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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 21:39:54
May 23 2016 21:36 GMT
#25041
On May 24 2016 06:33 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 06:27 Scip wrote:
On May 23 2016 23:36 suicideyear wrote:
anyway its been out for a minute and i can honestly say i'm not feeling stellaris. not enough to refund it but yeah. i don't think i "get" paradox games, i play ck2 and none of the crazy shit ever happens. i have EU3 owned too and i haven't even tried to play that.



music monday

I mean every single part of stellaris is broken
I can't even think of one that isn't

I guess empire creation is working as intended after the first hotfix? The only thing that comes to mind though


its got potential, just need to wait until they hit like v1.10

cities skylines wasnt bad on release iirc

I'm somewhat tempted to go try a playthrough where I just try to win as fast as possible abusing ALL the broken things in the game

enslavement evade corvette spam with transports/construction ships as distractions to snowball vassalize people from 0 to 2π using 5 core planets with sectors made entirely of single android planets

I am forgetting other things?

In my current playthrough (insane diff 600 system 17 AI) I'm at year 2285 and vassalized about 2/3s of the galaxy, wonder how quickly you can actually finish a game when abusing all the broken things.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 23 2016 22:00 GMT
#25042
Getting online to squad up for overwatch. I'll be in discord if you want join.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 23 2016 22:16 GMT
#25043
Muzik Mundai
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 23 2016 23:03 GMT
#25044
The undisputed king of draft continues his reign.
This time with triskadekaphobia.dek

2ez
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 23 2016 23:07 GMT
#25045
I was hoping OW wouldn't be down on eu
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 23 2016 23:16 GMT
#25046
On May 24 2016 08:07 Eppa! wrote:
I was hoping OW wouldn't be down on eu

Launch day.

Servers online.

Pick one.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 24 2016 00:01 GMT
#25047
First game, first Symmetra play of the game.

All is well.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 24 2016 00:19 GMT
#25048
http://www.lolesports.com/en_US/articles/fantasy-lcs-changes-2016-summer-split

Warm up them vocal cords boys!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 24 2016 01:25 GMT
#25049
Oh god people spacial awareness is TL mod levels. Stuck in Elo hell ;(
+ Show Spoiler +
not really but the games suck when there is 0 coordination
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 24 2016 01:26 GMT
#25050
On May 24 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
So, is the word "easy" when talking about programming the same as Godwin's Law? Because I can stand a debate I'm in.

What's the context here?
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 01:38:31
May 24 2016 01:38 GMT
#25051
On May 24 2016 10:26 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
So, is the word "easy" when talking about programming the same as Godwin's Law? Because I can stand a debate I'm in.

What's the context here?

There's a thread about chroma skins and when asked why they stopped making them a Riot Developer said that with the way skins work in League that Chroma's are effectively different skins, which means that while the texture change is easy to do that it would still need all the hooking up that a skin would normally entail and that with the price range they were targeted at with poor sales that it made more sense to just make 750RP skins like the D&D set. So, long story short, if they wanted to have chromas being worth making they'd need to redo how the game handles skins.

Then some guy comes in and says Riot is bad/stupid/lazy for not making aspects of the game scalable, maintainable, and expandable for the indefinite future and refuses to acknowledge that even if anybody was given the time to do that to their best of their ability that eventually they would reach a point where that system would break down and need to be redone.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 02:00:45
May 24 2016 01:56 GMT
#25052
On May 24 2016 10:38 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 10:26 Requizen wrote:
On May 24 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
So, is the word "easy" when talking about programming the same as Godwin's Law? Because I can stand a debate I'm in.

What's the context here?

... refuses to acknowledge that even if anybody was given the time to do that to their best of their ability that eventually they would reach a point where that system would break down and need to be redone.

Riot's back end is notoriously shit in terms of scalability though... They've spent the last 4-5 years trying to bandaid/replace all the backend issues stemming from how inappropriate the original codebase was for what it's become today.

It's not a particularly useful criticism to make, since everyones known about it for the last 5 years and they're doing what they can, but you can't pretend that riot doesn't have unusually large issues with tech debt/scalability.

If they'd had the time and know-how at the start to create a more robust system, league would probably have 20x the features it has right now.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 24 2016 02:02 GMT
#25053
On May 24 2016 10:38 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 10:26 Requizen wrote:
On May 24 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
So, is the word "easy" when talking about programming the same as Godwin's Law? Because I can stand a debate I'm in.

What's the context here?

There's a thread about chroma skins and when asked why they stopped making them a Riot Developer said that with the way skins work in League that Chroma's are effectively different skins, which means that while the texture change is easy to do that it would still need all the hooking up that a skin would normally entail and that with the price range they were targeted at with poor sales that it made more sense to just make 750RP skins like the D&D set. So, long story short, if they wanted to have chromas being worth making they'd need to redo how the game handles skins.

Then some guy comes in and says Riot is bad/stupid/lazy for not making aspects of the game scalable, maintainable, and expandable for the indefinite future and refuses to acknowledge that even if anybody was given the time to do that to their best of their ability that eventually they would reach a point where that system would break down and need to be redone.

Any time someone says that making or maintaining games is easy, ignore them. 100% of the time, they have no idea what they're talking about.
It's your boy Guzma!
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 24 2016 02:30 GMT
#25054
I still remember one guy on the Starbound forums arguing that the dev team was wasting their time when they all moved to the same location so that they could actually develop the game in the same physical building, and that physically being near each other was no more efficient than being strewn across the world in different time zones. It was rather dumb.

Also, here's a michael jackson/donkey kong mashup:

"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 24 2016 03:47 GMT
#25055
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 24 2016 13:48 GMT
#25056
For those of you playing Overwatch, how highly do you value building "combo" teams? Like, do you go out of your way to pick Zarya if you see Pharah (for ults) or Soldier/Mei (for double shield front/mid line)? Or do you just pick which hero you think you should play for the given map, regardless of the other players?

I think it's obvious that people will go out of their way to pick a Tank/Healer if the team needs it, but how often, if ever, do you pick the specific character with synergy in mind?
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 24 2016 13:54 GMT
#25057
I occasionally factor team synergy in, but mostly my picks are more map based.

Roadhog is my go-to tank, but I won't pick him on most payload attack maps. Tracer is by far my best, but I struggle with her on certain maps as well, and will often opt to go Pharah instead (overcoming the z-axis issues).
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 24 2016 14:45 GMT
#25058
What are some combos you would consider picking for synergy even if it wasn't necessarily the most optimal for map or rest of team?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 24 2016 14:58 GMT
#25059
On May 24 2016 10:56 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 10:38 Gahlo wrote:
On May 24 2016 10:26 Requizen wrote:
On May 24 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
So, is the word "easy" when talking about programming the same as Godwin's Law? Because I can stand a debate I'm in.

What's the context here?

... refuses to acknowledge that even if anybody was given the time to do that to their best of their ability that eventually they would reach a point where that system would break down and need to be redone.

Riot's back end is notoriously shit in terms of scalability though... They've spent the last 4-5 years trying to bandaid/replace all the backend issues stemming from how inappropriate the original codebase was for what it's become today.

It's not a particularly useful criticism to make, since everyones known about it for the last 5 years and they're doing what they can, but you can't pretend that riot doesn't have unusually large issues with tech debt/scalability.

If they'd had the time and know-how at the start to create a more robust system, league would probably have 20x the features it has right now.

The game also wouldn't exist, because the reason they took on all that code debt was to get the game out ASAP. It's because they were able to do that that they picked up such a huge market share and were able to make their F2P model sustainable. Sure, if they had worked super carefully and slowly on the initial release, League would be more scalable, but it also wouldn't have any players.

To put it in other words, Riot correctly recognized that they were an Amazon model, not a Ben & Jerry's model. MOBAs are a field with deeply entrenched network effects, lock-in, and huge benefits to being first-to-market. If they had pursued the Ben & Jerry's model of slow, careful growth, they'd be just another forgotten game developer.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 24 2016 15:14 GMT
#25060
FUCK I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD PURCHASABLE LOOT BOXES

SELF CONTROL IS REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW
It's your boy Guzma!
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