EPTWESG 2018 Grand Final - Group Stage Day 1 - Page 9
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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sneakyfox
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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BerserkSword
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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jarodtou
167 Posts
We have probably arguably the top3 koreans(or top 3 at the time of the qualifier) and the best of the foreigners, Scarllet, Neeb, Serall and so on. So at least top8 should have some points at least, something like 1500 for 1st place, 700 for 2nd place and so on. Especially because the qualification process is really hard due to the big prize pool. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 11 2019 17:31 sneakyfox wrote: Truth hurts, but someone's got to say it. Brave statement, really I guess I shouldn't answer to this seriously; I would, nevertheless. It would be weird to call Serral a patchzerg as literally no other Zerg won a Premier tournament during his ascension; only Reynor reached the finals at Montreal. Moreover, Serral won HSC against a sea of Terran while every zerg was struggling in the patch. As for Serral's form, he wasn't flawless at IEM and has been ill last week; Neeb has probably the best PvZ if his opponent is not named Dark, seeing him defeat Serral is nothing out of ordinary. However, if he just won with early pushes I'm very worried(I couldn't watch the games, I was sleeping); if we exclude specific matchups, Serral's main weakness is in the midgame before remax as he is very hard to cheese and has extremely good lategame(ZvT may or may not be an exception). | ||
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sneakyfox
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 11 2019 18:34 jarodtou wrote: why no WCS points for WESG? I know the player list is not that high, but the top8/top4 is still the top4/ top8 from the world overall. We have probably arguably the top3 koreans(or top 3 at the time of the qualifier) and the best of the foreigners, Scarllet, Neeb, Serall and so on. So at least top8 should have some points at least, something like 1500 for 1st place, 700 for 2nd place and so on. Especially because the qualification process is really hard due to the big prize pool. Probably because WESG would have to care enough to comply with WCS rules and regulations, and they really don't. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
 GG Neeb! | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 11 2019 18:38 RaFox17 wrote: Showtime lost 2 PvP´s in a row. Really difficult for him to advance GG Neeb!Showtime often struggles vs Harstem, even on ladder when they are both streaming Im surprised he lost against neeb though | ||
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darklycid
3541 Posts
Hope He can regain His normal strength again. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On March 11 2019 18:42 Charoisaur wrote: not sure why people are surprised by Neeb beating Serral. Neeb is probably the most underrated player in the world currently. He plays extremely well since a while but nobody cares because everyone is busy hyping up Serral. Most people have probably already forgotten he made the GSL ro4... Nobody cares because he plays protoss | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On March 11 2019 18:42 Charoisaur wrote: not sure why people are surprised by Neeb beating Serral. Neeb is probably the most underrated player in the world currently. He plays extremely well since a while but nobody cares because everyone is busy hyping up Serral. Most people have probably already forgotten he made the GSL ro4... People are surprised because they put Serral above Koreans, and the Koreans are above Neeb. Because Serral beat Stats multiple times, Neeb didn't seem like he had much of a chance. However, I will say that Neeb's arguably had the best or second PvZ in the world for a while. Stats is better again Dark, but Neeb is very consistent against almost everyone else. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 11 2019 18:36 Xain0n wrote: I guess I shouldn't answer to this seriously; I would, nevertheless. It would be weird to call Serral a patchzerg as literally no other Zerg won a Premier tournament during his ascension; only Reynor reached the finals at Montreal. Technically speaking Rogue and Scarlett won IEM. While this was outside of Serrals road to glory it jsut shows how weak Zerg was. Rogue then reached Code S RO8 S2 and by many the Rogue v Maru was the best match of the play off(bad Zest finals included) Dark reached 2 finals - WESG, ST1 Both Dark & Solar got to RO4 ST2 and lost closely 3:2. On March 11 2019 18:36 Xain0n wrote: Moreover, Serral won HSC against a sea of Terran while every zerg was struggling in the patch. As for Serral's form, he wasn't flawless at IEM and has been ill last week; Neeb has probably the best PvZ if his opponent is not named Dark, seeing him defeat Serral is nothing out of ordinary. However, if he just won with early pushes I'm very worried(I couldn't watch the games, I was sleeping); if we exclude specific matchups, Serral's main weakness is in the midgame before remax as he is very hard to cheese and has extremely good lategame(ZvT may or may not be an exception). He won HSC against weak Terrans. At that time the best Terrans were Maru & TY, then small space, GumiHo and after these 3 huge space and Innovation. Innovation was the underdog in their HSC tournament based on his results from 2018. You can't seriously talk about his HSC and Terran results when Serral was in form while he played inferiour players. On March 11 2019 18:42 Charoisaur wrote: not sure why people are surprised by Neeb beating Serral. Neeb is probably the most underrated player in the world currently. He plays extremely well since a while but nobody cares because everyone is busy hyping up Serral. Most people have probably already forgotten he made the GSL ro4... I don't think he's as underrated as Classic was, is and will be. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
It's probably both. Foreigners and Protoss players are often underappreciated. the bias against protoss is sad | ||
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