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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
April 27 2016 08:02 GMT
#23861
DOMS and recovery are completely separate.

Truth is: We actually have no fucking idea what DOMS is. For the longest time it was believed its some buildup of lactic acid in the muscles. That has been disproven a couple years ago. Right now it is believed its micro tears in the muscle fibers. (Unless it has changed again, I'm not up to date on that stuff anymore)

Anyways. 1 rest day should be enough for you to recover from sparring, especially if you sleep and eat enough. So no worries about that.

Now the real funny thing: Training the muscle WHILE IT HAS DOMS actually helps with the pain. No fucking joke. Again, nobody knows why. So, you really should go to training ^_^
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-27 08:14:47
April 27 2016 08:13 GMT
#23862
On April 27 2016 17:02 Celial wrote:
DOMS and recovery are completely separate.

Truth is: We actually have no fucking idea what DOMS is. For the longest time it was believed its some buildup of lactic acid in the muscles. That has been disproven a couple years ago. Right now it is believed its micro tears in the muscle fibers. (Unless it has changed again, I'm not up to date on that stuff anymore)

Anyways. 1 rest day should be enough for you to recover from sparring, especially if you sleep and eat enough. So no worries about that.

Now the real funny thing: Training the muscle WHILE IT HAS DOMS actually helps with the pain. No fucking joke. Again, nobody knows why. So, you really should go to training ^_^

Yea DOMS are freaking weird. I echo this and also say just do some stretches each day. Find that helps a lot with DOMS.

The real thing to look out for from what I've read is any kind of sharp pain. The dull ache is find to work through.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
April 27 2016 09:27 GMT
#23863
On April 27 2016 17:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2016 17:02 Celial wrote:
DOMS and recovery are completely separate.

Truth is: We actually have no fucking idea what DOMS is. For the longest time it was believed its some buildup of lactic acid in the muscles. That has been disproven a couple years ago. Right now it is believed its micro tears in the muscle fibers. (Unless it has changed again, I'm not up to date on that stuff anymore)

Anyways. 1 rest day should be enough for you to recover from sparring, especially if you sleep and eat enough. So no worries about that.

Now the real funny thing: Training the muscle WHILE IT HAS DOMS actually helps with the pain. No fucking joke. Again, nobody knows why. So, you really should go to training ^_^

Yea DOMS are freaking weird. I echo this and also say just do some stretches each day. Find that helps a lot with DOMS.

The real thing to look out for from what I've read is any kind of sharp pain. The dull ache is find to work through.


I always use the following "guideline" when it comes to SHARP pain (acute pain while doing something):

If I stop the movement and it goes away immediately or within a few minutes: Everything is fine, continue. Pay extra attention to form, if applicable.

If it goes away after a good nights sleep, OR if it becomes less and less and is gone after max 3 days: Everything is fine, but try to figure out if you did something wrong, and find another way of doing things (another exercise, for example, for the same muscle group).

If it doesnt get BETTER after a good nights sleep, or is still present after 3 days: Go see a doctor.

I never got injured bad enough that I needed to go to the doc, but after a while I figured out that I should not do butterfly-type of movements with any significant weight... (left shoulder hurts baaaaaaaad).
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 27 2016 11:42 GMT
#23864
53 packs.
+ Show Spoiler +
Epics: Fobidden Flame x3, Cabalist's Tome, Crazed Worshipper, Tentacles for Arms, Faceless Shambler, Ancient Harbinger, Blood Warriors, DOOM!, Twilight Summoner, Darkspeaker,
Legendaries: took me 36 packs to open... the Boogeyman.
Golden Commons: Evolved Kobold (same pack as Evolve hue), Twilight Flamecaller, Cult Apothecary x2, Shatter
Golden Rares: Infest, Demented Frostcaller, Klaxxi Amber-weaver, that Grizzly thing, Corrupted Healbot

775 dust

Basically I used up all my luck on a couple triple rare packs, and I opened jack shit apart from 4-5 epics.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-27 12:38:12
April 27 2016 12:37 GMT
#23865
Alright, I'm not gonna lie, Whispers of the Old Gods is fun. Thought I was done with this game, but now I'm considering buying packs...

If I hadn't opened Golden Vek'lor in one of my free packs, I probably wouldn't have kept playing
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 27 2016 13:02 GMT
#23866
I have to admit that standard is more fun than I thought it would be. At least in casual decks have barely crystalized so you basically never know what you're going up against, there are only a few aggro shaman tryhards.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 27 2016 13:29 GMT
#23867
Evolve Shaman is so neat atm. Definitely want to play around with that one, it's like casino mage but way cooler.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-27 13:49:24
April 27 2016 13:39 GMT
#23868
I really want to get more of those aggro mid-range Shaman cards. I've always liked that class but it's really never been good as far as I can recall.

It's chaos out there. I really want to see what kinds of weird metas develop.

Also Forbidden Shaping is hilarious.

Edit: Even funnier than Forbidden Shaping is watching 6ah attempt to get Yogg'saron to work.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-27 17:02:24
April 27 2016 13:55 GMT
#23869
Was gonna answer the DOMS but Celial got it.

On April 27 2016 12:26 Gahlo wrote:
God, Pandemic can be so hard when it wants to. Had Red, Black, and Blue exploding in the same game at the same time tonight.

Not too long ago had an experience where every single epidemic card was in the top half of the deck. We got wrecked.

And thank you soniv for being my biggest fan lol

WoToG opening, 34 packs I think
+ Show Spoiler +

Rare:
Addled Grizzly, 2x Kaxxi Amber-Weaver, 3x Infested Wolf, 2x Cult Sorcerer, Demented Frostcaller, 2x Servant of Yogg, 2x Selfless Hero, Steward of Darkshire, Shadow Word: Horror, Shifting Shade, 2x Journey Below, 2x Thistle Tea, Master of Evo, 2x Thing From Below, Darkshire Librarian, Spreading Madness, 2x Blood to Ichor, Bloodsail Cultist, Disc of Cthun, Eater of Secrets, 2x Midnight Drake, Corrupted Healbot, Corrupted Seer
Epic:
Wisps of the Old Gods, Giant Sand Worm, Forbidden Flame, Blood Warriors, 2x Twilight Summoner, Twilight Hammer
Legendary:
Hallazeal

Just been playing Beastmode Hunter and its preeeeetty good. Got the makings of midrange shaman coming together. Some patron shenanigans may be in order with Blood to Ichor. Part of me wants to try it in warlock with spreading madness lol. Don't really seem to have much else going from these pulls.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
April 27 2016 14:09 GMT
#23870
thx guys

Guess I'll go get beaten up again :p
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 27 2016 14:10 GMT
#23871
Ugh losing Shielded Minibot, Muster, and Zombie Chow makes the early game for Paladins of all types freaking hard to play.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-27 14:13:13
April 27 2016 14:11 GMT
#23872
You mean it doesn't make it as free, powerful and braindead as before?
C'mon, hate on Rogue all you want, but you can't be taken seriously when you're a paladin player.

How would you get the patron to stick for at least a turn before you can start spamming them though Mordek?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 27 2016 14:17 GMT
#23873
On April 27 2016 23:11 Alaric wrote:
You mean it doesn't make it as free, powerful and braindead as before?
C'mon, hate on Rogue all you want, but you can't be taken seriously when you're a paladin player.

How would you get the patron to stick for at least a turn before you can start spamming them though Mordek?

Hey man, I played midrange and control Paladin.

And them sometimes secrets
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 27 2016 14:19 GMT
#23874
On April 27 2016 22:55 mordek wrote:
Was gonna answer the DOMS but Celial got it.

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2016 12:26 Gahlo wrote:
God, Pandemic can be so hard when it wants to. Had Red, Black, and Blue exploding in the same game at the same time tonight.

Not too long ago had an experience where every single epidemic card was in the top half of the deck. We got wrecked.

And thank you soniv for being my biggest fan lol

WoToG opening, 34 packs I think
+ Show Spoiler +

Rare:
Addled Grizzly, 2x Kaxxi Amber-Weaver, 3x Infested Wolf, 2x Cult Sorcerer, Demented Frostcaller, 2x Servant of Yogg, 2x Selfless Hero, Steward of Darkshire, Shadow Word: Horror, Shifting Shade, 2x Journey Below, 2x Thistle Tea, Master of Evo, 2x Thing From Below, Darkshire Librarian, Spreading Madness, 2x Blood to Ichor, Bloodsail Cultist, Disc of Cthun, Eater of Secrets, 2x Midnight Drake, Corrupted Healbot, Corrupted Seer
Epic:
Wisps of the Old Gods, Giant Sand Worm, Forbidden Flame, Blood Warriors, 2x Twilight Summoner
Legendary:
Hallazeal

Just been playing Beastmode Hunter and its preeeeetty good. Got the makings of midrange shaman coming together. Some patron shenanigans may be in order with Blood to Ichor. Part of me wants to try it in warlock with spreading madness lol. Don't really seem to have much else going from these pulls.

You guys built the deck wrong then. lol

If you're playing with 4 epidemic cards you are supposed to split the deck into four piles, and an epidemic card, and then shuffle those piles. Then, you stack the piles on top of each other.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-27 14:24:30
April 27 2016 14:24 GMT
#23875
On April 27 2016 23:17 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2016 23:11 Alaric wrote:
You mean it doesn't make it as free, powerful and braindead as before?
C'mon, hate on Rogue all you want, but you can't be taken seriously when you're a paladin player.

How would you get the patron to stick for at least a turn before you can start spamming them though Mordek?

Hey man, I played midrange and control Paladin.

And them sometimes secrets

Same thing, about all Paladin was "vomit your mana-efficient hand on the board on curve", that's about as interesting as Siege Rhino.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 27 2016 14:31 GMT
#23876
On April 27 2016 23:19 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2016 22:55 mordek wrote:
Was gonna answer the DOMS but Celial got it.

On April 27 2016 12:26 Gahlo wrote:
God, Pandemic can be so hard when it wants to. Had Red, Black, and Blue exploding in the same game at the same time tonight.

Not too long ago had an experience where every single epidemic card was in the top half of the deck. We got wrecked.

And thank you soniv for being my biggest fan lol

WoToG opening, 34 packs I think
+ Show Spoiler +

Rare:
Addled Grizzly, 2x Kaxxi Amber-Weaver, 3x Infested Wolf, 2x Cult Sorcerer, Demented Frostcaller, 2x Servant of Yogg, 2x Selfless Hero, Steward of Darkshire, Shadow Word: Horror, Shifting Shade, 2x Journey Below, 2x Thistle Tea, Master of Evo, 2x Thing From Below, Darkshire Librarian, Spreading Madness, 2x Blood to Ichor, Bloodsail Cultist, Disc of Cthun, Eater of Secrets, 2x Midnight Drake, Corrupted Healbot, Corrupted Seer
Epic:
Wisps of the Old Gods, Giant Sand Worm, Forbidden Flame, Blood Warriors, 2x Twilight Summoner
Legendary:
Hallazeal

Just been playing Beastmode Hunter and its preeeeetty good. Got the makings of midrange shaman coming together. Some patron shenanigans may be in order with Blood to Ichor. Part of me wants to try it in warlock with spreading madness lol. Don't really seem to have much else going from these pulls.

You guys built the deck wrong then. lol

If you're playing with 4 epidemic cards you are supposed to split the deck into four piles, and an epidemic card, and then shuffle those piles. Then, you stack the piles on top of each other.

Yep, I realized our error It had been many moons. I think I actually split them out and then shuffled the whole deck.

@Alaric, I'm not sure what you mean, its the same story as current patron with whirlwind, inner rage. You just can't do the Death's Bite on 4 into patron on 5. It's probably not as good but like I said may try it.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 27 2016 14:36 GMT
#23877
I never thought I'd see the day that Shaman was the scariest deck for me on ladder o.O
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 27 2016 14:37 GMT
#23878
Oh, right! I'm dumb, I confused it with Spreading Madness for some reason. I'm super exhausted today and keep sleeping under 6 hours/day so that's my bad.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 27 2016 14:48 GMT
#23879
On April 27 2016 23:10 Requizen wrote:
Ugh losing Shielded Minibot, Muster, and Zombie Chow makes the early game for Paladins of all types freaking hard to play.


Most classes lost their early board presence. Basically unless you're Shaman or Hunter the game has slowed down considerably.

Which is why I was absolutely wrecking fools with a "Tony Hawk's Pro Skater" ramp druid.

+ Show Spoiler +
  • 2*Innervate
  • 2*Raven Idol
  • 2*Wild Growth
  • 2*Wrath
  • 2arnassus Aspirant
  • 2*Nourish
  • 2*Naga Sea Witch
  • Cairne
  • 2*Master Jouster
  • Emperor Thaurissan
  • Sylvanas
  • Baron Geddon
  • 1*Ancient of War (only have the 1)
  • Chromaggus
  • Ragnaros
  • Arch-Thief Rafaam
  • Aviana
  • Cenarius
  • Nefarian
  • 2*North Sea Kraken
  • Ysera


After I got my WoG packs I took out Geddon and Emperor for 2*Mire Keepers, but I basically walked all over everything I encountered because basically all non-aggro decks right now have crappy board presence for the first 4 turns, and that's all this deck needs to start putting down ridiculous threats.

I would have beat an Aggro Shaman as well but I totally mindfarted a play and rekt myself.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-27 14:53:05
April 27 2016 14:52 GMT
#23880
I don't know. I'm not having much success with YET, but Doodz Pally feels good with Selfless Hero, Charge/DS guy, and DS buffer shield + all that other stuff. Even that new +1/+2 feels nice.

Edit: it should go without saying that I'm bad at this game. This probably sucks but it IS fun.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
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