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Poll: Maru vs Rogue Maru Wins (36) Rogue Wins (25) 61 total votes Your vote: Maru vs Rogue | ||
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Obamarauder
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Classic vs ByuN could be closer if ByuN's form in the ro16 was as good as people hyped it up to be. | ||
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FlatEdge
United States12 Posts
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Elentos
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On June 06 2018 05:08 FlatEdge wrote: I really think we'll be seeing a Rogue vs ByuN final I can guarantee you we won't. | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On June 06 2018 04:49 Fango wrote: Rogue has this in the bag. Classic vs ByuN could be closer if ByuN's form in the ro16 was as good as people hyped it up to be. I'm a Rogue fan, but I'm actually kinda worried about him. I don't see any Z beating Maru currently unless he proxies too much. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On June 06 2018 07:12 mierin wrote: I'm a Rogue fan, but I'm actually kinda worried about him. I don't see any Z beating Maru currently unless he proxies too much. Rogue is the kind of player who will realise if he can't beat someone in a macro game and then never play one. I think Maru is technically the better TvZ player than Rogue, but he won't be prepared for the allins and mindgames that are likely to occur. | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On June 06 2018 12:07 yangluphil wrote: This season's GSL will be over after the first bo5. Well, if Rogue wins he's looking unbeatable. Maru on the other hand can be defeated and by several others I'd say. In fact I think Classic and Gumiho hold the advantage over him should they meet. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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buffzerg33
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Azzur
Australia6255 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On June 06 2018 13:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Well, if Rogue wins he's looking unbeatable. Maru on the other hand can be defeated and by several others I'd say. In fact I think Classic and Gumiho hold the advantage over him should they meet. Classic won't beat Maru, not after marauder buff. Gumiho has a chance (probably not over 50%), but he won't be able to beat Zest in bo7. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
How does T fare nowadays? | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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sneakyfox
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On June 06 2018 16:59 Poopi wrote: Hopefully ByuN can beat Classic. How does T fare nowadays? Byun did manage to beat stats twice, def has a chance | ||
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phantomfive
Korea (South)404 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On June 06 2018 17:55 phantomfive wrote: Tasteless and Artosis just walked by wearing a suit jacket and shorts Even Lebron's doing it these days. | ||
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phantomfive
Korea (South)404 Posts
That's why he wins. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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djack0666
Belarus219 Posts
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
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Aunvilgodess
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
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sneakyfox
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The_Red_Viper
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ByuuN
Poland678 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Expecting this to go the distance | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
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ScrappyRabbit
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Caissa
United States48 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 06 2018 18:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Maru better not 3-0 this after hyping Rogue up as the best ZvT --; Expecting this to go the distance Well, he has the best ZvT. If he loses 3-0, then that's that. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 06 2018 18:56 Mozdk wrote: Classic has been the best protoss for a year. And somehow people almost never talk about him. He has to win something, in the past his pvz made that impossible | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Caissa
United States48 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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Mozdk
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Caissa
United States48 Posts
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Caissa
United States48 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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stilt
France2746 Posts
But against these sort of push I suppose hydras are not an options. | ||
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sneakyfox
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Caissa
United States48 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:11 sneakyfox wrote: Still no ravens Mass raven doesn't really work anymore | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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Caissa
United States48 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
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ByuuN
Poland678 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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terfand
Russian Federation119 Posts
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Majick
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Durnuu
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On June 06 2018 19:22 terfand wrote: Guys, sorry, I've never played sc2, could you please explain what does that raven thing do, when it puts enemy units 'on fire'? Is it some kind of damage over time? Lowers armor | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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Durnuu
13319 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Rogue has entered his final form: 2012 The ultimate patchzerg | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
Blizzard just can't get it right yet | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2429 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:27 The_Red_Viper wrote: Now zerg has the "unbeatable" deathball again Honestly though, i think more ghosts plus whatever else you need (vikings/liberators/tanks) is the way to go now, ravens seem not worth it at all. | ||
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stilt
France2746 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:27 Mun_Su wrote: Zerg disgusting late game is back, thanks blizzard i guess <3 1 zerg in 1/4 and proceed to whine, thabks munsu! | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:29 The_Red_Viper wrote: Honestly though, i think more ghosts plus whatever else you need (vikings/liberators/tanks) is the way to go now, ravens seem not worth it at all. While tanks may be good against spore crawler push, i don't think they'll do well when opponent has 16 BL | ||
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sneakyfox
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:32 Mun_Su wrote: While tanks may be good against spore crawler push, i don't think they'll do well when opponent has 16 BL Ofc you have to choose your composition based on what the zerg is doing exactly, you probably still need some tanks either way though | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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sneakyfox
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:35 sneakyfox wrote: So Rogue either plays great StarCraft and wins long games or just dies to the most simple pressures. Isn't Starcraft great? Can't beat an opponent at their game? Make them play yours. | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:36 Vindicare605 wrote: Isn't Starcraft great? Can't beat an opponent at their game? Make them play yours. Yeah but Rogue should definitely not just die to these things. it's poor play | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:34 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ofc you have to choose your composition based on what the zerg is doing exactly, you probably still need some tanks either way though Thinking again maybe keeping Low raven and mass ghost would work better (emp for queen and then snipe) on another hand, cool to see that bbq are still a thing in BBQ | ||
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Penev
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:39 Penev wrote: Phew, didn't miss too much. Were the games any good so far? Not really no, we got one lategame with ravens though but they are not viable anymore it seems like. | ||
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Penev
28453 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:42 The_Red_Viper wrote: Not really no, we got one lategame with ravens though but they are not viable anymore it seems like. tnx Maru lost that one then I presume | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:42 The_Red_Viper wrote: Not really no, we got one lategame with ravens though but they are not viable anymore it seems like. oh come on now, get out with that. That game was beautiful in the early and midgame way before we got to the late game and even then it was still awesome to watch. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote: oh come on now, get out with that. That game was beautiful in the early and midgame way before we got to the late game and even then it was still awesome to watch. Sure it wasn't bad but it wasn't great either | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
Edit: There we go. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:46 The_Red_Viper wrote: Sure it wasn't bad but it wasn't great either Sure. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I mean let's be honest here, backwater is just a terrible map | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series ! | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:52 MarianoSC2 wrote: I love how Rogues ZvT transformed over the year. At the start, and in Katowice, he was only beating Terran with cheesy play, all-ins and tricks. That is how he beat Maru in Katowice. And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series ! Thing is the same is true for Maru as well. When Maru first came on the scene his bio control was just about all he was. He's somehow morphed into this all around great Terran that can play any style in any match up. He's grown so much. | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:52 MarianoSC2 wrote: I love how Rogues ZvT transformed over the year. At the start, and in Katowice, he was only beating Terran with cheesy play, all-ins and tricks. That is how he beat Maru in Katowice. And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series ! Because of the balance patch. Back then it was a better choice to do late "all-ins" in ZvT but now the late game gives you more chances to win now that terrans need to figure out a way without super strong ravens But it's nice to see that he adapts so fast indeed. Clearly not a patchzerg no matter what was said somewhere here  | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:59 Poopi wrote: Because of the balance patch. Back then it was a better choice to do late "all-ins" in ZvT but now the late game gives you more chances to win now that terrans need to figure out a way without super strong ravens But it's nice to see that he adapts so fast indeed. Clearly not a patchzerg no matter what was said somewhere here I think Rogue is definitely a patchzerg = Insanely good through all the patches   | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:51 The_Red_Viper wrote: I mean let's be honest here, backwater is just a terrible map Speaking of maps. | ||
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Penev
28453 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Insane plays. I mean Maru can still cheese him out in the last map, but I hope Rogue takes it becuse Maru will just get bopped by Classic in the semis | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:15 DieuCure wrote: Flash is watching you Maru you shoud win Flash is like: "and soO said that guy is like me, rofl" | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:14 ilikeredheads wrote: lol that map I agree! That ledge on the main so easily abused by terran. Rogue is such a hero for surviving that bs. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:14 neutralrobot wrote: Well, as expected, it goes to game 5. The normal Maru thing to do would be to proxy here, but I think he probably won't. Maru cant proxy rax against Rogue. They play each other too much and Rogue can just easily scout and hold that. He even held it against Inno where he did not really expect it. Aggressive Tank pushes seem to work for Maru, I expect another one here. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:15 DieuCure wrote: Flash is watching you Maru you must win Flash watches GSL? | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
He is streaming it with the score in the title etc | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:19 DieuCure wrote: He is streaming it with the score in the title etc Oh shit you're right. Glad to know he's still somewhat interested in SC2. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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Penev
28453 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
TM | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
sad but expected. Still, this gives a more competitive season imo | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:22 Phredxor wrote: You just got Marine'd. Marine Prince'd. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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ByuuN
Poland678 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
TY vs Maru finals please | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2018 19:56 Vindicare605 wrote: Thing is the same is true for Maru as well. When Maru first came on the scene his bio control was just about all he was. He's somehow morphed into this all around great Terran that can play any style in any match up. He's grown so much. And yet the games he won were quintessential Maru. This looks precisely like 2016, 2017, whenever. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:23 HolydaKing wrote: haha flash looks disappointed/sad that maru won, for some reason. Maru is definitely not channeling the Spirit of Flash | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:24 MarianoSC2 wrote: Oh well, that last tank shot on the banes won Maru the series... A bit sad tbh, Rogue is the better player overall. Maru stands no chance against Classic. While I would bet for Rogue to win GSL if he advanced :/ Damn Not really, they were running into his marines anyway he could have saved one more maybe but this game wasnt about A bane | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:23 HolydaKing wrote: haha flash looks disappointed/sad that maru won, for some reason. Maybe because the game was disappointing | ||
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Caelum93
62 Posts
I would love it to see it but the reality is tlpd#players#951#T#hots]ByuN[/tlpd] 1-3  Classic unfortunatly | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
Against the best PvT player in the world? Not a chance IMO. | ||
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Caelum93
62 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:27 Caelum93 wrote: I would love it to see it but the reality is  ByuN 1-3 Classic unfortunatly | ||
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Penev
28453 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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StabiloBoss20
313 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:23 Pursuit_ wrote: Really kinda disappointing for Rogue, he just didn't macro properly at the end. Floating 1200/700, if he just had units he'd have been fine thats wasnt a macro mistake. if you drone that heavily, you dont have enough lava to spend the money at this point of the game. you have to put it into tech. but that was not what he needed. and under constant pressure he hadnt the time to morph bane... thats where the money is supposed to go at this point. he was just a little to greedy. cant see ByuN wins this | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
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dummy1
420 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:38 dummy1 wrote: Right now I m feeling ambivalence. I'm happy but also is sad. Maru won. Nice. Rogue not. Not nice. SC2 is so cruel game. Playing with feelings. There have been way too many JinAir teamkills in recent Ro8s. It always feels bittersweet. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
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Penev
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Penev
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Carminedust
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sneakyfox
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Penev
28453 Posts
On June 06 2018 20:58 Carminedust wrote: Maru is still winning this mus mean terran needs nerfed harder clearly the raven still OP must redo the raven and redesign it we switched to whining about marines | ||
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Carminedust
487 Posts
clearly SCV ability to gather minerals is OP must nerf so they can only gather Gas and not minerals | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Durnuu
13319 Posts
On June 06 2018 21:02 Carminedust wrote: clearly SCV ability to gather minerals is OP must nerf so they can only gather Gas and not minerals Mules are enough anyway | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
ByuN rip | ||
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Penev
28453 Posts
On June 06 2018 21:03 sneakyfox wrote: Imagine how this game would have looked if Classic didn't make all those small mistakes. ByuN rip 3-0 it is | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Penev
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Idd | ||
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Australia1025 Posts
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yht9657
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On June 06 2018 21:11 ilikeredheads wrote: why cheese against protoss when they can just build an oracle and harass your workers?? If not for those proxies ByuN couldn't even make past RO16. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
e: ok this is a bit different | ||
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Carminedust
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yht9657
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On June 06 2018 21:29 Inflicted wrote: well this was a sick comeback by Classic Not sure he was ever behind in this game. | ||
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Obamarauder
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On June 06 2018 21:34 Kommander wrote: Classic almost never goes robo tech in PvT except for a few immortals and warp prisms, makes it more fun to watch IMO. if u think ur the better player u should never go robo. the amount of shit u can do with oracle and blink allows you to control the game as demonstrated by the series. robo is so hots style honestly | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
Still happy for the ro8 Maru going through is cool as well No zerg anymore tho :s | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On June 06 2018 21:47 Zephyp wrote: Maru vs Rogue was a fun match. Classic vs Byun was boring and a bop. I'm mostly sad we got no zerg left. Still haven't had a zerg GSL champion since Life in S1 2015. It's not like the most 2nd places took soO who's ... uh... isn't he zerg? Sure, it sucks to not have the champion, but having such a godlike player(at least at that time) isn't something I woul treat lightly. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2018 23:38 iamho wrote: 60k viewers!! Where? Wasn't there only 10k on Twitch? | ||
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Tyrhanius
France947 Posts
That's funny because there was only 1 terran who lost 2-3 vs Life on RO8, and this Terran was Maru. But at the end, Zest won the GSL. It might happen aswell ^^ | ||
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ShadowReaver
Canada563 Posts
Looking forward to see Classic vs Maru in a bo7. Feel really bad for Rogue, he showed really impressive ZvT late game. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 07 2018 04:44 mierin wrote: Has a Korean ended a game in GSL with anything other than your standard GG, g, ww, or *whatever korean symbols*? That "gg..." seemed a bit weird and BM (coming from a Rogue fanboy). I could be totally wrong though. As long as you don't write IMBA IMBA IMBA you should be fine tbh | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States671 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On June 07 2018 05:24 The_Red_Viper wrote: As long as you don't write IMBA IMBA IMBA you should be fine tbh He said gg after that though | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On June 07 2018 05:24 The_Red_Viper wrote: As long as you don't write IMBA IMBA IMBA you should be fine tbh I was so deep in feels with Ryung that time. Also mierin while I dislike Rogue I don't think he was bm. I think he was upset with himself because of how he lost to early push | ||
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usopsama
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On June 07 2018 08:47 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? None of the Byun/Classic games, and games 2 & 4 from Maru/Rogue. I am a fanboy for a certain race however, so might not want to take those recommendations as gospel. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On June 07 2018 10:05 mierin wrote: None of the Byun/Classic games, and games 2 & 4 from Maru/Rogue. I am a fanboy for a certain race however, so might not want to take those recommendations as gospel. I'd throw in game 3 from Maru/Rogue also. | ||
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