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On July 20 2017 06:17 Azhrak wrote:MaNa is way more experienced, I would definitely put him above BlueCheese. There are some other interesting seedings within the groups as well: Group A: uThermal > ShoWTimE > Namshar > Elorye
Group F: Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus
Pretty sure group F has Socke as the lowest Seed, not Optimus.
http://homestorycup.com/bracket
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I found that really odd considering MaNa's performance at Corsair Cup recently, defeating aLive and Penguin on his way to winning the event. Bluecheese seems like an up and coming player, aligulac shows he holds a 1-0 record vs MaNa in competitive play so I guess that got him the seed 
MaNa ranked 61 in world vs 94 for Bluecheese on aligulac, so that combined with recent performance I can't fault MaNa for asking Naruto, who seemed a little upset his seeding was questioned.
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On July 20 2017 06:24 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 06:17 Azhrak wrote:MaNa is way more experienced, I would definitely put him above BlueCheese. There are some other interesting seedings within the groups as well: Group A: uThermal > ShoWTimE > Namshar > Elorye
Group F: Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus Pretty sure group F has Socke as the lowest Seed, not Optimus. http://homestorycup.com/bracket
Check out the match-ups, it's Elazer vs Optimus and Bly vs Socke.
So it's either Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus OR Bly > Elazer > Optimus > Socke.
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On July 20 2017 06:35 Azhrak wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 06:24 Musicus wrote:On July 20 2017 06:17 Azhrak wrote:MaNa is way more experienced, I would definitely put him above BlueCheese. There are some other interesting seedings within the groups as well: Group A: uThermal > ShoWTimE > Namshar > Elorye
Group F: Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus Pretty sure group F has Socke as the lowest Seed, not Optimus. http://homestorycup.com/bracket Check out the match-ups, it's Elazer vs Optimus and Bly vs Socke. So it's either Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus OR Bly > Elazer > Optimus > Socke.
Okay that's weird.
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Some tough groups could be explained with TakeTV wanting certain players as casters as soon as possible. 
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On July 20 2017 06:49 Azhrak wrote:Some tough groups could be explained with TakeTV wanting certain players as casters as soon as possible.
Wel harder and easier groups happen, because not all the players arrive at the same time, so they have to shift some players around. But Socke not being the lowest seed in his group is indeed interesting.
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the worst player in Group F has the highest seed.
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On July 20 2017 06:25 Ctone23 wrote:I found that really odd considering MaNa's performance at Corsair Cup recently, defeating aLive and Penguin on his way to winning the event. Bluecheese seems like an up and coming player, aligulac shows he holds a 1-0 record vs MaNa in competitive play so I guess that got him the seed MaNa ranked 61 in world vs 94 for Bluecheese on aligulac, so that combined with recent performance I can't fault MaNa for asking Naruto, who seemed a little upset his seeding was questioned.
Well he IS the only player on a well respected team that was not for fun at WCS Valencia and STILL didn't get out of the first group stage...
That said though I really like MaNa and hope he will have a good run.
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France13018 Posts
Oh fuck yeah HSC is back!
Will try to watch as much as I can
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United States97277 Posts
I'm only disappointed that we have to wait an extra day to see Demuslim beat Zest
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Go Go Probe!!!!
I'm your biggest fan now
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I m so excited for this Such a cool player setup!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On July 20 2017 12:20 Shellshock wrote:
I'm only disappointed that we have to wait an extra day to see Demuslim beat Zest
Poor Benjy, first tournament in ages, really been practicing hard on ladder and streaming trying to get to HSC. Gets a very hard group first up 
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On July 20 2017 06:35 Azhrak wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 06:24 Musicus wrote:On July 20 2017 06:17 Azhrak wrote:MaNa is way more experienced, I would definitely put him above BlueCheese. There are some other interesting seedings within the groups as well: Group A: uThermal > ShoWTimE > Namshar > Elorye
Group F: Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus Pretty sure group F has Socke as the lowest Seed, not Optimus. http://homestorycup.com/bracket Check out the match-ups, it's Elazer vs Optimus and Bly vs Socke. So it's either Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus OR Bly > Elazer > Optimus > Socke.
That is wrong on Liquipedias part.
Elazer > Optimus > Bly > Socke
Elazer vs Socke
Optimus vs Bly
Edit: Sorry currently on TaKeTV acount - NarutO here.
I am not UPSET that MaNa questioned the seeding. I was pretty certain he would not be happy with the seeding and/or question it but I assumed he would do it in for me the proper manner. He has me in skype, he can simply ask there. He could even ask in person if he wanted to.
For me going public with asking it and obviously sounding upset about it felt a bit strange considering it might also bluecheese reading it. I dont think its super respectful to do. MaNa is more experienced, more accomplished but his current form and performance is not the elephant in the room. I think I am doing a good job at seeding overall since a lot of HSCs and while there are some seeds that you could argue about my reasoning usually is
1 > 4
2 can beat 3 and the other way around.
1 > 3
2 > 4
I believe Serral is probably not losing to anyone in this group. I think MaNa has worse chances in PvP against Probe than actually BlueCheesE in TvP. The straight up MaNa vs BlueCheese might even be in a very slight favor of MaNa depending on how good he plays but I don't think that seeding is completely unreasonable.
Bluecheese has only played MaNa once in Go4 and beaten him - that is bo1 and that did not make me decide to put him before MaNa but overall his gameplay against what I saw from MaNa. If we compare that to the MaNa I know from the past - being on form he is a #2 seed in that group without me thinking even though Probe recently had a good showing but personally for me I would have simply prefered him asking me on skype and/or just playing and showing he is better.
If we get that match up and he sweeps him 3-1 or 3-0 I was clearly wrong but I still dont think I seemingly would need to so harshly justify my seeding :/
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On July 20 2017 16:57 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 12:20 Shellshock wrote:
I'm only disappointed that we have to wait an extra day to see Demuslim beat Zest Poor Benjy, first tournament in ages, really been practicing hard on ladder and streaming trying to get to HSC. Gets a very hard group first up
Well it could be a lot worse. Zest are in a slump right now so we have no idea how good he will play (even if he should get through the group). TLO and Stephano are good but not the absolute top.
I think he can make it through on a good day.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
True, Zest did look good on his stream recently though especially vs Zerg where he seems to favor long air toss comps. Hoping you are right though, come on Benjy!
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On July 20 2017 17:06 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 06:35 Azhrak wrote:On July 20 2017 06:24 Musicus wrote:On July 20 2017 06:17 Azhrak wrote:MaNa is way more experienced, I would definitely put him above BlueCheese. There are some other interesting seedings within the groups as well: Group A: uThermal > ShoWTimE > Namshar > Elorye
Group F: Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus Pretty sure group F has Socke as the lowest Seed, not Optimus. http://homestorycup.com/bracket Check out the match-ups, it's Elazer vs Optimus and Bly vs Socke. So it's either Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus OR Bly > Elazer > Optimus > Socke. That is wrong on Liquipedias part. Elazer > Optimus > Bly > Socke Elazer vs Socke Optimus vs Bly
Good to hear but it is wrong in here too: http://www.homestorycup.com/schedule.
Will fix Liquipedia.
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On July 20 2017 17:32 Azhrak wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 17:06 TaKeTV wrote:On July 20 2017 06:35 Azhrak wrote:On July 20 2017 06:24 Musicus wrote:On July 20 2017 06:17 Azhrak wrote:MaNa is way more experienced, I would definitely put him above BlueCheese. There are some other interesting seedings within the groups as well: Group A: uThermal > ShoWTimE > Namshar > Elorye
Group F: Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus Pretty sure group F has Socke as the lowest Seed, not Optimus. http://homestorycup.com/bracket Check out the match-ups, it's Elazer vs Optimus and Bly vs Socke. So it's either Elazer > Bly > Socke > Optimus OR Bly > Elazer > Optimus > Socke. That is wrong on Liquipedias part. Elazer > Optimus > Bly > Socke Elazer vs Socke Optimus vs Bly Good to hear but it is wrong in here too: http://www.homestorycup.com/schedule. Will fix Liquipedia.
should be fixed soon
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