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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 10 2017 15:25 GMT
#201
herO and Dark will confront each other in gsl group F so it's understandable
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 10 2017 15:32 GMT
#202
I watched Inno vs alive and Maru vs classic now. Damn these games :D

Well i can see the argument that no match is a direct elimination match, but if that is actually the reasoning then players are fairly stupid. As i already stated, every match is important for the endstanding here. Also i wouldn't necessarily say that players don't cheese in GSL, remember Maru's GSL group last season? He went reaper every game

Personally i think any strat is legit though i really don't like watching gameplay like that. While it might not be completely random rock-paper-scissors it's still not fun to watch and play.

About that double proxy robo build, i saw avilo play that a while ago
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
July 10 2017 18:38 GMT
#203
Maru is pretty good yet he went down 0-2 to Classic? Whaaaa
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
July 10 2017 19:52 GMT
#204
On July 11 2017 03:38 geokilla wrote:
Maru is pretty good yet he went down 0-2 to Classic? Whaaaa


Classic has the best pvt in the world right now D:
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 10 2017 19:58 GMT
#205
On July 11 2017 00:16 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2017 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 10 2017 22:18 Fango wrote:
Is there something about SSL format that lends to cheese every game? We don't see this crap in GSL right? :D


Was it actually cheese every game?
I mean you basically have a week to come up with stuff, it is very similar to proleague though in proleague it was only a bo1.
There also is the fact that you cannot be out of the tournament by simply losing one match. Though players should also understand that every match still matters a lot, it definitely can be the difference between playoffs, simply staying in the league or even having to play in fast lane.

-herO vs Dark g1 was a failed cheese by Dark, failed adept allin in g2, and g3 was a quick gold by herO folllowed by adept allin

It was a blink all-in.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
July 10 2017 23:31 GMT
#206
On July 10 2017 23:46 DieuCure wrote:
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On July 10 2017 23:23 neutralrobot wrote:
I feel like today's games are a great example of what sometimes makes it hard to stay a fan of SC2... Approaching glorified rock-paper-scissors.


Not really, for example , INno vs aLive wasnt rock paper scissors even if it was cheesy

aLive game one went for RFE even if the kr meta is really 2 proxy rax, and the map is good for this build, so it was a huge greed

Game 2 he spotted it was a 3rax reapers allin, he had the hard counter, took 2 reapers / 3 on the first fight, and then, a really bad decision making to send his reaper.

It's more aLive greed than "rock paper scissors" which was expressed here


Well, it's true. I mean, watching those games I did genuinely think that INnoVation outplayed aLive, so I am exaggerating a little. Game 2 in particular probably shouldn't have been lost so easily, though I don't remember ever thinking he was in an advantageous spot. While there were things that aLive could have done that probably would have put him in a more advantageous early game position (scout earlier!), the proxy itself made it so that it was likely that early game build order would be the main deciding factor in the game. That's not 100% rock-paper-scissors, but in my book it's getting close, and while I enjoy a good exciting cheese at times, I found today's games pretty uninteresting as a spectator.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-10 23:43:12
July 10 2017 23:41 GMT
#207
On July 11 2017 00:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Well i can see the argument that no match is a direct elimination match, but if that is actually the reasoning then players are fairly stupid. As i already stated, every match is important for the endstanding here. Also i wouldn't necessarily say that players don't cheese in GSL, remember Maru's GSL group last season? He went reaper every game


You can do medicore in SSL, still get decent money, play till the end of the season, and then get into next season via fast lane. While in GSL you absolutely have to win every match. Maybe the players just take it less seriously, and try to get quick wins?

If TY didn't think SSL was worth entering, I'd imagine some players in it don't put a lot of time into it for similar reasons

Perhaps if WCS points were distributed better in SSL it would be different?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
July 11 2017 02:27 GMT
#208
Any recommended matches?
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VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
July 11 2017 17:50 GMT
#209
Oook so why are we saying 'memes' know? New fancy word for cheese?
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