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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 06 2014 05:19 GMT
#101
Some more swing work videos, starting to see the progress with the club getting into some better positions. Definitely don't own it yet, but the good shots especially right now are noticeably better than a month ago.


Face on


Down The Line
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 11:08:14
May 07 2014 00:48 GMT
#102
#Jealous of you hitting the ball well.

I played 9 holes after work again today (really getting my money's worth out of this club membership). It was still bad, but once again a bit better than yesterday. I had two good holes. On both of the par 3s, I put the ball ~10-12 feet from the hole and 2 putted for par. One is ~120 yd and the other is ~170 yd. I only hit equitable stroke control one time. I now have 50% of the needed holes to establish a handicap!
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 07 2014 04:41 GMT
#103
Sounds like you are hitting some pretty good shots. Getting 1 or 2 shots per nine inside 10-15 is good stuff for a relatively new golfer. By the way, what club did you use from 170?
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
May 07 2014 06:50 GMT
#104
hmm, your plane is looking a lot better. Less steep. Also I love your alignment at the top, the club head is perfect. Not even a hair closed or open

My club head is usually a bit open at top but that's because of a weak positioned grip.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
May 07 2014 10:55 GMT
#105
L_Master: 6 iron. Also, I'm not really a relatively new golfer, in my opinion. I've been playing on and off for... almost 20 years. I just never stick with it consistently and am always relearning how to swing lol
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
May 07 2014 23:58 GMT
#106
I played another 9 today. No holes went to equitable stroke control, but didn't really have good holes either. Another bleh round.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
May 08 2014 00:00 GMT
#107
Some of the courses in saskatoon are finally opening for summer. No more snow, time to golf ladies and gentleman. I've been practicing at the golf dome all winter so I shouldn't be too rusty
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 22:05:21
May 08 2014 19:43 GMT
#108
So I'm now a week into learning golf. My swing is pretty decent all things considered. Body alignment is generally very good, but I still need to iron out the kinks in my backswing. I'm pulling back with my hands instead of my torso, which causes me to over-rotate a bit and bend my left arm more than I should. Still, I'm able to put the ball into play most of the time. I've also managed to get rid of the slice in my swing. Of course, it helps that I'm using newbie clubs that will send the ball high and far even if I heel or toe the ball. The pro put an impact sticker on the face of my club, and the whole thing turned black EXCEPT for the fucking sweet spot until he took a shot.

Anyway, so far, so good. I should be decent enough to get on the course by the end of the month.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
May 08 2014 22:03 GMT
#109
xDaunt sounds good. I just worked on my backswing recently as well... was having the same problem where I was pulling back my hands and not rotating my upper body. First I focused on bringing my hands back more 'inside,' then I focused on adding a chest rotation to the backswing, and suddenly I was on plane (instead of bringing the club almost straight up like a vertical circle). The only mistake I ever notice myself making now on the backswing (other than possible tempo issues) is I sometimes 'chicken-wing' my right elbow out and obviously you aren't supposed to do that!

I used to slice a lot (years back). Now, I'm not able to even if I want to. I'm much more likely to hook!
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
May 09 2014 00:17 GMT
#110
On May 06 2014 14:19 L_Master wrote:
Some more swing work videos, starting to see the progress with the club getting into some better positions. Definitely don't own it yet, but the good shots especially right now are noticeably better than a month ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=454ur9h8Bxo
Face on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-nBsKBTuN0
Down The Line


Make sure you keep a flex in your back knee during the takeaway, that right leg should be your anchor.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
May 09 2014 00:21 GMT
#111
I remember the first time I used impact tape. A whole new understanding of how bad I was at that time opened up
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 09 2014 06:01 GMT
#112
Rest of you guys gotta get some swing vids up if you have a cell phone camera. I wanna see these moves!

Micronesia - pretty good distance actually, 170 for a 6 is significantly longer than the typical amateur so I suspect you are doing some things reasonably well in your swing...unless you are just a 6'5" monster that makes some aggressive swipe at it

Emulator - I don't know how anybody plays with a weak grip. Always for me seems way timing oriented, everyone is way different but for me the idea of square-square or slightly strong and just fire the right side and hold on are much easier to conceptualize and hit good shots with. Weak grip though does allow for some really nice, soft wedge shots.

As far as impact tape goes, it wouldn't look so pretty with a driver; but I wore out a perfect ball sized spot on my 54 wedge to the point there were NO grooves on that part of the wedge at all.

Zorkmid - That's actually something I'm working on right now, combined with getting into my right side a little more. You can see it face-on but I'm not quite turning around my spine, it gets a little more vertical and over the ball as I go back and right as I transition. I don't hit the ball quite as well this way, and definitely not quite as far.

xDaunt - If you are having bent left arm issues I've always liked the swing thought of trying to reach back with the left arm, keeping as much distance between it and your chest as possible. Can't collapse it if you try and do that! Usually when you start with your arms though I'd expect the club to get inside a little too fast, as well as under-rotate; as that doesn't usually lead to a good turn. Interesting that your over-rotating. Post a video some time if you can!

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 09 2014 06:19 GMT
#113
It's always a bit of a laundry list, but what I'm working on in my swing right now (or rather, the things I want to work on, as it's hard to practice effectively worrying about much more than one thing at a time)

  • Maintain spine tilt/get turned into right side
  • "Owning" my backswing - I've never felt consistently comfortable coming of the ball but it's been really helping thinking of my swing from a face-on perspective rather than down the line.
  • Passive with arms and shoulders starting down - keeps the club well lagged and also keeps from getting steep on the downswing. I also think I might pick up a good 3+ mph of clubhead speed here, as if you look at my swing right now, I still fie the shoulders pretty aggressively at the start, when this is passive the hips lead and snap everything else through faster
  • Follow through needs more rotation, right now the backswing and follow-through plane do not mix, as the club just drifts up on the follow through. Makes the swing a but in to out, and too easy to get a modest to big draw going. For someone that likes a baby cut, and taking the left side out of play...this isn't ideal.


Chipping Stuff:
- Pretty good overall, working on more 7/9/PW running chips for shots that don't need loft. Wayyy easier to put those guys inside 3 feet
- Some contact work, sometimes get a little steep and/or quick with the right hand, just reinforcing that pinch feeling slipping the right hand under for the high ones with more zip.
- Matching practice execution to real execution - basically making sure I commit to the practice swing feel and confidently execute what I visualized without second guessing

Putting:
- Green reading needs some work
- straight putt between tees drill; gets path 100% grooved and right hand releasing perfectly as needed; all about making sure those short-mid length putts are starting perfectly on line
- Gotta tweak alignment, over the short ones tend to have the putter just left of where I think I actually am
- Like with chipping just making sure the practice stroke and the real stroke are EXACTLY identical, both in length and tempo. Usually the result is nearly the same, but sometimes the manner of getting there is different
- Preshot routine, don't have a consistent one for putting that I like and obviously this is a problem. Playing around to find something I like


That's pretty much everything for the time being. Sounds like a lot, but much of it is just tweaking type stuff. Honestly I feel very bullish about 2014 season right now...assuming I do get the chance to commit to practicing a significant amount. There have been some real glimpses of stellar stuff in the short game. When the chipping/pitching is on, I'm putting almost everything inside 3-6' even on pretty tricky shots, and I've had a couple sessions putting where I was making at least 1 in 3 from 10-20 foot range.

Just gotta make that consistent, and most importantly learn to consistently take that short game from the practice green to the course...something I definitely struggled with when I last played consistently 6 years ago in HS.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 23:30:10
May 09 2014 11:30 GMT
#114
On May 09 2014 15:01 L_Master wrote:
Rest of you guys gotta get some swing vids up if you have a cell phone camera. I wanna see these moves!
How do you do this? At my range there is nowhere to rest a cell phone for capturing video... I guess you could get someone else to record it if you had someone...

Micronesia - pretty good distance actually, 170 for a 6 is significantly longer than the typical amateur so I suspect you are doing some things reasonably well in your swing...unless you are just a 6'5" monster that makes some aggressive swipe at it
Haha no I'm not a monster as you guessed. 170 has been my approximate 6 iron distance for about 10 years (during the years when I was playing). In fact, here are my distances:

SW 90; AW ~105; PW 120; 9: 130; 8:150; 7:160; 6:170; 5 and 5 iron longer: inconsistent; woods: inconsistent, but for reference 5w can go 220-230 on a good shot off the tee

Since I started playing again recently, I'm not bringing the club back quite as far... my plan is to make up for this with improved swing quality in order to make up the lost distance.

edit: see red above
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 09 2014 15:16 GMT
#115
On May 09 2014 15:01 L_Master wrote:
xDaunt - If you are having bent left arm issues I've always liked the swing thought of trying to reach back with the left arm, keeping as much distance between it and your chest as possible. Can't collapse it if you try and do that! Usually when you start with your arms though I'd expect the club to get inside a little too fast, as well as under-rotate; as that doesn't usually lead to a good turn. Interesting that your over-rotating. Post a video some time if you can!

I'm doing the Golftec program, so I actually have a bunch of videos complete with commentary from the pro on what I'm doing right and doing wrong. I'll see if I can figure out how to rip them. With regards to the over-rotation, I was pulling my hands a little too far behind my head as opposed to keeping them out a bit. To help correct that, the pro had me do an exercise where I flip my wrists 90 degees backwards at the resting position (or whatever the position is when you're lining up with the ball before the backswing) so that the club was pointing straight back and parallel to the ground before I took my back swing. Then I would do my back swing from that position. Flipping my wrist at the start basically forced me into a better position at the top of my backswing.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 10 2014 06:16 GMT
#116
On May 09 2014 20:30 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 15:01 L_Master wrote:
Rest of you guys gotta get some swing vids up if you have a cell phone camera. I wanna see these moves!
How do you do this? At my range there is nowhere to rest a cell phone for capturing video... I guess you could get someone else to record it if you had someone...


I just rest the phone on the bag, and use some irons to prop it up on if the angle is too vertical. No idea if that makes sense without seeing it visually though haha
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
May 11 2014 13:00 GMT
#117
L_Master your description makes sense, although I'm not sure if I'll be pulling that one off or not.

In the meantime... the driving range and practice facility near my will finally be opening on Tuesday! This should be a big help for improving... since I can't drive all the way out to the other campus during the week. After today, I should be 1 round away from establishing a (terrible) handicap!
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 00:02:35
May 12 2014 00:00 GMT
#118
Check out this front 9:

[image loading]

You can tell where the heat plus fatigue from carrying my bag set in lol. On those first 6 holes I had one 3 putt and missed all of the remaining greens for one reason or another. I went on to the back but things were going downhill to I stopped after 14.

Hitting the range before my round when I'm able to does seem rather helpful.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 12 2014 01:15 GMT
#119
Haha damn you were cruisin those first 6 holes.

Agree about the hitting the range, warming up is always good; you get you range of motion going and can just get a little feel before you go out.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 12 2014 22:09 GMT
#120
One thing that I did not anticipate getting into golf was how therapeutic it would be. It's been really nice to get away from the desk for 30 mins or so at a time and just hit some balls.

Anyway, I feel like my swing is getting to the point where I'm about ready to hit a course. I rarely miss-hit the ball so badly that it's a completely wasted stroke anymore. I fixed my backswing problems that I described above by better stabilizing my left arm. Keeping it straight prevents me from over-rotating like I was, which gives me better control. I still need to work on muscle memory to continue improving my consistency, but the backswing is in a good place.

My next project is to work on the downswing. My issue there is that my body isn't rotating purely around my torso during the downswing. Instead, my torso is dropping a few inches during the downswing as I throw my weight into the swing. This causes my downswing to go off-plane -- usually coming in under the plane. I still hit the ball solidly most of the time, but there's an element of wildness in the swing that causes some bad miss-hits from time to time and other variances that I don't want.
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