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On August 13 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:
Well I'm not sure there's any player in Shoutcraft on Squirtle's level but this was certainly a mismatch.
Maybe not after Zest got eliminated.
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Weak era players like squirtle just can't cut it in today's strongest era
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On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring.
It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.
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On August 13 2017 22:43 Shellshock wrote:
Weak era players like squirtle just can't cut it in today's strongest era
Weak era vs. peak era.
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On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.
So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.
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On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.
And it upsets a writer out of all people?
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On August 13 2017 22:44 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:43 Shellshock wrote:
Weak era players like squirtle just can't cut it in today's strongest era Weak era vs. peak era.
I like it. Olli just mad cause blink all inners are no good anymore
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On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now.
Almost every narrative pushed in eSports is fake and stupid to be fair.
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Squirtle was a free win for whoever played against him tbh
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On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them.
logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive.
So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.
that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though.
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On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them. logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive. So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing. that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though.
Logically it makes sense that the skill level increases over time.
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On August 13 2017 22:50 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them. logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive. So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing. that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though. Logically it makes sense that the skill level increases over time.
I don't see why it would.
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On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them. logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive. So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing.
Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher
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On August 13 2017 22:50 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them. logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive. So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing. that doesn't mean that the top players back then can never be topped though. Logically it makes sense that the skill level increases over time.
No, this is only true if the level of competition remains the same or increases.
However in SC2 that is probably the case, so it's fine.
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On August 13 2017 22:51 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them. logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive. So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing. Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher
people don't get better the longer they play. as you get older your reaction time decreases and your hands won't move as fast anymore.
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On August 13 2017 22:52 Durnuu wrote:
I expect mech from Ryung
He better go mech on mech depot too 
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On August 13 2017 22:51 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them. logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive. So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing. Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher
Or they break their wrists, necks, backs, and eventually can't play to the level they used to play. MVP at top form would, I believe, still beat any player playing today.
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This indeed looks like a mech build.
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On August 13 2017 22:53 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2017 22:51 Fango wrote:On August 13 2017 22:48 Charoisaur wrote:On August 13 2017 22:46 Boggyb wrote:On August 13 2017 22:43 Olli wrote:On August 13 2017 22:37 Ansibled wrote:On August 13 2017 22:35 Olli wrote:
Ah yes, here we go again with the "best StarCraft II of all time!!" nonsense. Can't we just agree that people are playing well and not simultaneously put down everything everyone did before? I don't know but we can certainly take offense to innocuous comments for no real reason. Seriously this argument is tired and boring. It's a stupid narrative that's been pushed for no real reason for over a year now. So has the opposite narrative: The previous era was obviously the best so no player could ever top them. logically it makes the most sense that the skill-level is the highest when the scene is the most competitive. So in 2013-15 as the amount of koreans playing back then was far higher and proleague was a thing. Yeah but players get better the longer they play. People say WoL was the most competitive, but the skill level of HoTS was clearly higher people don't get better the longer they play. as you get older your reaction time decreases and your hands won't move as fast anymore.
At a certain point yes (if you're getting closer to 30 maybe). But for the most part your skill increases with hours played.
Look at Inno, TY, Stats, ByuN etc. These guys took 5-10 years of professional play before they reached the top
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