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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 24 2016 15:27 GMT
#25061
On May 25 2016 00:14 Requizen wrote:
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW


Purchasable cosmetics are really easy for me to get behind.

Full game is available, people like Req give Blizz dat $$$

:D

(i just bought the game today)
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 24 2016 15:30 GMT
#25062
:< i can't stream today. internet is having a bad time. :<
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 24 2016 15:33 GMT
#25063
On May 24 2016 23:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 10:56 killerdog wrote:
On May 24 2016 10:38 Gahlo wrote:
On May 24 2016 10:26 Requizen wrote:
On May 24 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
So, is the word "easy" when talking about programming the same as Godwin's Law? Because I can stand a debate I'm in.

What's the context here?

... refuses to acknowledge that even if anybody was given the time to do that to their best of their ability that eventually they would reach a point where that system would break down and need to be redone.

Riot's back end is notoriously shit in terms of scalability though... They've spent the last 4-5 years trying to bandaid/replace all the backend issues stemming from how inappropriate the original codebase was for what it's become today.

It's not a particularly useful criticism to make, since everyones known about it for the last 5 years and they're doing what they can, but you can't pretend that riot doesn't have unusually large issues with tech debt/scalability.

If they'd had the time and know-how at the start to create a more robust system, league would probably have 20x the features it has right now.

The game also wouldn't exist, because the reason they took on all that code debt was to get the game out ASAP. It's because they were able to do that that they picked up such a huge market share and were able to make their F2P model sustainable. Sure, if they had worked super carefully and slowly on the initial release, League would be more scalable, but it also wouldn't have any players.

To put it in other words, Riot correctly recognized that they were an Amazon model, not a Ben & Jerry's model. MOBAs are a field with deeply entrenched network effects, lock-in, and huge benefits to being first-to-market. If they had pursued the Ben & Jerry's model of slow, careful growth, they'd be just another forgotten game developer.


It wasn't just a time factor but also a pretty big experience gap. You see it still today where the company is set up with a lot of redundant components and lack of communication between different sectors. That's all the legacy from the initial management. A skilled, experienced and smart team wouldn't have made such a poorly built product in that timeframe if lead properly. So it's a combination of factors that lead to what is known as Riot.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 15:41:18
May 24 2016 15:40 GMT
#25064
On May 25 2016 00:14 Requizen wrote:
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW

Ask for the Otter's permission. She'll help you.

On May 25 2016 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:
(i just bought the game today)

Weakling.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 24 2016 15:44 GMT
#25065
On May 24 2016 22:48 Requizen wrote:
For those of you playing Overwatch, how highly do you value building "combo" teams? Like, do you go out of your way to pick Zarya if you see Pharah (for ults) or Soldier/Mei (for double shield front/mid line)? Or do you just pick which hero you think you should play for the given map, regardless of the other players?

I think it's obvious that people will go out of their way to pick a Tank/Healer if the team needs it, but how often, if ever, do you pick the specific character with synergy in mind?


I don't go for Combos ultimates with PuGs, that's way too difficult to coordinate. Characters that compliment one another I'll do.

Most of the time I'm picking to the map first and will adjust later as needed.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 24 2016 15:58 GMT
#25066
On May 25 2016 00:40 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:14 Requizen wrote:
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW

Ask for the Otter's permission. She'll help you.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:
(i just bought the game today)

Weakling.


Pls I lasted until after release.

It was always going to happen but I didn't pre-order like the DRONES.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 24 2016 16:05 GMT
#25067
On May 25 2016 00:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Pls I lasted until after release.

most men do asmo.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 24 2016 16:24 GMT
#25068


Missed music Monday but this my kind of day.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
May 24 2016 16:25 GMT
#25069
On May 25 2016 00:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:40 Alaric wrote:
On May 25 2016 00:14 Requizen wrote:
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW

Ask for the Otter's permission. She'll help you.

On May 25 2016 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:
(i just bought the game today)

Weakling.


Pls I lasted until after release.

It was always going to happen but I didn't pre-order like the DRONES.


My salt about Nost is still large enough to keep me from buying. Also finals coming up.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 24 2016 16:42 GMT
#25070
On May 25 2016 00:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:40 Alaric wrote:
On May 25 2016 00:14 Requizen wrote:
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW

Ask for the Otter's permission. She'll help you.

On May 25 2016 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:
(i just bought the game today)

Weakling.


Pls I lasted until after release.

It was always going to happen but I didn't pre-order like the DRONES.


I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my 12" tall Soldier 79 statue
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 24 2016 16:52 GMT
#25071
On May 25 2016 01:05 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Pls I lasted until after release.

most men do asmo.


This is the winning response to my post.

The rest of y'all take notice.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 24 2016 17:06 GMT
#25072
On May 25 2016 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:14 Requizen wrote:
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW


Purchasable cosmetics are really easy for me to get behind.

Full game is available, people like Req give Blizz dat $$$

:D

(i just bought the game today)

Yeah I was gonna say, req is the guy microtransactions were invented for.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 24 2016 17:27 GMT
#25073
Hey....
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 24 2016 17:29 GMT
#25074
Don't worry buddy, that's a compliment?
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 24 2016 17:42 GMT
#25075
Had to a wait a few minutes to queue last night, friend wanted to finish opening his 40 boxes...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 24 2016 17:48 GMT
#25076
I might get boxes? But probably not. I just want to play lol.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 17:52:09
May 24 2016 17:51 GMT
#25077
Personally not as drawn to the cosmetics as I would in League or Heroes. Not sure why that is.

Might change if/when I get better and more familiar maybe.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 24 2016 18:04 GMT
#25078
On May 25 2016 01:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 25 2016 00:40 Alaric wrote:
On May 25 2016 00:14 Requizen wrote:
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW

Ask for the Otter's permission. She'll help you.

On May 25 2016 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:
(i just bought the game today)

Weakling.


Pls I lasted until after release.

It was always going to happen but I didn't pre-order like the DRONES.


I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my 12" tall Soldier 79 statue

76, bruh, 76. I don't even play the game and I know that.

It's a shame Overwatch is a FPS. It's the only thing I dislike about it.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 24 2016 18:04 GMT
#25079
wait. you still get boxes from leveling right?
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 18:08:15
May 24 2016 18:06 GMT
#25080
yah it's 1 a level

On May 25 2016 02:51 mordek wrote:
Personally not as drawn to the cosmetics as I would in League or Heroes. Not sure why that is.

Might change if/when I get better and more familiar maybe.

it's because they are free and obtainable with little effort. You now know how it is to get something exclusive.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
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