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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 17 2017 12:56 GMT
#261
Nothing to do against this kind of micro, bane targetting, stutter steps and split all perfectly timed.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 17 2017 12:56 GMT
#262
ByuL finally where he belongs
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28476 Posts
April 17 2017 12:57 GMT
#263
On April 17 2017 21:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 21:55 Penev wrote:
outmicro'd

outmacro'd if anything, Solar had 1k minerals in the bank for most of the game

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 21:55 Poopi wrote:
On April 17 2017 21:44 Fango wrote:
It's 2017 and players still dont know that you shouldn't cheese when you're better in a macro game XD

? Maru is far better than Solar

Nah, not really.

let's agree on outplayed
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
April 17 2017 12:57 GMT
#264
Zest is best.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-17 12:59:01
April 17 2017 12:58 GMT
#265
On April 17 2017 21:55 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 21:44 Fango wrote:
It's 2017 and players still dont know that you shouldn't cheese when you're better in a macro game XD

? Maru is far better than Solar


Solar has destroyed him in macro games recently.

This just shows you can't go LBM vs Maru. You just can't
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-17 12:59:34
April 17 2017 12:58 GMT
#266
On April 17 2017 21:45 Ej_ wrote:
Overgrowth doesn't seem to be a great map for either 2fact cyclone or banshee builds so probably no mech.


To be fair, a slim map with fewer ways to run circles around your opponent is a better map for mech. If not on Overgrowth, where else?

Lets just be happy that Mech is so bad that we don't have to witness that miserable comp in Korea.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4937 Posts
April 17 2017 12:59 GMT
#267
Maru R E K T Solar
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28476 Posts
April 17 2017 13:00 GMT
#268
Zest is last

ouch
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
April 17 2017 13:02 GMT
#269
As a Jin Air fan boy, I am really sad seeing sOs and Maru being so low in the SSL ranking. But then, I imagine the feelings of Zest's fan boys.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 17 2017 13:11 GMT
#270
On April 17 2017 21:58 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 21:45 Ej_ wrote:
Overgrowth doesn't seem to be a great map for either 2fact cyclone or banshee builds so probably no mech.


To be fair, a slim map with fewer ways to run circles around your opponent is a better map for mech. If not on Overgrowth, where else?

Lets just be happy that Mech is so bad that we don't have to witness that miserable comp in Korea.

Any map with a lot of air space around bases and a 3rd that doesn't connect to nat with 1 creep tumor
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12873 Posts
April 17 2017 13:27 GMT
#271
On April 17 2017 21:58 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 21:55 Poopi wrote:
On April 17 2017 21:44 Fango wrote:
It's 2017 and players still dont know that you shouldn't cheese when you're better in a macro game XD

? Maru is far better than Solar


Solar has destroyed him in macro games recently.

This just shows you can't go LBM vs Maru. You just can't

Well iirc it was on the horrible mappool from GSL ST so it doesn't really count, it's not suited for LotV.
I perfectly remember Solar sending his 15 corruptors repeatedly against liberator harass from aLive on Whirlwind, so it is enough to assess Maru as better :D.
WriterMaru
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 17 2017 14:33 GMT
#272
The standings atm are very interesting. 4 matches remain for every player, it's getting important now. If Patience actually makes top 4 at the end
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 17 2017 14:41 GMT
#273
Is it even possible for Zest to not get eliminated?
kiss kiss fall in love
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 17 2017 14:45 GMT
#274
On April 17 2017 23:41 intotheheart wrote:
Is it even possible for Zest to not get eliminated?

Unless everyone starts losing and he somehow gets 1 or 2 win I don't think so
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 17 2017 14:49 GMT
#275
I mean technically he can still win 4 matches. But yeah realistically it will be tough :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-17 14:55:00
April 17 2017 14:52 GMT
#276
With 4 rounds left, the exact combinations are still a little too much to casually work out. But Zest can still win 4 games. There are 45 wins available that have to be distributed among the players - some configurations are outright impossible (more than one player with 9 or 0 are obvious examples) but I think something like 8 8 7 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 should be technically possible, no? So 4 wins would still net you 4th place. But it can be already excluded by the combination of games already played of course.

Edit: if Die4ever was still around, we could make him do a calculation on this
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 17 2017 14:59 GMT
#277
Let's just say the odds are against him :>
I hope he at least makes top 8 though (to at least have a chance to be in next premier).

Other than that, it's interesting that Maru, Stats and Dark are all at 2-3 atm.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
April 17 2017 15:11 GMT
#278
Any recommended games?
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
April 17 2017 15:58 GMT
#279
On April 18 2017 00:11 seopthi wrote:
Any recommended games?


Game 2 of Maru vs Solar was a nice display of what Maru can do.

Game 2 of sOs vs aLive was probably the best game of the day.

Game 2 of Inno vs Patience is watchable.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12873 Posts
April 17 2017 16:21 GMT
#280
On April 18 2017 00:58 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2017 00:11 seopthi wrote:
Any recommended games?


Game 2 of Maru vs Solar was a nice display of what Maru can do.

Game 2 of sOs vs aLive was probably the best game of the day.

Game 2 of Inno vs Patience is watchable.

Yeah it's really sad because Maru shows glimpses of champion caliber play but on LotV he ultimately disappoints.
Could have been something else if he won WESG.
WriterMaru
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