• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:45
CET 18:45
KST 02:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion List of top players active on ShieldBattery Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12351 users

[WCS 2019] Global Finals - Group C - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 27 28 29 Next All
NOTICE

Stricter standards for balance-whine moderation are in effect, and will be exercised at the moderation team's discretion.

Also, live report threads are not the venue for region-lock debates or excessively antagonizing fans/players of specific regions.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 26 2019 02:27 GMT
#21
What's the chance of HeroMarine winning against Classic? Classic is a PvT specialist right?
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
October 26 2019 02:32 GMT
#22
On October 26 2019 10:55 Waxangel wrote:
Notice to everyone!

I think some of the balance-whine talk got out of hand and really derailed the Group B LR thread at points. We're enforcing stricter standards behind balance whining in the Global Finals LR threads from this point on..


Really appreciate this
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 02:49:19
October 26 2019 02:49 GMT
#23
On October 26 2019 11:27 geokilla wrote:
What's the chance of HeroMarine winning against Classic? Classic is a PvT specialist right?


Classic's PvT winrate this year is under 50%. Heromarine's definitely got a shot. He played a very good series in Montreal against Showtime, but I'm not quite sure where his overall TvP level is at.

If I had to choose a number I'd go around 30%, but that's mostly a guess.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
October 26 2019 03:03 GMT
#24
On October 26 2019 11:27 geokilla wrote:
What's the chance of HeroMarine winning against Classic? Classic is a PvT specialist right?


Classic is historically a PvT specialist, but i dont think he's particularly strong in that matchup this year, especially after the enhanced shockwave buff
TL+ Member
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
October 26 2019 03:03 GMT
#25
Glad that there are stricter standards for moderating balance whine.

I think Zerg is the strongest right now, but it's also not as if rando zergs are winning tournaments right now. Dark, Rogue, and Serral are extremely good players, and even if they're helped by balance they're still fantastic talents.

Hoping Classic makes it out!
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 03:05:43
October 26 2019 03:05 GMT
#26
On October 26 2019 12:03 dysenterymd wrote:
Glad that there are stricter standards for moderating balance whine.

I think Zerg is the strongest right now, but it's also not as if rando zergs are winning tournaments right now. Dark, Rogue, and Serral are extremely good players, and even if they're helped by balance they're still fantastic talents.

Hoping Classic makes it out!


nobody in this tournament is a "rando"

also rogue hasnt played yet, but the same thing applies to soo. he's one of the zerg GOATs

edit; nvm youre talking about tournaments in general not blizzcon
TL+ Member
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
October 26 2019 03:05 GMT
#27
Classic numero uno
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 03:08:37
October 26 2019 03:07 GMT
#28
On October 26 2019 12:05 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2019 12:03 dysenterymd wrote:
Glad that there are stricter standards for moderating balance whine.

I think Zerg is the strongest right now, but it's also not as if rando zergs are winning tournaments right now. Dark, Rogue, and Serral are extremely good players, and even if they're helped by balance they're still fantastic talents.

Hoping Classic makes it out!


nobody in this tournament is a "rando"

also rogue hasnt played yet, but the same thing applies to soo. he's one of the zerg GOATs

edit; nvm youre talking about tournaments in general not blizzcon


Forgot about soO! But yeah, I don't think this is as bad as the first infestor BL era, though I still hope things become a bit better balanced post blizzcon. The top zerg right now are definitely helped by balance, but it's not as if they deserve no credit for their achievements
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 03:24:09
October 26 2019 03:12 GMT
#29
Let's go herO!

Come one let's make Kespa proud
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 26 2019 03:24 GMT
#30
Stricter standards for balance whining today? Thank god the patchzergs are already in the RO8 so we can focus on the games.

User was warned for this post
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 26 2019 03:28 GMT
#31
Heromarine looks really different without glasses.

It gives me a greater appreciation for how 'people' can't tell that Clark Kent is Superman.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1201 Posts
October 26 2019 03:30 GMT
#32
On October 26 2019 12:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Heromarine looks really different without glasses.

It gives me a greater appreciation for how 'people' can't tell that Clark Kent is Superman.


I mean he does look different but you can still clearly tell its Heromarine :D
Commentator
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 26 2019 03:32 GMT
#33
On October 26 2019 11:27 geokilla wrote:
What's the chance of HeroMarine winning against Classic? Classic is a PvT specialist right?

Foreign Terran vs Korean Protoss is supposed to be a ''foregone conclusion''.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 03:33:07
October 26 2019 03:32 GMT
#34
On October 26 2019 12:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Heromarine looks really different without glasses.

It gives me a greater appreciation for how 'people' can't tell that Clark Kent is Superman.


When he has his glasses he's the humble, gentle terran player Heromarine, but when he take them off he become Big Gabe streamer extraordinaire
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
October 26 2019 03:35 GMT
#35
Caught between cheering for Big Gabe because he's Big Gabe and cheering for Classic because it's his last tournament and I'll miss him
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 26 2019 03:42 GMT
#36
The small upgrade advantage window for Classic worked out well for him.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10131 Posts
October 26 2019 03:43 GMT
#37
so many storms
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 26 2019 03:44 GMT
#38
That looked pretty one sided
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3174 Posts
October 26 2019 03:44 GMT
#39
Just owned left right and center.
Artosis loves Starcraft
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
October 26 2019 03:46 GMT
#40
Heromarine isn't very good.. I would of preferred to see top tier terran like Innovation or TY instead at WCS.

User was warned for this post
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 27 28 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
02:00
Ro24 Group F
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Airneanach0
Liquipedia
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
Clem vs herOLIVE!
WardiTV1590
ComeBackTV 1469
IntoTheiNu 697
TaKeTV 501
IndyStarCraft 300
Rex104
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 300
ProTech110
Rex 104
BRAT_OK 54
MindelVK 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3751
Rain 1224
Shuttle 449
Soulkey 134
firebathero 105
Zeus 83
Mind 72
Killer 31
Barracks 26
Hm[arnc] 16
[ Show more ]
Aegong 11
sorry 11
scan(afreeca) 10
910 9
soO 8
Dota 2
qojqva3419
Gorgc3191
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1475
allub542
byalli507
jkaem184
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King57
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor409
Other Games
FrodaN7498
singsing2048
Liquid`RaSZi1726
Beastyqt715
syndereN223
KnowMe186
CosmosSc2 27
Railgan13
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV984
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 38
• Michael_bg 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Shiphtur433
Upcoming Events
BSL
2h 15m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
16h 15m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
18h 15m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 23h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.