On July 28 2016 23:25 Requizen wrote: I think my panic from yesterday has calmed down a bit but it's still extremely worrying to me. I guess all one can do is the best they can. I was already thinking of getting an electric car and we have been cutting back on beef in favor of white meats and produce. I know it's all just small stuff and I just wish there was more I could do as a person, but that's kind of all there is to it. Just gonna do my best and distract myself with models and gamez.
Where does the electricity for your electric car come from Requizen
I imagine the most effective way of helping the planet for one person is probably trying to get governments to do shit, or get into high-end research and make some beakers.
From a power grid that will be in place whether or not I have an electric car. While it's true that it's not entirely clean (especially once you add in the cost of production), the increase on the grid is probably overall less of a dent than filling up the car every week or more. Both are miniscule in the long run, but the electric car is also more forward thinking since, hopefully, that grid that charges it will eventually switch to more sustainable sources.
On July 28 2016 23:25 Requizen wrote: I think my panic from yesterday has calmed down a bit but it's still extremely worrying to me. I guess all one can do is the best they can. I was already thinking of getting an electric car and we have been cutting back on beef in favor of white meats and produce. I know it's all just small stuff and I just wish there was more I could do as a person, but that's kind of all there is to it. Just gonna do my best and distract myself with models and gamez.
Where does the electricity for your electric car come from Requizen
I imagine the most effective way of helping the planet for one person is probably trying to get governments to do shit, or get into high-end research and make some beakers.
From a power grid that will be in place whether or not I have an electric car. While it's true that it's not entirely clean (especially once you add in the cost of production), the increase on the grid is probably overall less of a dent than filling up the car every week or more. Both are miniscule in the long run, but the electric car is also more forward thinking since, hopefully, that grid that charges it will eventually switch to more sustainable sources.
He is saying that your electric car is using electricity generated likely 40% by burning coal and 40% by burning fossil fuels...
Buying an electric car you lower your personal expenditure at the gas station but it gets burned by someone else for you instead.
On July 28 2016 23:25 Requizen wrote: I think my panic from yesterday has calmed down a bit but it's still extremely worrying to me. I guess all one can do is the best they can. I was already thinking of getting an electric car and we have been cutting back on beef in favor of white meats and produce. I know it's all just small stuff and I just wish there was more I could do as a person, but that's kind of all there is to it. Just gonna do my best and distract myself with models and gamez.
Where does the electricity for your electric car come from Requizen
I imagine the most effective way of helping the planet for one person is probably trying to get governments to do shit, or get into high-end research and make some beakers.
From a power grid that will be in place whether or not I have an electric car. While it's true that it's not entirely clean (especially once you add in the cost of production), the increase on the grid is probably overall less of a dent than filling up the car every week or more. Both are miniscule in the long run, but the electric car is also more forward thinking since, hopefully, that grid that charges it will eventually switch to more sustainable sources.
He is saying that your electric car is using electricity generated likely 40% by burning coal and 40% by burning fossil fuels...
Buying an electric car you lower your personal expenditure at the gas station but it gets burned by someone else for you instead.
Yeah, and what I'm saying is that whether or not I plug in a car, the power grid it pulls from is going to be running pretty much the same amount, if one charge of the battery affects the input/output at all. So either the grid is online and I use more gas in the car, or the grid is online with slight (if any) increase from the car. It's not like driving a gas vehicle turns off the power grid.
On July 28 2016 23:25 Requizen wrote: I think my panic from yesterday has calmed down a bit but it's still extremely worrying to me. I guess all one can do is the best they can. I was already thinking of getting an electric car and we have been cutting back on beef in favor of white meats and produce. I know it's all just small stuff and I just wish there was more I could do as a person, but that's kind of all there is to it. Just gonna do my best and distract myself with models and gamez.
Where does the electricity for your electric car come from Requizen
I imagine the most effective way of helping the planet for one person is probably trying to get governments to do shit, or get into high-end research and make some beakers.
From a power grid that will be in place whether or not I have an electric car. While it's true that it's not entirely clean (especially once you add in the cost of production), the increase on the grid is probably overall less of a dent than filling up the car every week or more. Both are miniscule in the long run, but the electric car is also more forward thinking since, hopefully, that grid that charges it will eventually switch to more sustainable sources.
He is saying that your electric car is using electricity generated likely 40% by burning coal and 40% by burning fossil fuels...
Buying an electric car you lower your personal expenditure at the gas station but it gets burned by someone else for you instead.
Yeah, and what I'm saying is that whether or not I plug in a car, the power grid it pulls from is going to be running pretty much the same amount, if one charge of the battery affects the input/output at all. So either the grid is online and I use more gas in the car, or the grid is online with slight (if any) increase from the car. It's not like driving a gas vehicle turns off the power grid.
The grid produces a variable amount of power based on demand, by drawing more from it you're (technically, along with another million car owners,) making making them produce more power by burning more coal than they otherwise would.
On the other hand, the more people switch to electric the more impactful the shifting of our electricity generation over to cleaner methods is. While a million electric cars alone doesn't change much, eventually enough should switch that it makes a difference. The more people support the technology now, the faster it catches on overall, so it's definitely serving a purpose.
Also more directly, sure the same fossil fuels are being burned, but they're being burned far away from whatever city you live it. Sure that doesn't help global warming short term, but it definitely helps reduce local pollution which is always a good thing.
It's a bit of a moot point at the moment, my current place doesn't have a garage and there are few charging places near me so I can't get one until I move.
On July 28 2016 23:25 Requizen wrote: I think my panic from yesterday has calmed down a bit but it's still extremely worrying to me. I guess all one can do is the best they can. I was already thinking of getting an electric car and we have been cutting back on beef in favor of white meats and produce. I know it's all just small stuff and I just wish there was more I could do as a person, but that's kind of all there is to it. Just gonna do my best and distract myself with models and gamez.
Where does the electricity for your electric car come from Requizen
I imagine the most effective way of helping the planet for one person is probably trying to get governments to do shit, or get into high-end research and make some beakers.
From a power grid that will be in place whether or not I have an electric car. While it's true that it's not entirely clean (especially once you add in the cost of production), the increase on the grid is probably overall less of a dent than filling up the car every week or more. Both are miniscule in the long run, but the electric car is also more forward thinking since, hopefully, that grid that charges it will eventually switch to more sustainable sources.
He is saying that your electric car is using electricity generated likely 40% by burning coal and 40% by burning fossil fuels...
Buying an electric car you lower your personal expenditure at the gas station but it gets burned by someone else for you instead.
Yeah, and what I'm saying is that whether or not I plug in a car, the power grid it pulls from is going to be running pretty much the same amount, if one charge of the battery affects the input/output at all. So either the grid is online and I use more gas in the car, or the grid is online with slight (if any) increase from the car. It's not like driving a gas vehicle turns off the power grid.
The grid produces a variable amount of power based on demand, by drawing more from it you're (technically, along with another million car owners,) making making them produce more power by burning more coal than they otherwise would.
This is a bit too simplistic a view on power generation for the point being discussed. You can look at it from another perspective to come to a different conclusion if you really want to. For instance say your country produces most of it's petrol for cars locally, by switching to another source of fuel the quantity needed to be produced decreases and thus the power consumption of those refinery in turn decreases. General rule of thumb is that industrial power consumption > commercial so you could make the argument that the increase use of power from personal use is offset by the reduction in the industrial use.
I'm not saying that is or isn't the case, merely trying to show that these issues are far too complex to draw direction conclusions without extreme levels of research and data gathering. Even then it's entirely possible the theory won't match up to reality.
edit: It's even possible that switching to electric doesn't drastically change refinery output as there are still a large array of other uses out of crude oil. Money is another big factor. Our local energy generation stagnated for so long because coal was so abundant that there was just no point trying to become more efficient or develop new technology due to how cheap coal was. Forcing the technology to evolve may not be a bad thing.
Electric cars are nice because even though the power is ultimately being produced using coal and oil it converts emissions to point pollution, which we're better equipped to control.
On July 29 2016 05:11 Seuss wrote: You can't say that and not link reviews.
Thankfully you are my steam friend and I can find them myself! INCOMING UNSOLICITED CRITIQUES OF YOUR CRITIQUES VIA PM!
Honestly, I don't think they're especially good compared to what other people wrote, and I'm not especially interested in improving my review-writing capability for the sake of appeasing people on the internet. When I wrote the reviews my main goal was to not be one of the one sentence people, because when I read reviews pretty much any reviewer who writes more than one sentence is useful, even if they aren't topping "most helpful". I would just as soon forget that people can even rate my reviews but curiosity gets the better of me. And then I get annoyed, because I'm thin-skinned and never got beyond that despite growing up with the internet.
On July 28 2016 23:25 Requizen wrote: I think my panic from yesterday has calmed down a bit but it's still extremely worrying to me. I guess all one can do is the best they can. I was already thinking of getting an electric car and we have been cutting back on beef in favor of white meats and produce. I know it's all just small stuff and I just wish there was more I could do as a person, but that's kind of all there is to it. Just gonna do my best and distract myself with models and gamez.
Where does the electricity for your electric car come from Requizen
I imagine the most effective way of helping the planet for one person is probably trying to get governments to do shit, or get into high-end research and make some beakers.
From a power grid that will be in place whether or not I have an electric car. While it's true that it's not entirely clean (especially once you add in the cost of production), the increase on the grid is probably overall less of a dent than filling up the car every week or more. Both are miniscule in the long run, but the electric car is also more forward thinking since, hopefully, that grid that charges it will eventually switch to more sustainable sources.
He is saying that your electric car is using electricity generated likely 40% by burning coal and 40% by burning fossil fuels...
Buying an electric car you lower your personal expenditure at the gas station but it gets burned by someone else for you instead.
Yeah, and what I'm saying is that whether or not I plug in a car, the power grid it pulls from is going to be running pretty much the same amount, if one charge of the battery affects the input/output at all. So either the grid is online and I use more gas in the car, or the grid is online with slight (if any) increase from the car. It's not like driving a gas vehicle turns off the power grid.
The grid produces a variable amount of power based on demand, by drawing more from it you're (technically, along with another million car owners,) making making them produce more power by burning more coal than they otherwise would.
If you load the car at off-peak hours when there is low demand it might not lead to any additional power production. You have maybe heard of the problem with too much power in the grid at times because of wind power and base load power plants like nuclear while low demand at the same time (night, holidays).
On July 29 2016 05:11 Seuss wrote: You can't say that and not link reviews.
Thankfully you are my steam friend and I can find them myself! INCOMING UNSOLICITED CRITIQUES OF YOUR CRITIQUES VIA PM!
Honestly, I don't think they're especially good compared to what other people wrote, and I'm not especially interested in improving my review-writing capability for the sake of appeasing people on the internet. When I wrote the reviews my main goal was to not be one of the one sentence people, because when I read reviews pretty much any reviewer who writes more than one sentence is useful, even if they aren't topping "most helpful". I would just as soon forget that people can even rate my reviews but curiosity gets the better of me. And then I get annoyed, because I'm thin-skinned and never got beyond that despite growing up with the internet.
Well too bad I sent you a critique anyway!
If you don't care you can just skip to the end and read the link I sent you which is only tangentially related.
On July 28 2016 23:25 Requizen wrote: I think my panic from yesterday has calmed down a bit but it's still extremely worrying to me. I guess all one can do is the best they can. I was already thinking of getting an electric car and we have been cutting back on beef in favor of white meats and produce. I know it's all just small stuff and I just wish there was more I could do as a person, but that's kind of all there is to it. Just gonna do my best and distract myself with models and gamez.
Where does the electricity for your electric car come from Requizen
I imagine the most effective way of helping the planet for one person is probably trying to get governments to do shit, or get into high-end research and make some beakers.
From a power grid that will be in place whether or not I have an electric car. While it's true that it's not entirely clean (especially once you add in the cost of production), the increase on the grid is probably overall less of a dent than filling up the car every week or more. Both are miniscule in the long run, but the electric car is also more forward thinking since, hopefully, that grid that charges it will eventually switch to more sustainable sources.
He is saying that your electric car is using electricity generated likely 40% by burning coal and 40% by burning fossil fuels...
Buying an electric car you lower your personal expenditure at the gas station but it gets burned by someone else for you instead.
Yeah, and what I'm saying is that whether or not I plug in a car, the power grid it pulls from is going to be running pretty much the same amount, if one charge of the battery affects the input/output at all. So either the grid is online and I use more gas in the car, or the grid is online with slight (if any) increase from the car. It's not like driving a gas vehicle turns off the power grid.
The grid produces a variable amount of power based on demand, by drawing more from it you're (technically, along with another million car owners,) making making them produce more power by burning more coal than they otherwise would.
If you load the car at off-peak hours when there is low demand it might not lead to any additional power production. You have maybe heard of the problem with too much power in the grid at times because of wind power and base load power plants like nuclear while low demand at the same time (night, holidays).
Anyone know how that works for charging stations? Do they just connect directly to the grid from their connection or is there a battery that recharges after it powers the vehicle?
even though i don't move on campus for a month and my classes don't start for a month plus i've basically been spending my days in the student center at uni because it has air conditioning and my house doesn't.
except for today where it was raining like hell but also humid at the same time. plus all the traffic because of the DNC. i'm so done with summer
On July 29 2016 07:24 suicideyear wrote: even though i don't move on campus for a month and my classes don't start for a month plus i've basically been spending my days in the student center at uni because it has air conditioning and my house doesn't.
except for today where it was raining like hell but also humid at the same time. plus all the traffic because of the DNC. i'm so done with summer
Seriously. I either want to go down the shore or hole up in my room more often than not. This heatwave can eat me ass.
On July 29 2016 09:11 Crusnik wrote: Fuck all of you, I'm working this heat....Gatorade is the Heavenly nectar of the gods in this heat
I play volleyball in it voluntarily on Saturdays and Sundays(and Wednesdays and Fridays and some Thursdays too but those are night time leagues and it's usually down into the low 80s by then and the sun has set so you don't get that baking feeling)... does that count?
Speaking of which someone I know took a bunch of pictures when I went to a tourney back up in Cleveland area and said I look pretty badass in them so maybe I'll post up my first pics ever to the site if I approve of his judgement(yes I'm preemptively claiming veto power, this post may disappear in the future numbers style).
EPT
