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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 09 2017 19:09 GMT
#541
On November 10 2017 04:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:05 Olli wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:04 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:00 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:56 intotheheart wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

Never been there. I'm Canadian.

WTF


Gotta live up to the name of Ziggurat Of Ur you know.

Fair enough, but this is easily one of the top 8 anime plot twists of all time.


I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in an LR before... But it does come up once in a while--even had a guy PM me as the 'only other Assyrian' on this site.

also

10k coming up


I haven't prepared anything. Shellshock's 100k will be just as underwhelming as this.

I bet his 100k will be

"lol"


I hope he dedicates it to Enel in the One Piece thread. He's a key contributor there.

I.. just learned about a new TL thing

So you're probably our next 50k poster...
kiss kiss fall in love
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2017 19:09 GMT
#542
On November 10 2017 04:06 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 03:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Ah damn, MMA ruined the pathetic winrate of foreigners against koreans in bo5s.
Jk awesome that he looked competitive.


You only chose the metric of offline Bo5 because it artificially deflates the winrate of the foreigners due to all the games with lower level foreigners (as if it needs any deflating). Statistically speaking the difference between a Bo3 and a Bo5 is just something like 5%.


From a pure win% standpoint, I can see how the difference between bo3 and bo5 is minimal. But when it comes to actual players there seems to be a big difference. It's much easier to catch someone of guard with 2 allins than 3. And generally players will have more time to adapt to their opponent, and in many cases take the match more seriously


The preparation is the bigger bit imo, since Bo5 are usually big tournament games. But if you look a things like TING groups or HSC I don't think the results look too different from if they were Bo3s.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
November 09 2017 19:11 GMT
#543
On November 10 2017 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:06 Fango wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Ah damn, MMA ruined the pathetic winrate of foreigners against koreans in bo5s.
Jk awesome that he looked competitive.


You only chose the metric of offline Bo5 because it artificially deflates the winrate of the foreigners due to all the games with lower level foreigners (as if it needs any deflating). Statistically speaking the difference between a Bo3 and a Bo5 is just something like 5%.


From a pure win% standpoint, I can see how the difference between bo3 and bo5 is minimal. But when it comes to actual players there seems to be a big difference. It's much easier to catch someone of guard with 2 allins than 3. And generally players will have more time to adapt to their opponent, and in many cases take the match more seriously


The preparation is the bigger bit imo, since Bo5 are usually big tournament games. But if you look a things like TING groups or HSC I don't think the results look too different from if they were Bo3s.

Foreigners have no problems winning bo3's as shown at Blizzcon and IEM Katowice
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 09 2017 19:11 GMT
#544
On November 10 2017 04:09 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:07 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:05 Olli wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:04 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:00 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:56 intotheheart wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
[quote]
WTF


Gotta live up to the name of Ziggurat Of Ur you know.

Fair enough, but this is easily one of the top 8 anime plot twists of all time.


I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in an LR before... But it does come up once in a while--even had a guy PM me as the 'only other Assyrian' on this site.

also

10k coming up


I haven't prepared anything. Shellshock's 100k will be just as underwhelming as this.

I bet his 100k will be

"lol"


I hope he dedicates it to Enel in the One Piece thread. He's a key contributor there.

I.. just learned about a new TL thing

So you're probably our next 50k poster...

this changes everything indeed
I Protoss winner, could it be?
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 09 2017 19:12 GMT
#545
On November 10 2017 04:11 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:09 intotheheart wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:07 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:05 Olli wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:04 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:00 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:56 intotheheart wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

Gotta live up to the name of Ziggurat Of Ur you know.

Fair enough, but this is easily one of the top 8 anime plot twists of all time.


I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in an LR before... But it does come up once in a while--even had a guy PM me as the 'only other Assyrian' on this site.

also

10k coming up


I haven't prepared anything. Shellshock's 100k will be just as underwhelming as this.

I bet his 100k will be

"lol"


I hope he dedicates it to Enel in the One Piece thread. He's a key contributor there.

I.. just learned about a new TL thing

So you're probably our next 50k poster...

this changes everything indeed

I find that thread is a bit slow to be honest, which is probably why I also don't have 50k posts yet.
kiss kiss fall in love
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 09 2017 19:13 GMT
#546
On November 10 2017 03:57 Ej_ wrote:
Poll: More shocking plot twist?

ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada (15)
 
100%

Vader is Luke's father. (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: More shocking plot twist?

(Vote): ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada
(Vote): Vader is Luke's father.


Can you make a poll about me, too?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 09 2017 19:13 GMT
#547
On November 10 2017 04:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:05 Olli wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:04 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:00 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:56 intotheheart wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

Never been there. I'm Canadian.

WTF


Gotta live up to the name of Ziggurat Of Ur you know.

Fair enough, but this is easily one of the top 8 anime plot twists of all time.


I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in an LR before... But it does come up once in a while--even had a guy PM me as the 'only other Assyrian' on this site.

also

10k coming up


I haven't prepared anything. Shellshock's 100k will be just as underwhelming as this.

I bet his 100k will be

"lol"


I hope he dedicates it to Enel in the One Piece thread. He's a key contributor there.

I.. just learned about a new TL thing


You've missed years of amazing discussions such as "Is the author wrong about his own work?", "Is ice a state of matter?", and of course the everlasting question of whether or not Enel is the greatest existence in the One Piece universe.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 09 2017 19:13 GMT
#548
On November 10 2017 04:13 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 03:57 Ej_ wrote:
Poll: More shocking plot twist?

ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada (15)
 
100%

Vader is Luke's father. (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: More shocking plot twist?

(Vote): ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada
(Vote): Vader is Luke's father.


Can you make a poll about me, too?

We already know roughly where you're from, even though the name of the island's escaping me now.
kiss kiss fall in love
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 09 2017 19:14 GMT
#549
On November 10 2017 04:13 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:07 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:05 Olli wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:04 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:00 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:56 intotheheart wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
[quote]
WTF


Gotta live up to the name of Ziggurat Of Ur you know.

Fair enough, but this is easily one of the top 8 anime plot twists of all time.


I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in an LR before... But it does come up once in a while--even had a guy PM me as the 'only other Assyrian' on this site.

also

10k coming up


I haven't prepared anything. Shellshock's 100k will be just as underwhelming as this.

I bet his 100k will be

"lol"


I hope he dedicates it to Enel in the One Piece thread. He's a key contributor there.

I.. just learned about a new TL thing


You've missed years of amazing discussions such as "Is the author wrong about his own work?", "Is ice a state of matter?", and of course the everlasting question of whether or not Enel is the greatest existence in the One Piece universe.

Was Crocodile awakened?!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
November 09 2017 19:14 GMT
#550
On November 10 2017 04:13 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 03:57 Ej_ wrote:
Poll: More shocking plot twist?

ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada (15)
 
100%

Vader is Luke's father. (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: More shocking plot twist?

(Vote): ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada
(Vote): Vader is Luke's father.


Can you make a poll about me, too?

Poll: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

Yes (11)
 
69%

No (5)
 
31%

16 total votes

Your vote: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 19:14:46
November 09 2017 19:14 GMT
#551
On November 10 2017 04:14 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:13 usopsama wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:57 Ej_ wrote:
Poll: More shocking plot twist?

ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada (15)
 
100%

Vader is Luke's father. (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: More shocking plot twist?

(Vote): ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada
(Vote): Vader is Luke's father.


Can you make a poll about me, too?

Poll: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

Yes (11)
 
69%

No (5)
 
31%

16 total votes

Your vote: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 09 2017 19:14 GMT
#552
On November 10 2017 04:14 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:13 Olli wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:07 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:05 Olli wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:04 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:00 Penev wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:56 intotheheart wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

Gotta live up to the name of Ziggurat Of Ur you know.

Fair enough, but this is easily one of the top 8 anime plot twists of all time.


I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in an LR before... But it does come up once in a while--even had a guy PM me as the 'only other Assyrian' on this site.

also

10k coming up


I haven't prepared anything. Shellshock's 100k will be just as underwhelming as this.

I bet his 100k will be

"lol"


I hope he dedicates it to Enel in the One Piece thread. He's a key contributor there.

I.. just learned about a new TL thing


You've missed years of amazing discussions such as "Is the author wrong about his own work?", "Is ice a state of matter?", and of course the everlasting question of whether or not Enel is the greatest existence in the One Piece universe.

Was Crocodile awakened?!


I dunno, but I do know that he's Luffy's mother
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2017 19:15 GMT
#553
On November 10 2017 04:11 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:06 Fango wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Ah damn, MMA ruined the pathetic winrate of foreigners against koreans in bo5s.
Jk awesome that he looked competitive.


You only chose the metric of offline Bo5 because it artificially deflates the winrate of the foreigners due to all the games with lower level foreigners (as if it needs any deflating). Statistically speaking the difference between a Bo3 and a Bo5 is just something like 5%.


From a pure win% standpoint, I can see how the difference between bo3 and bo5 is minimal. But when it comes to actual players there seems to be a big difference. It's much easier to catch someone of guard with 2 allins than 3. And generally players will have more time to adapt to their opponent, and in many cases take the match more seriously


The preparation is the bigger bit imo, since Bo5 are usually big tournament games. But if you look a things like TING groups or HSC I don't think the results look too different from if they were Bo3s.

Foreigners have no problems winning bo3's as shown at Blizzcon and IEM Katowice


You're comparing only a few dozen series though--I don't think you can draw meaningful conclusions from that.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
November 09 2017 19:15 GMT
#554
On November 10 2017 03:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 03:50 geokilla wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What happened in jjakji vs Drogo?

You live in Iraq?


Never been there. I'm Canadian.

Since when did Canadians pretend to be someone of a different nationality. Unless you're Iraqi.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
November 09 2017 19:15 GMT
#555
On November 10 2017 04:14 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:13 usopsama wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:57 Ej_ wrote:
Poll: More shocking plot twist?

ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada (15)
 
100%

Vader is Luke's father. (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: More shocking plot twist?

(Vote): ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada
(Vote): Vader is Luke's father.


Can you make a poll about me, too?

Poll: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

Yes (11)
 
69%

No (5)
 
31%

16 total votes

Your vote: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Yeah ban him, can't stand this foreigner hating!
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
November 09 2017 19:17 GMT
#556
On November 10 2017 04:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:11 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:06 Fango wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Ah damn, MMA ruined the pathetic winrate of foreigners against koreans in bo5s.
Jk awesome that he looked competitive.


You only chose the metric of offline Bo5 because it artificially deflates the winrate of the foreigners due to all the games with lower level foreigners (as if it needs any deflating). Statistically speaking the difference between a Bo3 and a Bo5 is just something like 5%.


From a pure win% standpoint, I can see how the difference between bo3 and bo5 is minimal. But when it comes to actual players there seems to be a big difference. It's much easier to catch someone of guard with 2 allins than 3. And generally players will have more time to adapt to their opponent, and in many cases take the match more seriously


The preparation is the bigger bit imo, since Bo5 are usually big tournament games. But if you look a things like TING groups or HSC I don't think the results look too different from if they were Bo3s.

Foreigners have no problems winning bo3's as shown at Blizzcon and IEM Katowice


You're comparing only a few dozen series though--I don't think you can draw meaningful conclusions from that.

Well this Blizzcon they have taken more bo3s than they have taken bo5s the entire year
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2017 19:18 GMT
#557
On November 10 2017 04:15 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 03:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:50 geokilla wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What happened in jjakji vs Drogo?

You live in Iraq?


Never been there. I'm Canadian.

Since when did Canadians pretend to be someone of a different nationality. Unless you're Iraqi.


Canadians have lots of experience with fake identities in the Middle East. Haven't you seen the movie Argo?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 09 2017 19:19 GMT
#558
On November 10 2017 04:14 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:14 Durnuu wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:13 usopsama wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:57 Ej_ wrote:
Poll: More shocking plot twist?

ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada (15)
 
100%

Vader is Luke's father. (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: More shocking plot twist?

(Vote): ZigguratOfUr lives in Canada
(Vote): Vader is Luke's father.


Can you make a poll about me, too?

Poll: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

Yes (11)
 
69%

No (5)
 
31%

16 total votes

Your vote: Should we ban usopsama for constant foreigner bashing/negativity ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



I voted yes
I Protoss winner, could it be?
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
November 09 2017 19:19 GMT
#559
On November 10 2017 04:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:15 geokilla wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:50 geokilla wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What happened in jjakji vs Drogo?

You live in Iraq?


Never been there. I'm Canadian.

Since when did Canadians pretend to be someone of a different nationality. Unless you're Iraqi.


Canadians have lots of experience with fake identities in the Middle East. Haven't you seen the movie Argo?

I guess I'm not a true Canadian then
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 09 2017 19:20 GMT
#560
On November 10 2017 04:17 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:11 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 04:06 Fango wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 10 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Ah damn, MMA ruined the pathetic winrate of foreigners against koreans in bo5s.
Jk awesome that he looked competitive.


You only chose the metric of offline Bo5 because it artificially deflates the winrate of the foreigners due to all the games with lower level foreigners (as if it needs any deflating). Statistically speaking the difference between a Bo3 and a Bo5 is just something like 5%.


From a pure win% standpoint, I can see how the difference between bo3 and bo5 is minimal. But when it comes to actual players there seems to be a big difference. It's much easier to catch someone of guard with 2 allins than 3. And generally players will have more time to adapt to their opponent, and in many cases take the match more seriously


The preparation is the bigger bit imo, since Bo5 are usually big tournament games. But if you look a things like TING groups or HSC I don't think the results look too different from if they were Bo3s.

Foreigners have no problems winning bo3's as shown at Blizzcon and IEM Katowice


You're comparing only a few dozen series though--I don't think you can draw meaningful conclusions from that.

Well this Blizzcon they have taken more bo3s than they have taken bo5s the entire year


They also played about as many bo3s as bo5s were played all year.
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