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crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
March 24 2015 19:18 GMT
#92261
Yet another plane dropped. I'm taking a transpacific 3-course flight home for the summer and it's not fun.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 19:19:05
March 24 2015 19:18 GMT
#92262
On March 25 2015 04:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
That's what Locke would want me to think...


[image loading]

Edit: Freaking new page + post making me look like a psychopath.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
kingfr0st
Profile Joined January 2015
Germany4 Posts
March 24 2015 19:19 GMT
#92263
Wow. Just a few hours and this thread gained like 4 more pages. I guess i'm not able to keep up with the amount of posts that get posted here.
Anyways, how was the day LiquidBuddies ?
Piglet <3
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 24 2015 19:22 GMT
#92264
On March 25 2015 04:19 kingfr0st wrote:
Wow. Just a few hours and this thread gained like 4 more pages. I guess i'm not able to keep up with the amount of posts that get posted here.
Anyways, how was the day LiquidBuddies ?


Hah, you'll fit in just fine here.

And, my silly German friend, there are still several hours left in the day. Just a couple more hours before I can go home and dick around til Iris*.

*for your reference - community D&D campaign in a world created and run by our very own Asmodeus
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 24 2015 19:23 GMT
#92265
On March 25 2015 04:18 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 04:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
That's what Locke would want me to think...


[image loading]

Edit: Freaking new page + post making me look like a psychopath.

Yeah I was wondering about that. But then I decided that it's best not to question you, in case I invoke your ire.

On March 25 2015 04:19 kingfr0st wrote:
Wow. Just a few hours and this thread gained like 4 more pages. I guess i'm not able to keep up with the amount of posts that get posted here.
Anyways, how was the day LiquidBuddies ?

Off-topic can move pretty fast when it wants to. It's pretty slow on weekends however.

And my day was great! It's not over yet though so anything could happen.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
March 24 2015 19:23 GMT
#92266
Oh yeah, how many people have seen that new Tie Fighter anime short?

It's pretty sweet.

Steam: rook492
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 24 2015 19:26 GMT
#92267
On March 25 2015 04:18 crimethinking wrote:
Yet another plane dropped. I'm taking a transpacific 3-course flight home for the summer and it's not fun.


If it makes you feel any better the only reason why planes dropping is news is because it's so rare to happen. It is still one of the safest forms of transport if not the safest one.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
March 24 2015 19:27 GMT
#92268
On March 25 2015 03:26 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 02:57 Frudgey wrote:
I mean some philosophers state that Math doesn't tell us anything as all Math is is a bunch of tautologies, which can be considered to be useless knowledge.

Sort of. More accurately, the problem is that it is technically impossible to prove anything if we don't have a system to prove it in. But because that system has assumption in it, it means our proof relies on those assumptions become correct. And if we can't prove those assumptions, we ultimately just have to have faith that it just actually works.

For example, you might remember back to highschool where you had to solve problems like "What's is the angle in this corner of a triangle if I give you two other angles?" and you'd use the the rule that all triangles have 180° degrees and figure out the answer. That's a case where you solve a problem ("What is the angle?") within a system ("Triangles have 180°"). But the thing is, we can't technically prove that all regular triangles have 180°. It's something we just have to accept is a fact of life! And if we change our system we work in then these assumptions don't apply any more and we have to start all over again. For example going from regular geometry to hyperbolic geometry we find suddenly triangles can have less than 180°. Oh dear.

This seems very deeply unsatisfying. Doesn't that mean that basically all our human knowledge is based on some assumptions and if we proved those assumptions wrong then the entirety of human knowledge collapses? Yes. It does.

Now we could detour into philosophy (or more specifically epistemology) about how we try to reconcile this fact, such as the use of empiricism and falsification. However this is probably going a bit too deep for my post but you might find it interesting reading.

Disclaimer: I've taken a lot of liberties writing this post so it isn't crazy boring. Don't actually use what I wrote in a philosophy exam. (That's also plagarism lol)


I think the general thought that the fundamental basis of mathematics needs to be proven is mislead and the contrast that anything unproven is an assumption is not the right one. And there are alternatives to this picture. For instance, mathematical platonism is a beautiful dissolution. We do not rely on assumption, we rather grasp mathematical entities, relations and propositions. And just as no non-skeptic is going to demand proof for the outside world, we need not demand proof for the most fundamental mathematical entities.

Or alternatively you can go the Wittgenstein "hinge-route" and claim that to use a word/proposition without justification does not mean to use it without right. Some propositions are just constitutive of the justification game and thereby themselves not subject to justificatory evaluation. Again, the aim is to get rid of the demand for proof while not dooming us to unjustified assumptions.



crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
March 24 2015 19:27 GMT
#92269
On March 25 2015 04:26 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 04:18 crimethinking wrote:
Yet another plane dropped. I'm taking a transpacific 3-course flight home for the summer and it's not fun.


If it makes you feel any better the only reason why planes dropping is news is because it's so rare to happen. It is still one of the safest forms of transport if not the safest one.

I know. But flights are not fun, especially in economy class.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 24 2015 19:27 GMT
#92270
trains are the only thing that's safer IIRC

and transpacific isn't easy on a train
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
March 24 2015 19:28 GMT
#92271
On March 25 2015 04:19 kingfr0st wrote:
Wow. Just a few hours and this thread gained like 4 more pages. I guess i'm not able to keep up with the amount of posts that get posted here.
Anyways, how was the day LiquidBuddies ?

i like you

i'll miss your starry eyed innocence once the EUROS get their filthy, cancer-ridden hands on you
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 19:30:50
March 24 2015 19:30 GMT
#92272
On March 24 2015 06:52 PrinceXizor wrote:
When alaric is the only euro avoiding mod action lately you guys need to reign it in. <3


you foking wat mate
i avent been warned in ages swear on me mum

On March 25 2015 04:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
trains are the only thing that's safer IIRC

and transpacific isn't easy on a train

filthy casuals
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 24 2015 19:30 GMT
#92273
Lol yearly review time. This is going to be fun. Brb printing 200 emails.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 24 2015 19:30 GMT
#92274
On March 25 2015 04:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
trains are the only thing that's safer IIRC

and transpacific isn't easy on a train


Trains depends on region a lot more I think. Here if you go on trains in KZN you'll get mugged and killed more often than not but trains in CT are safe-ish. I hear they sometimes just mug and rape you if you're a male so you'll be too embarrassed to report the crime. Better than dying I guess but that was more a Joburg thing.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 24 2015 19:30 GMT
#92275
That only means you've got to play FF VI, Frudgey.

Haven't taken the plane ever, and my goddamn mind's tendancy to worry about stuff it gets shoved in his face that nope, once you're doing it it's not that bad in the end, the pre-flight 2 hours at the airport or whatever would be pretty bad for my serenity of mind. Goddamn mind.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 24 2015 19:32 GMT
#92276
I really love flying. My first flight over to Arizona a couple months ago was amazing - I had never flown alone before, I had the row to myself, I had no obligation to talk to anyone at all, and just a few hours of peaceful airtime to myself felt so good. My other 3 flights that trip were packed, so not nearly as enjoyable, but I still love take-off/landing.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 24 2015 19:33 GMT
#92277
2 hours is only for int flights Alaric. Domestic you can be there like 45 minutes before and be fine. Unless that's changed since I was last in Europe which was about 8 years ago. Nothing changed here so I assume it's the same.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 19:35:17
March 24 2015 19:34 GMT
#92278
the only time i actually got rekt is when somebody fake reported me and made up a story so I'd get banned
lazy mod didn't bother checking lel

but that was old TL, such things certainly wouldn't happen here. We have only the most responsible and healthy moderation on LL

On March 25 2015 04:30 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 04:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
trains are the only thing that's safer IIRC

and transpacific isn't easy on a train


Trains depends on region a lot more I think. Here if you go on trains in KZN you'll get mugged and killed more often than not but trains in CT are safe-ish. I hear they sometimes just mug and rape you if you're a male so you'll be too embarrassed to report the crime. Better than dying I guess but that was more a Joburg thing.

that's not the train's fault though, it's you getting mugged and killed.
if the train derailed and killed everyone, while you were being mugged and killed, then we could have a jolly argument
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kingfr0st
Profile Joined January 2015
Germany4 Posts
March 24 2015 19:34 GMT
#92279
On March 25 2015 04:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Hah, you'll fit in just fine here.

And, my silly German friend, there are still several hours left in the day. Just a couple more hours before I can go home and dick around til Iris*.

*for your reference - community D&D campaign in a world created and run by our very own Asmodeus



Is this some sort of Pen & Paper ?
Piglet <3
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
March 24 2015 19:38 GMT
#92280
i like flying even tho ive only done it a few times. have a couple beers in the terminal then read for a while in the sky. pretty good scene.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
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