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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12875 Posts
September 24 2017 10:02 GMT
#281
On September 24 2017 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 18:54 Poopi wrote:
Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed...
About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL?
It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals.

In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well.

Gratz Stats.


Dark and Solar both won SSL last year.

So why did someone say not so long ago that zergs didn't win a starleague since HotS?
Or maybe they meant GSL but then that's quite a fallacious balance whine.
WriterMaru
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 10:18:48
September 24 2017 10:18 GMT
#282
On September 24 2017 19:02 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
On September 24 2017 18:54 Poopi wrote:
Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed...
About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL?
It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals.

In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well.

Gratz Stats.


Dark and Solar both won SSL last year.

So why did someone say not so long ago that zergs didn't win a starleague since HotS?
Or maybe they meant GSL but then that's quite a fallacious balance whine.


People like to complain when their race loses.

I'd think you would know that
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12875 Posts
September 24 2017 10:48 GMT
#283
On September 24 2017 19:18 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 19:02 Poopi wrote:
On September 24 2017 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
On September 24 2017 18:54 Poopi wrote:
Crap I liquidbetted Dark so I'm screwed...
About Zerg players and finals, didn't Dark win SSL?
It's just that soO is trash in GSL finals so zergs don't win finals.

In foreign scene, even Elazer won something iirc so zerg is fine. Rogue as well.

Gratz Stats.


Dark and Solar both won SSL last year.

So why did someone say not so long ago that zergs didn't win a starleague since HotS?
Or maybe they meant GSL but then that's quite a fallacious balance whine.


People like to complain when their race loses.

I'd think you would know that

Well terran is the hardest race mechanically so it's sad to see top terrans lose ^^
WriterMaru
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 24 2017 12:05 GMT
#284
not much of a fan of pvz these days but okay finals. can't wait til some gameplay changes come along.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
September 24 2017 12:12 GMT
#285
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
September 24 2017 14:02 GMT
#286
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?

I watched the first game live and it was great. Gonna watch the rest on VOD now.
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
September 24 2017 14:50 GMT
#287
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?


Entertaining yes, very fun build variety.

Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 24 2017 15:39 GMT
#288
Poor Dark, he always seems to lose finals when toss or terran are looking OP
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
buffzerg33
Profile Joined May 2017
96 Posts
September 24 2017 17:02 GMT
#289
Vods are not free? WTF
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
September 24 2017 17:09 GMT
#290
On September 25 2017 02:02 buffzerg33 wrote:
Vods are not free? WTF

I watched the VOD on youtube just a few hours ago, so I would say that they are
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 18:13:56
September 24 2017 18:12 GMT
#291
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?

a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
September 24 2017 18:45 GMT
#292
On September 25 2017 03:12 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?

a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark


wouldn't say they were flops more like with adepts it's pretty hard not to get scouted and yes dark tried cheesy builds but in a best of 7 you have to mix it up. it's just near impossible to pull of a cheese in zvp whereas the other way around there's so many builds that can kill zerg
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
September 24 2017 20:38 GMT
#293
On September 25 2017 03:45 asongdotnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2017 03:12 brickrd wrote:
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?

a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark


wouldn't say they were flops more like with adepts it's pretty hard not to get scouted and yes dark tried cheesy builds but in a best of 7 you have to mix it up. it's just near impossible to pull of a cheese in zvp whereas the other way around there's so many builds that can kill zerg

Well, in game 1 Dark just blundered the cheese. He dropped lings in the main where there were zero pylons and instead of just killing the main he went to the natural and fought vs pylons.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 24 2017 21:02 GMT
#294
On September 25 2017 05:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2017 03:45 asongdotnet wrote:
On September 25 2017 03:12 brickrd wrote:
On September 24 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Was this finals entertaining or a good show of pvz?

a couple of games were really disappointing flops by dark where he just kind of blundered into a loss. however most of the games were good. game 7 was very well played although i wasn't happy with the result. game 1 was really fantastic lategame play, vintage dark


wouldn't say they were flops more like with adepts it's pretty hard not to get scouted and yes dark tried cheesy builds but in a best of 7 you have to mix it up. it's just near impossible to pull of a cheese in zvp whereas the other way around there's so many builds that can kill zerg

Well, in game 1 Dark just blundered the cheese. He dropped lings in the main where there were zero pylons and instead of just killing the main he went to the natural and fought vs pylons.
also on WW he just made SH, walked them into stats' army and died while trying to run away. that's a flop to me
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
September 25 2017 00:30 GMT
#295
On September 25 2017 02:09 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2017 02:02 buffzerg33 wrote:
Vods are not free? WTF

I watched the VOD on youtube just a few hours ago, so I would say that they are

How'd you watch it? I thought I could watch it on YouTube as well but it still hasn't been uploaded yet
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
September 25 2017 01:33 GMT
#296
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Bh8GeuDVfjMRet_KAwA0A/videos

brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 25 2017 01:35 GMT
#297
On September 25 2017 09:30 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2017 02:09 Sakat wrote:
On September 25 2017 02:02 buffzerg33 wrote:
Vods are not free? WTF

I watched the VOD on youtube just a few hours ago, so I would say that they are

How'd you watch it? I thought I could watch it on YouTube as well but it still hasn't been uploaded yet

were you looking at esportstv or esportstv_global? i still get confused sometimes because eng and korean vods used to be on same channel.
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