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DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
August 23 2013 09:18 GMT
#3141
But will Tottenham let Bale go, if they don't get Willian?
But does it djent?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 23 2013 09:19 GMT
#3142
Don't think they have choice now Think deal was done yesterday, will be announced today without a doubt for me. Might even see Bale on the Bernebau pitch doing kick ups during Siesta
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 23 2013 09:31 GMT
#3143
Mata going to Man U is TERRIBLE, I really hope that doesn't happen. He is one of the bright stars of the league and is very young. Has so much going for him, and has a GREAT attitude.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 23 2013 09:45 GMT
#3144
Indeed would we miss him? A little bit of course, would be worst off without him and with a striker in Rooney? I think not no. Willian Hazard Schurrle Moses DeBruyne Oscar would sure make up for it ^_^
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 23 2013 09:56 GMT
#3145
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 23 2013 10:11 GMT
#3146
Yes true but Mourinho hasn't played him in CAM position yet his only position he can play. Mourinho wants 2 wide players who hug the touchline Hazard pretty much nailed on for LW and RW is up for debate soon, and seems he likes Oscar and DeBruyne for CAM. Willian im guessing would be played RW if he came in. Along with Moses fighting for that position. I know Mata is world class, but if you said to me, to get Rooney you would have to lose Mata and still have the rest + Willian i wouldn't be too pissed xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
August 23 2013 10:14 GMT
#3147
Have indeed football transfer fees gone up as a % of average top-tier clubs' overall expenditure or revenue? Has anyone seen analysis on this? Because I think that should be the metric to use when trying to understand if transfer fees are indeed inflated. It would be interesting to try to understand the actual impact of newcomers (Monaco's and Zenits) on inflating transfer fees for everyone else.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
August 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#3148
On August 23 2013 18:56 sc4k wrote:
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.


Because you can get Rooney in return. Mata is your best midfielder, but I do think you guys have enough talent in midfield to compensate for his loss. That said, if (big if) Torres becomes the old Torres again than I don't think you need Rooney.

sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 10:25:03
August 23 2013 10:22 GMT
#3149
On August 23 2013 19:11 Pandemona wrote:
Yes true but Mourinho hasn't played him in CAM position yet his only position he can play. Mourinho wants 2 wide players who hug the touchline Hazard pretty much nailed on for LW and RW is up for debate soon, and seems he likes Oscar and DeBruyne for CAM. Willian im guessing would be played RW if he came in. Along with Moses fighting for that position. I know Mata is world class, but if you said to me, to get Rooney you would have to lose Mata and still have the rest + Willian i wouldn't be too pissed xD


Meh...I totally would!!! Rooney for Mata is NOT a fair swap. Mata is younger and has more years to give. They are equal class but the simple fact of age means that it should be at least 20million + Rooney.

And Mou hasn't played Mata because he hasn't been fit. No doubt Oscar and KDB are going to fit under Mata in the depth chart. We don't really have a player who can hug the RW other than Ramires and Moses, so I think Mou will likely play it more loose on the right hand side...Shurrle is an option but I can't see beyond something like Mata/Oscar/Hazard or Mata/Willian/Hazard for the starting 3.

On August 23 2013 19:20 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 18:56 sc4k wrote:
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.


Because you can get Rooney in return. Mata is your best midfielder, but I do think you guys have enough talent in midfield to compensate for his loss. That said, if (big if) Torres becomes the old Torres again than I don't think you need Rooney.



Top clubs don't sell off their best players. It's just not sensible!!!


Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
August 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#3150
Well as much as Mata is a beast, i wouldn't like to see him in mu. It's personal preference, but i prefer kagawa in cam role.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
August 23 2013 10:41 GMT
#3151
If Mata or Özil go to Manchester United then Kagawa will be Sahin all over again for Dortmund I guess.
But does it djent?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8928 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 10:43:01
August 23 2013 10:41 GMT
#3152
On August 23 2013 19:22 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:11 Pandemona wrote:
Yes true but Mourinho hasn't played him in CAM position yet his only position he can play. Mourinho wants 2 wide players who hug the touchline Hazard pretty much nailed on for LW and RW is up for debate soon, and seems he likes Oscar and DeBruyne for CAM. Willian im guessing would be played RW if he came in. Along with Moses fighting for that position. I know Mata is world class, but if you said to me, to get Rooney you would have to lose Mata and still have the rest + Willian i wouldn't be too pissed xD


Meh...I totally would!!! Rooney for Mata is NOT a fair swap. Mata is younger and has more years to give. They are equal class but the simple fact of age means that it should be at least 20million + Rooney.

And Mou hasn't played Mata because he hasn't been fit. No doubt Oscar and KDB are going to fit under Mata in the depth chart. We don't really have a player who can hug the RW other than Ramires and Moses, so I think Mou will likely play it more loose on the right hand side...Shurrle is an option but I can't see beyond something like Mata/Oscar/Hazard or Mata/Willian/Hazard for the starting 3.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:20 Ysellian wrote:
On August 23 2013 18:56 sc4k wrote:
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.


Because you can get Rooney in return. Mata is your best midfielder, but I do think you guys have enough talent in midfield to compensate for his loss. That said, if (big if) Torres becomes the old Torres again than I don't think you need Rooney.



Top clubs don't sell off their best players. It's just not sensible!!!



and yet you expect man utd to sell rooney. lol
you guys should just pray that torres becomes liverpool torres once again. been too long already but one can dream...if only he could go back to liverpool.

and yeah ozil and mata are good players but not the players man utd needs. why dont the papers say anything about a player which can play in the cm role. why is it always a goddamn AM
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
August 23 2013 10:43 GMT
#3153
On August 23 2013 19:22 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:20 Ysellian wrote:
On August 23 2013 18:56 sc4k wrote:
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.


Because you can get Rooney in return. Mata is your best midfielder, but I do think you guys have enough talent in midfield to compensate for his loss. That said, if (big if) Torres becomes the old Torres again than I don't think you need Rooney.



Top clubs don't sell off their best players. It's just not sensible!!!




Well you are trading your best player for United's best player haha.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 10:45:30
August 23 2013 10:44 GMT
#3154
On August 23 2013 19:41 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:22 sc4k wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:11 Pandemona wrote:
Yes true but Mourinho hasn't played him in CAM position yet his only position he can play. Mourinho wants 2 wide players who hug the touchline Hazard pretty much nailed on for LW and RW is up for debate soon, and seems he likes Oscar and DeBruyne for CAM. Willian im guessing would be played RW if he came in. Along with Moses fighting for that position. I know Mata is world class, but if you said to me, to get Rooney you would have to lose Mata and still have the rest + Willian i wouldn't be too pissed xD


Meh...I totally would!!! Rooney for Mata is NOT a fair swap. Mata is younger and has more years to give. They are equal class but the simple fact of age means that it should be at least 20million + Rooney.

And Mou hasn't played Mata because he hasn't been fit. No doubt Oscar and KDB are going to fit under Mata in the depth chart. We don't really have a player who can hug the RW other than Ramires and Moses, so I think Mou will likely play it more loose on the right hand side...Shurrle is an option but I can't see beyond something like Mata/Oscar/Hazard or Mata/Willian/Hazard for the starting 3.

On August 23 2013 19:20 Ysellian wrote:
On August 23 2013 18:56 sc4k wrote:
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.


Because you can get Rooney in return. Mata is your best midfielder, but I do think you guys have enough talent in midfield to compensate for his loss. That said, if (big if) Torres becomes the old Torres again than I don't think you need Rooney.



Top clubs don't sell off their best players. It's just not sensible!!!



and yet you expect man utd to sell rooney. lol
you guys should just pray that torres becomes liverpool torres once again. been too long already but one can dream...if only he could go back to liverpool.

and yeah ozil and mata are good players but not the players man utd needs. why dont the papers say anything about a player which can play in the cm role. why is it always a goddamn AM


When the hell did you see me say that I expected them to sell Rooney? I have been sceptical of that from the start. For the exact reason I said. The only player Man U needs is Fellaini and I fully expect them to get him. In fact I even laid down 7 pound on that eventuality!

On August 23 2013 19:43 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:22 sc4k wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:20 Ysellian wrote:
On August 23 2013 18:56 sc4k wrote:
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.


Because you can get Rooney in return. Mata is your best midfielder, but I do think you guys have enough talent in midfield to compensate for his loss. That said, if (big if) Torres becomes the old Torres again than I don't think you need Rooney.



Top clubs don't sell off their best players. It's just not sensible!!!




Well you are trading your best player for United's best player haha.


As much as I admire and respect Rooney's incredible talent, he is older than Mata and that simple fact means Mata is more valuable.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 10:49:25
August 23 2013 10:49 GMT
#3155
I feel bad for Mata. He didn't even do anything wrong/bad, yet all summer he has been linked with moves away from Chelsea. Granted, it's all been media bullshit, and there has been nothing official from the club, but he deserves more respect than this.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 23 2013 10:52 GMT
#3156
Yeah I agree, it really sucks. He has such great teamspirit. He makes masses of effort to learn English, plays his heart out, takes on the pressure of big matches, does loads more interviews than everyone else, even does a blog for chelsea fans. We should have come out and categorically stated that Mata is our most prized asset and no one can take him away.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 10:57:27
August 23 2013 10:55 GMT
#3157
On August 23 2013 19:44 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:43 Ysellian wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:22 sc4k wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:20 Ysellian wrote:
On August 23 2013 18:56 sc4k wrote:
Mata is better than all of them, I am certain of it. Why would we sell off the best player?? He's also the furthest in his development and can put the team on his back.


Because you can get Rooney in return. Mata is your best midfielder, but I do think you guys have enough talent in midfield to compensate for his loss. That said, if (big if) Torres becomes the old Torres again than I don't think you need Rooney.



Top clubs don't sell off their best players. It's just not sensible!!!




Well you are trading your best player for United's best player haha.


As much as I admire and respect Rooney's incredible talent, he is older than Mata and that simple fact means Mata is more valuable.


I really like Rooney as well and yet I do have to concede that a straigth swap (or the swap + cash as suggested in the media) would favour United in terms of value.

@Ferrose, it's probably becacuse the media concluded that Mourinho hates Spanish players (and Alonso doesn't count because he is Basque).
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 23 2013 11:04 GMT
#3158
Lol
All hearsay anyway xD
Onwards to waiting for some big news to come out today
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
August 23 2013 12:26 GMT
#3159
Mourinho expresses the view that Willian will choose to join Chelsea, and that the transfer is a possibility

Chelsea cockblocked Spurs hard on this one :D
Dust14
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium490 Posts
August 23 2013 12:27 GMT
#3160
So, did you Chelsea fans actually watch De Bruyne's games last year?
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