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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 10 2016 09:56 GMT
#721
On September 10 2016 18:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:54 JabuSeika wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Major wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Poopi wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Major wrote:
the quality of this games are awfu

I dunno watching perfect terrans is still cool even tho sOs is playing bad

that wasnt perfect at all he was floating almost 2k and he forgot combat shield if sos ataked before 2-2 and no combat he woulda just died. cuz again he was floating 2k


He was floating because he was outmicroing sOs at all turns.

He could have done that without floating that much money.


What would Peak Maru do?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 10 2016 09:56 GMT
#722
On September 10 2016 18:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:53 Elentos wrote:
The two things that give ByuN power:
[image loading]


coincidentally this reminds me of sOs vs INnoVation Season 1 finals.

eh ByuN is weak sauce, dropped a map


That version of Innovation is the peak of standard Terran.

The peak of sc2
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 10 2016 09:57 GMT
#723
On September 10 2016 18:56 Ej_ wrote:
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On September 10 2016 18:54 JoeCool wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:52 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:52 xenonn40 wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Thrillz wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:47 Noonius wrote:
why aren't we seeing a lackluster final like we usually do? Terran is in the final, that's why


Best GSL still Jjakji v Leenock


MMA vs DRG was insane too, but it wasn't a normal GSL. Best finals back to back.

Life vs Mvp and Life vs PartinG were good series too


Life vs sOs at WCS Finals '15 was amazing too.

i thought that series was pretty bad tbh, build order wins + 1 good game on D&T

Not when you're playing against life. Remeber that Classic lost to what people would normally consider a BO loss
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
September 10 2016 09:57 GMT
#724
On September 10 2016 18:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:46 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:45 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:43 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:42 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:40 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:
[quote]
they should have blink tbh

and a headbutt ability

Colossi should have burrow and burrow move. While burrowed, anti air can't hit them.

And a headbutt ability.

they should have a permanent cloak

and a headbutt ability

And psi storm.

And a headbutt ability.

They should be able to spawn BL/Infestor

And a headbutt ability

They should be able to fly.

And a diving headbutt ability.

and be able to dive underground

and have a tiger uppercut headbutt ability

And be warped in.

And have a falcon punch headbutt ability.

and be able to duplicate itself

to perform the sandwich headbutt ability

It should also be able to grow to 50 times it size so that regular attacks don't bother it.

And so it can perform a world destroying headbutt ability.


And have vortex,

so it can create a headbutt toilet.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
September 10 2016 09:57 GMT
#725
On September 10 2016 18:56 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:54 JoeCool wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:52 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:52 xenonn40 wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Thrillz wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:47 Noonius wrote:
why aren't we seeing a lackluster final like we usually do? Terran is in the final, that's why


Best GSL still Jjakji v Leenock


MMA vs DRG was insane too, but it wasn't a normal GSL. Best finals back to back.

Life vs Mvp and Life vs PartinG were good series too


Life vs sOs at WCS Finals '15 was amazing too.

i thought that series was pretty bad tbh, build order wins + 1 good game on D&T

It was super hype but the games weren't all that great, except that Tempest game, I agree.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[BSP]Kain
Profile Joined May 2014
119 Posts
September 10 2016 09:57 GMT
#726
On September 10 2016 18:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
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On September 10 2016 18:41 Noonius wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:41 LongShot27 wrote:
That Russian grill tho


I should go to Russia.... Wait a minute, what am I talking about. I should go outside


In Estonia, Russia will come to you


Best. Post. Ever.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 09:58:06
September 10 2016 09:57 GMT
#727
On September 10 2016 18:56 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:55 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:46 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:45 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:43 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:42 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:40 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
Colossi should have burrow and burrow move. While burrowed, anti air can't hit them.

And a headbutt ability.

they should have a permanent cloak

and a headbutt ability

And psi storm.

And a headbutt ability.

They should be able to spawn BL/Infestor

And a headbutt ability

They should be able to fly.

And a diving headbutt ability.

and be able to dive underground

and have a tiger uppercut headbutt ability

And be warped in.

And have a falcon punch headbutt ability.

and be able to duplicate itself

to perform the sandwich headbutt ability

It should also be able to grow to 50 times it size so that regular attacks don't bother it.

And so it can perform a world destroying headbutt ability.

the end

before it gets op

Community update

'We've read a lot of calls for a colossus headbutt abilty and we agree'
Neosteel Enthusiast
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 10 2016 09:57 GMT
#728
On September 10 2016 18:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:56 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 JabuSeika wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Major wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Poopi wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Major wrote:
the quality of this games are awfu

I dunno watching perfect terrans is still cool even tho sOs is playing bad

that wasnt perfect at all he was floating almost 2k and he forgot combat shield if sos ataked before 2-2 and no combat he woulda just died. cuz again he was floating 2k


He was floating because he was outmicroing sOs at all turns.

He could have done that without floating that much money.


What would Peak Maru do?


he wouldn't even get to that point because 2 rax all day every day

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
September 10 2016 09:58 GMT
#729
On September 10 2016 18:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:56 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 JabuSeika wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Major wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Poopi wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Major wrote:
the quality of this games are awfu

I dunno watching perfect terrans is still cool even tho sOs is playing bad

that wasnt perfect at all he was floating almost 2k and he forgot combat shield if sos ataked before 2-2 and no combat he woulda just died. cuz again he was floating 2k


He was floating because he was outmicroing sOs at all turns.

He could have done that without floating that much money.


What would Peak Maru do?

Drop manner mules?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 10 2016 09:58 GMT
#730
Anyway I'd characterize ByuN's micro in g2 as very good. I save Godly for otherworldy feats.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 09:58:46
September 10 2016 09:58 GMT
#731
On September 10 2016 18:56 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:55 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:46 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:45 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:43 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:42 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:40 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
Colossi should have burrow and burrow move. While burrowed, anti air can't hit them.

And a headbutt ability.

they should have a permanent cloak

and a headbutt ability

And psi storm.

And a headbutt ability.

They should be able to spawn BL/Infestor

And a headbutt ability

They should be able to fly.

And a diving headbutt ability.

and be able to dive underground

and have a tiger uppercut headbutt ability

And be warped in.

And have a falcon punch headbutt ability.

and be able to duplicate itself

to perform the sandwich headbutt ability

It should also be able to grow to 50 times it size so that regular attacks don't bother it.

And so it can perform a world destroying headbutt ability.

the end

before it gets op

They should be able to spawn BL/Infestor is my favourite

And a headbutt ability.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 10 2016 09:58 GMT
#732
On September 10 2016 18:56 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:56 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:53 Elentos wrote:
The two things that give ByuN power:
[image loading]


coincidentally this reminds me of sOs vs INnoVation Season 1 finals.

eh ByuN is weak sauce, dropped a map


That version of Innovation is the peak of standard Terran.

The peak of sc2


You think I don't know this is a subtle praise of DRG instead of Inno?
Moderator
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2016 09:58 GMT
#733
On September 10 2016 18:58 stuchiu wrote:
Anyway I'd characterize ByuN's micro in g2 as very good. I save Godly for otherworldy feats.

like bodyblocking around your hatchery so DTs can't kill it
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
September 10 2016 09:58 GMT
#734
On September 10 2016 18:56 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:56 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:53 Elentos wrote:
The two things that give ByuN power:
[image loading]


coincidentally this reminds me of sOs vs INnoVation Season 1 finals.

eh ByuN is weak sauce, dropped a map


That version of Innovation is the peak of standard Terran.

The peak of sc2


Peak Innovation is still the most dominant player that we've seen in the history of SC2, those several months were insane.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12992 Posts
September 10 2016 09:58 GMT
#735
On September 10 2016 18:56 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:54 JabuSeika wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Major wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Poopi wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Major wrote:
the quality of this games are awfu

I dunno watching perfect terrans is still cool even tho sOs is playing bad

that wasnt perfect at all he was floating almost 2k and he forgot combat shield if sos ataked before 2-2 and no combat he woulda just died. cuz again he was floating 2k


He was floating because he was outmicroing sOs at all turns.

Lol, come on dude there's been more impressive displays than this

I dunno, everytime I watch GSL protosses they seem super bad, but they always manage to play even worse. I thought Dear was the worse but this sOs adepts multi-pronged into everything dies was amazing XD.
WriterMaru
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 10 2016 09:59 GMT
#736
On September 10 2016 18:58 stuchiu wrote:
Anyway I'd characterize ByuN's micro in g2 as very good. I save Godly for otherworldy feats.


I don't think Otherworld even watches SC2 nowadays, no to mention playing it
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
TOMisAfish
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia123 Posts
September 10 2016 09:59 GMT
#737
I'm happy ByuN is playing well :D :D :D. A bit surprised at some of the mistakes sOs is making, but if anyone can figure out some way to come back it's sOs. He no doubt has some tricks left for the series!
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3698 Posts
September 10 2016 09:59 GMT
#738
Soulkey!
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
September 10 2016 09:59 GMT
#739
On September 10 2016 18:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:56 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:55 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:48 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:46 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:45 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:43 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:42 Penev wrote:
[quote]
they should have a permanent cloak

and a headbutt ability

And psi storm.

And a headbutt ability.

They should be able to spawn BL/Infestor

And a headbutt ability

They should be able to fly.

And a diving headbutt ability.

and be able to dive underground

and have a tiger uppercut headbutt ability

And be warped in.

And have a falcon punch headbutt ability.

and be able to duplicate itself

to perform the sandwich headbutt ability

It should also be able to grow to 50 times it size so that regular attacks don't bother it.

And so it can perform a world destroying headbutt ability.

the end

before it gets op

Community update

'We've read a lot of calls for a colossus headbutt abilty and we agree'

everyone agrees on the headbutt ability
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
September 10 2016 09:59 GMT
#740
On September 10 2016 18:58 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 18:56 bo1b wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:56 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:54 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2016 18:53 Elentos wrote:
The two things that give ByuN power:
[image loading]


coincidentally this reminds me of sOs vs INnoVation Season 1 finals.

eh ByuN is weak sauce, dropped a map


That version of Innovation is the peak of standard Terran.

The peak of sc2


You think I don't know this is a subtle praise of DRG instead of Inno?

Curious is GOAT.
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