranieri
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 28 2015 18:25 GMT
#13600
Haha.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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