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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 16 2016 13:05 GMT
#28021
On August 16 2016 21:43 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:41 Requizen wrote:
On August 16 2016 12:14 zer0das wrote:
Do you like iZombie at all Req? Just curious...

Haven't watched it. Otter won't watch anything with zombies even if it's not scary, I'm still trying to get her to watch Zombieland.


Oh. Well I've scheduled a photo op with Rose McIver and another friend is dragging their heels and really doesn't want to be in it. I guess I'll just do it alone, what a hard life I live.

Huh. Apparently she was a power ranger at one point.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2016 13:24 GMT
#28022
On August 16 2016 21:43 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:41 Requizen wrote:
On August 16 2016 12:14 zer0das wrote:
Do you like iZombie at all Req? Just curious...

Haven't watched it. Otter won't watch anything with zombies even if it's not scary, I'm still trying to get her to watch Zombieland.


Oh. Well I've scheduled a photo op with Rose McIver and another friend is dragging their heels and really doesn't want to be in it. I guess I'll just do it alone, what a hard life I live.

Well how much is it? I'll be in a picture if it's free.
It's your boy Guzma!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 16 2016 13:47 GMT
#28023
On August 16 2016 22:24 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 21:43 zer0das wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:41 Requizen wrote:
On August 16 2016 12:14 zer0das wrote:
Do you like iZombie at all Req? Just curious...

Haven't watched it. Otter won't watch anything with zombies even if it's not scary, I'm still trying to get her to watch Zombieland.


Oh. Well I've scheduled a photo op with Rose McIver and another friend is dragging their heels and really doesn't want to be in it. I guess I'll just do it alone, what a hard life I live.

Well how much is it? I'll be in a picture if it's free.


I've already paid for it in full. But if you have no idea who she is, don't feel obligated or compelled to be in it. I'd rather have a photo of myself with her alone than that.

+ Show Spoiler +
But if you secretly are a huge fan of her because of Masters of Sex, I'll allow it.
*coughs*
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2016 15:03 GMT
#28024
Hearthstone people: Haven't played in a while, but people have been saying that Priest is at the bottom of the pile right now. It was like 2, maybe 3 months ago where N'zoth Priest was one of the top decks in the game? What was the meta killer deck that made that untrue?
It's your boy Guzma!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 16 2016 15:08 GMT
#28025
On August 17 2016 00:03 Requizen wrote:
Hearthstone people: Haven't played in a while, but people have been saying that Priest is at the bottom of the pile right now. It was like 2, maybe 3 months ago where N'zoth Priest was one of the top decks in the game? What was the meta killer deck that made that untrue?

I haven't been following that closely but I think N'zoth Priest was good when you faced predominantly control decks on ladder. Now that's not the case. I've played it recently, it does fine in the 15 range if that's all you care about.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 16 2016 15:11 GMT
#28026
N'Zoth Priest was never at the top, actually. N'Zoth was used with Rogue but it wasn't a top deck (I'm not even sure it was played competitively? Still decent on ladder obv.), N'Zoth Paladin on the other hand was a real thing, since Paladin's already good at control, and it has some very good cards like Tirion to bring back.

Also Priest's usually meh against Warrior (armour > heal for fatigue, weapons to clear the board, better draw and aoe, etc.), pretty reliant on Entombing stuff, and Warrior is the top class now, with several decks even, so...

Basically Priest has no relevant early plays, and opponents don't necessarily play actively early on either to let you still use your mana for SD: Pain and stuff like that. Priest also lacks AoE with the loss of Lightbomb, and the decks are more and more about playing on curve and efficiency, basically everything is either face or tempo midrange (even Miracle isn't combo anymore but tempo + mass draw and your solid creatures like Azure Drake).
So you can't compete with the other classes' early turns, you rely on multi-cards combos (like Auchenai Circle) for your value while others beat you on a 1-by-1 basis, and the classes you struggle against (either naturally or for lack of AoE now) are popular/strong.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 16 2016 15:12 GMT
#28027
Priest is pretty slow and reactive so it does a lot better when decks are slower. The current meta is very midrangey to fast which priest just can't deal with. Also the old gods themselves kind of changed the way control operated as now you have "combo" win cons instead of merely value/fatigue kind of control wincons.

Dragon priest is still alright but it's largely out tempoed by Shaman and dragon warrior. I don't have much experience with Nzoth priest. Nzoth Pally is still pretty decent for climbing I think but it is kind of inconsistent against nut draws from opponents. I can't recall Nzoth priest ever being a top deck in the game. Believe you thinking of Nzoth pally which is still fine but is a better tournament deck than ladder.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2016 15:55 GMT
#28028
I dunno, I saw N'zoth Priest a lot when I was playing, but yeah I guess the meta was a lot slower at that point.
It's your boy Guzma!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 16:00:41
August 16 2016 16:00 GMT
#28029
Once upon a time, Control Priest was a Warrior's bane. RIP those days. : ((
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
August 16 2016 16:13 GMT
#28030
Fatigue isn't a acceptable win con in this meta.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 16:16:39
August 16 2016 16:15 GMT
#28031
Priest couldn't even fatigue warrior before this meta. TGT destroyed them lol. Loved warrior side of that matchup post TGT. Just play zero threats so he can't entomb shit then win the game in fatigue. So easy.

I remember how scary it used to be facing down a priest as control warrior.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 16:22:19
August 16 2016 16:20 GMT
#28032
Eh?

I think you mean LoE, because TGT gave nothing for Warrior besides Justicar and the Control Priest MU vs Warrior didn't change (burn Warrior removals with smaller-midrange bodies and neutral/low value usage and keep up pressure: e.g. Warrior has/had no good answer to coin-Dark Cultist besides like Fiery Axe->Execute or Shield Slam, which is a great trade for Priest).

Entomb is LoE.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 16:24:58
August 16 2016 16:23 GMT
#28033
Justicar alone changed the whole dynamic because the huge armour gain could win the fatigue race alone. Control priest had to now become the proactive deck when it's really not suited for that outside of nut draws while warrior draws terribly.

Like so what if they get the tempo? As long as the warrior stabilized with justicar they could just sit back and do nothing then win. It placed a timer on priests ability to win where as prior it was up to the warrior to get that win.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 16:46:07
August 16 2016 16:36 GMT
#28034
On August 17 2016 01:23 Numy wrote:
Justicar alone changed the whole dynamic because the huge armour gain could win the fatigue race alone. Control priest had to now become the proactive deck when it's really not suited for that outside of nut draws while warrior draws terribly.

Like so what if they get the tempo? As long as the warrior stabilized with justicar they could just sit back and do nothing then win. It placed a timer on priests ability to win where as prior it was up to the warrior to get that win.

But priest was ALWAYS the proactive player in the matchup: the MU goal has always been to pressure Warrior's armor gain with midrange minions and board pressure, wearing down his hand with value trades (because thoughtsteal meant more value), and exhausting his 4 hard removals. You always wanted to keep some decent bodies on the board to keep the warrior from just building up armor for fatigue war later and putting him on a (slow) clock (while keeping out of combo range), and Justicar didn't change that dynamic at all (and indeed made it easier, since you needed to remove a legendary to make room for it, which meant 1 less necessary target for SW:D/MC/Slyvanas/Shrink+cabal/Lightbomb), and Priest often ran it's own Trueheart anyways, so fatigue race wasn't adversely changed to that great a degree (though in reality, the Control Priest vs Warrior matchup shouldn't come down to that, but to the Priest exhausting all Warrior threats/removals while keeping stuff on the board).

The bigger issue for priest was that TGT meant "STOP ASKING QUESTIONS" was meta and christmas hats are difficult for Priest to deal with, without having a major combo available (SW:D+board clear) with unreliable card draw.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23470 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 17:11:45
August 16 2016 17:11 GMT
#28035
On August 16 2016 08:44 Eppa! wrote:
Anyone have a woman in their mid 40s tell you: I like you, you know I have an open relationship with [boyfriend]? Because I now have.


only from your mother
aka Teutonica
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2016 17:22 GMT
#28036


I have a case of the HYPEs.
It's your boy Guzma!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 16 2016 17:30 GMT
#28037
On August 17 2016 00:03 Requizen wrote:
Hearthstone people: Haven't played in a while, but people have been saying that Priest is at the bottom of the pile right now. It was like 2, maybe 3 months ago where N'zoth Priest was one of the top decks in the game? What was the meta killer deck that made that untrue?

I think when the old gods came out for a little bit people believed that control non-warrior could be a thing and priest is decent against that
but then people realized that control non-warrior is actually not a thing and now priest is trash
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 16 2016 17:47 GMT
#28038
People always try experiment with sub-optimal builds and classes just after a big expansion. That's why you always see posts about "the meta is finally slowing down!" the first few weeks
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 16 2016 17:58 GMT
#28039
If you want the easiest legend of your life just play zoo right after an expansion comes out and laugh all the way to the bank
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 16 2016 18:04 GMT
#28040
Yay 10k posts. Again. (is post count even still a thing?)
I have 4 interviews in the next 2 days and I am so frigging stressed. So many incoming massive life changes and decisions need to made, so many pros and cons to be weighed.

I guess though tonight I prepare by RPing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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